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pencil-skirt
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posted 13 January 2007 12:08 PM      Profile for pencil-skirt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ok, I know this isn't exactly "international news" in the traditional Kofi Annan sense, but I couldn't believe it when I read this!

This story discusses how the giant rabbits grown by an east German pensioner are now being sold to North Korea so they can breed more food for their citizens to eat.

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Each of Karl's 'German Grey Monsters' weigh about 7kg and can be used to feed 8 people. He was delighted to help the North Koreans, that he gave the North Koreans a special price, €80 per rabbit instead of the usual €200 to €250.

He said that "They'll be used to help feed the population" and was happy to help solve the food shortage crisis in North Korea. He has sent 12 rabbits to Korea so far and they are being kept in a petting zoo for now. Karl will be personally going to North Korea to help advise and set up the breeding farm for his giant rabbits at April this year. He has already given a book of tips to help for now. If everything goes well the 12 rabbits sent will be able to produce 60 babies in a year.



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Nanuq
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posted 13 January 2007 12:14 PM      Profile for Nanuq   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm pretty sure this is just an urban legend. As if the US would ever let giant rabbits fall into the hands of the North Koreans!
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posted 13 January 2007 12:20 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is just a pretext for future invasion to rid the world of RMC (Rabbits of Mass Consumption).
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M. Spector
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posted 13 January 2007 12:21 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Nanuq:
I'm pretty sure this is just an urban legend.
The existence of these giant rabbits is not an urban legend.

What I find odd is that ordinary-sized rabbits are not hard to breed, and their flesh is probably at least as tasty as their giant cousins'. So why the big deal about using giant rabbits for food?


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pencil-skirt
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posted 13 January 2007 12:28 PM      Profile for pencil-skirt     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hm maybe some animal husbandry experts have determined you get more meat compared to the food you feed these crazy creatures.

In the article it mentions the North Koreans might not have the amounts of fresh vegetables the rabbits are used to in Germany (e.g. carrots). I wonder if this might not be a perfect example of when a vegetarian diet might not be a better use of scarce resources. It seems sad that fresh vegetables might go to these huge rabbits rather than to the North Korean people.


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M. Spector
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posted 13 January 2007 12:38 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Except that rabbits don't need to eat the same vegetables as humans do. They can eat the less desirable stuff like dandelions and pea-pod shells.
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BetterRed
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posted 13 January 2007 04:29 PM      Profile for BetterRed     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's right, M Spector. I lived in a village for a while and I know rabbits will eat almost any plant. Just like chickens, they dont require much.

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It seems sad that fresh vegetables might go to these huge rabbits rather than to the North Korean people.

This is kinda funny. Does anyone know about the Asian custom of giving white elephants as presents?

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Briguy
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posted 15 January 2007 05:20 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I can see this turning into a "Planet of the Rabbits" scenario over the next 50 years. Buyer beware!
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posted 15 January 2007 01:16 PM      Profile for Southlander     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The photo is taken with a big zoom, the guy's hand is bigger than his face. But yes, it is a big rabbit.
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posted 15 January 2007 01:27 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm eating a rabbit stew - not particularly good, used too many spices.
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Brian White
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posted 15 January 2007 01:42 PM      Profile for Brian White   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We used to eat rabbits, hares and pidgeons when we grew up.
Hares are not rabbits! Hares are probably a bit more like deer meat.
A chineese guy I worked with came from brunei and he said lizards and snakes were nice to eat.

(These would be better converters of energy because they are cold blooded but I think they eat meat to start with so they are higher on the food chain).
And different people might look at a chow dog or a guinea pig quite differently than you do.
I am pretty sure the north koreans are fairly in tune with what is available there.
Rabbits generally eat grass. You guys watch too much bugs bunny! When I was growing up, the farmers journal said that 5 rabbits eat as much grass as one sheep!
A big problem with rabbits is they stay near the burrow and their pee kills grass.
So they might not be of any use at all.
If the giant is a hare, thats a different matter. Hares dont have burrows.
Who knows, perhaps religion or comunist decree also dictates what people eat there. It is just another gee whizz news article.


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posted 15 January 2007 02:36 PM      Profile for Farmpunk     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"Just like chickens, they dont require much."

Chickens need a varied diet. Chickens will eat about 20% of their diet in grass and forage. The rest needs to be made up somehow.

Here's an organic rabbit link: http://www.nor.com.au/community/organic/library/farmplan/rabbits.htm.
From the same link:
"Some of the plants we feed to our rabbits (other than the normal vegetables from the garden and orchard) are: leaves and small branches from pigeon pea, leauceana, mulberry, fruit trees, paulownia, pineapple sage, arrowroot, nasturtium, sweet potato, lab-lab, tomatoe leaves and chokoes. Other plants include weeds such as milk thistle, glossy nightshade, farmer's friends and dock (before flowering). They also love kikuyu and a variety of garden flowers. Some medicinal herbs they also like are tansy, wormwood, dandelion and garlic chives. Other feeds that are bought and used sparingly (to reduce costs and unknown chemical uptake) if I'm late home and have to feed in the dark are lucerne and mixed grains (not dried corn). Provided rabbits are not starved they will let you know their likes and dislikes, so don't be afraid to experiment. If your property is certified organic you will need to check feeding requirements with your certification organisation."

Domestic rabitt tastes a lot different than wild cottontails. Jackrabitts, a hare, again taste different.

As I understand it, raising rabitts for food necessitates confinement, a la a rabbit house.


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M. Spector
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posted 15 January 2007 04:29 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My favourite are the chocolate kind.
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posted 15 January 2007 04:45 PM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

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Fidel
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posted 15 January 2007 05:41 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There were 10.5 million children under five who died of the economic long run around the democratic capitalist third world last year. That's almost half North Korea's population disappearing every year in child mortality alone.
Send the rabbit stew to Indja, or deliver it to an estimated 35 million Americans experiencing food insecurity.

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Abdul_Maria
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posted 15 January 2007 06:53 PM      Profile for Abdul_Maria     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
did any of you see Michael Moore's movie "Roger & Me" where he interviews the Rabbit Lady, who is raising rabbits to make ends meet in Michigan, Flint Michigan i think.

it is quite graphic, she shows her entire technique, including bonking the rabbit on the head, skinning it, etc.

the original farmer seems like he likes the rabbits, so i'm hoping he guides them towards a cruelty free or minimally cruel farm.


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