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Michelle
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posted 16 May 2008 03:33 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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How do I deal with a regular contributor to an online forum who has a great deal of difficulty expressing themselves? I would guess by their spelling and grammar that English (the language of the forum) isn't their first language. Their postings are usually brief, but sometimes they make long statements that frankly don't make much sense. Requests for clarification usually go unanswered so I'm at a loss as to how to keep this person engaged in the forum. What can I do?

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oldgoat
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posted 16 May 2008 05:55 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As usual, a wise and useful answer. I work every day with people for whom English may be a second, or often a third or fourth language. As I deal face to face, I can question for understanding, rephrase, and after a while I can get a better ear for the cadence and idiom of the speaker. It's different on an internet forum, as you can only deal with what the person puts out there.

There are of course other barriers to communication. There was a regular babbler a number of years ago who seemed to have an eccentric way of expressing himself, but later shared that he was using assistive devices on his computer to communicate. Once you got used to it, you almost stopped noticing.

As ms. communicate says, patience and a little positive reaching out, and really hone your attentive skills.


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N.Beltov
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posted 16 May 2008 06:23 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've got a family member who belongs to what I shall call the "language Gestapo". It's very annoying and the result often is that even the subject of discussion gets lost.

Which is, I suspect, the general idea. Some Beltovs like to overturn the apple-cart, for the fun of it, a little too much. It may be hard to believe, but I'm the sensible one.

I actually get compliments on my English from people whose mother tongue isn't English. Many people who are learning English have an interested attitude towards the language and are, often, more respectful of the language than a native speaker. There's a great little exchange in the Henry Fonda version of Twelve Angry Men in which a recent immigrant corrects the English of a native speaker. Politeness probably prevents this from happening more often.

It's not just online forums where one can make a difference, and put others at ease, with a little effort. And there are benefits too; sometimes one gets asked those questions that aren't asked of anyone else and you one gets to know someone much better because of it.

[ 16 May 2008: Message edited by: N.Beltov ]


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Boom Boom
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posted 16 May 2008 06:28 AM      Profile for Boom Boom     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Heh. I guess I'm one of those 'language Gestapo' types, stemming from growing up as a proofreader and editor for my dad's books and articles. That was a long time ago, I'm not up to speed on a lot of new words, haven't kept up with language and grammar trends, and I generally don't make spelling flames online (although I'm sorely tempted, occasionally).
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oldgoat
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posted 16 May 2008 06:46 AM      Profile for oldgoat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guess I used to be a bit of a language snob, but I made a conscious effort to cease and desist. One of the things that helped is that my keyboarding can be pretty sloppy when I'm in a hurry and my spelling is not particularly strong. So on the internet, I can look a bit foolish being critical of others.
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Caissa
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posted 16 May 2008 06:50 AM      Profile for Caissa     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Language is all we have to communciate online and thus there is probably more conflict because we do not have the mediating aspects of vocal and verbal cues.
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