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Frustrated Mess
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posted 31 January 2007 11:48 AM      Profile for Frustrated Mess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Copies of handwritten notes by Vice President Dick Cheney, introduced at trial by defense attorneys for former White House staffer I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, would appear to implicate George W. Bush in the Plame CIA Leak case.

Bush has long maintained that he was unaware of attacks by any member of his administration against [former ambassador Joseph] Wilson. The ex-envoy's stinging rebukes of the administration's use of pre-war Iraq intelligence led Libby and other White House officials to leak Wilson's wife's covert CIA status to reporters in July 2003 in an act of retaliation.

But Cheney's notes, which were introduced into evidence Tuesday during Libby's perjury and obstruction-of-justice trial, call into question the truthfulness of President Bush's vehement denials about his prior knowledge of the attacks against Wilson. The revelation that Bush may have known all along that there was an effort by members of his office to discredit the former ambassador begs the question: Was the president also aware that senior members of his administration compromised Valerie Plame's undercover role with the CIA?


http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/013107Z.shtml


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jeff house
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posted 31 January 2007 12:45 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Cheney memo is handwritten, and includes the words "this Pres."

Then, the words are crossed out.

So, we have a document in which Cheney's memo might have implicated the President, except for the fact that he crossed that out, and wrote it in the passive voice, so no subject is asserted.

If Cheney ever testified, he will say:

First, I wrote the words "this Pres.", but I immediately changed it because it was wrong.

So, I don't think it's exactly a smoking gun. If he hadn't crossed it out, it might have been.


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remind
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posted 31 January 2007 01:11 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But this proves that Cheney knew, surely if the VP knew something the President would know? It simply is NOT possible that a VP should know more than the President.

ETA: After rereading I found this:

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Further, the highly explicit nature of Cheney's comments not only hints at a rift between Cheney and Bush over what Cheney felt was the scapegoating of Libby, but also raises serious questions about potentially criminal actions by Bush. If Bush did indeed play an active role in encouraging Libby to take the fall to protect Karl Rove, as Libby's lawyers articulated in their opening statements, then that could be viewed as criminal involvement by Bush.

If they had a rift over it, as explicitely stated by Cheney's notes, how could Bush NOT know?

[ 31 January 2007: Message edited by: remind ]


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quelar
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posted 01 February 2007 07:16 AM      Profile for quelar     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by remind:
It simply is NOT possible that a VP should know more than the President.

But with this president he was probably playing with some lego's at his desk while Dick had the meeting... I agree though, it really helps to implicate the administration at least. Time to impeach.


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posted 01 February 2007 01:04 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by quelar:
But with this president he was probably playing with some lego's at his desk while Dick had the meeting...

Rosie, made a huge jab at George this am on the View. Elizabeth? (do not watch often, but think that is the younger womans name) was trying to make a point about what George would say, on a particular subject, and Rosie said: "he would not be able to conjugate the verbs so....."


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Abdul_Maria
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posted 01 February 2007 01:28 PM      Profile for Abdul_Maria     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rosie O'Donnell for President ?
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