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Cougyr
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posted 11 April 2005 09:51 AM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
While shopping for a car, I noticed that one had a $30,000 Canadian price and a $20,000 US price. Working out the exchange to roughly $26000 Cdn, who gets the extra $4000? It was a Japanese car, so I can't see why the difference. Is this common on all cars? (I don't think it's a one-off, which is why I haven't named it.) Who is screwing us?
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No Yards
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posted 11 April 2005 11:15 AM      Profile for No Yards   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not getting the same results in my few attempts.

I used MSN new car pricing for US MSRP info and Yahoo for Canadan MSRP info.

Seems like the USians are being over charged for the ones I tried (Saturn and Toyota ... Honda civic was about $100 more for Canadians, but I couldn't confimr the options.)


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arborman
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posted 11 April 2005 12:39 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Looks like you might have found yourself a deal (inasmuch as paying a year's take home salary for a polluting box that you have to keep pouring money into can be considered a deal).

When I shopped around for a bike, I found one for $65, and one for $60. I bought the one for $60, and damn the consequences.


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Sourapple
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posted 28 April 2005 12:12 AM      Profile for Sourapple        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by arborman:
Looks like you might have found yourself a deal (inasmuch as paying a year's take home salary for a polluting box that you have to keep pouring money into can be considered a deal).

When I shopped around for a bike, I found one for $65, and one for $60. I bought the one for $60, and damn the consequences.


Great can I fit my family on it, I travel to seattle and calgary to see friends and family how is it with lets say 2 kids me and the wife on long hauls. I suppose a bike is great if that is all you can afford


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posted 28 April 2005 12:20 AM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
...how is it with lets say 2 kids me and the wife on long hauls. I suppose a bike is great if that is all you can afford....

Here's a question for you, Sourapple. How come every American (even those from Seattle) sounds like a half-wit? Are you people endemically stupid, or do you just work really hard at it?


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posted 28 April 2005 02:00 AM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
While shopping for a car, I noticed that one had a $30,000 Canadian price and a $20,000 US price. Working out the exchange to roughly $26000 Cdn, who gets the extra $4000? It was a Japanese car, so I can't see why the difference. Is this common on all cars? (I don't think it's a one-off, which is why I haven't named it.) Who is screwing us?

Prices go up and down depending on the product on both sides of the border...sometimes they're cheaper here and sometimes cheaper south of the border.

I recall one time getting a call from a software company...the call was from the U.S. and they were offerring me a cheaper price in Canada then they were selling for in the U.S.

I asked why I was getting a cheaper price and the guy just said it just was the nature of the Canadian software market. Canadians just weren't willing to pay the prices Americans would pay.

I was looking at a piece of electronic equipment before Christmas and the price was much cheaper in the U.S. After Christmas it was much cheaper in Canada. Only thing I can think of is that the Canadian dealers finally cleared out the old stock that they'd bought when the dollar was low.

So I don't get all bent out of shape at occasional lower prices south of the border.


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Sourapple
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posted 28 April 2005 06:50 PM      Profile for Sourapple        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hinterland:

Here's a question for you, Sourapple. How come every American (even those from Seattle) sounds like a half-wit? Are you people endemically stupid, or do you just work really hard at it?



I'm an American ????? Where did I say that??? Learn to read........I have a sister whos a Nurse that lives in Seattle for work purposes they're there on H class visa I think so even they are not really american though I do have cousins who I really don't know who are americans....more from my Moms side who is from Japan. As for All or each and every American being stupid. What does your use of generalizations say about you as a person I wonder? and what was the purpose of this post???? to hurt my feelings.........grow up


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posted 28 April 2005 06:52 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wasn't accusing you of being an American. I just thought you might have an answer to that question.
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posted 28 April 2005 06:54 PM      Profile for Melsky   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hinterland:

Here's a question for you, Sourapple. How come every American (even those from Seattle) sounds like a half-wit? Are you people endemically stupid, or do you just work really hard at it?


I'm very sad that you wrote this.


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posted 28 April 2005 06:55 PM      Profile for Hinterland        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I know; it's insulting. But I can't help it. America is the problem, and I've gotten tired of being polite about it.

However, my comment was intolerant and off-topic, and I apologise to any American who thought I was insulting him or her personally.

[ 28 April 2005: Message edited by: Hinterland ]


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posted 28 April 2005 07:15 PM      Profile for Sourapple        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hinterland:
I know; it's insulting. But I can't help it. America is the problem, and I've gotten tired of being polite about it.

Generalizations just really bother me and too many people use them in this world and especially in politics both Left and Right. I don't consider it insulting to be called an American ...there is many great Americans and bad ones...Just like here in Canada ...There is a lot of really dumb canadians and smart ones. I really don't see one people being better than another. As for accents go back east to the maritimes or even the praires..or even Australia and ask a Aussie to say "See you later" all you will hear I swear what sounds like Slatter, but said really fast.


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posted 28 April 2005 07:17 PM      Profile for Sourapple        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Hinterland:
I know; it's insulting. But I can't help it. America is the problem, and I've gotten tired of being polite about it.

However, my comment was intolerant and off-topic, and I apologise to any American who thought I was insulting him or her personally.

[ 28 April 2005: Message edited by: Hinterland ]


Sorry for any Sarcasm on my part


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posted 28 April 2005 07:19 PM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Back to the topic. SWMBO and I noticed the same thing at our local Toyota dealership, only the difference was that interest rates varied from model to model. We were given to understand that for internal accounting reasons, cars built in Japan and cars built in Cambridge were treated differently by Toyota, so the interest rates were different.

The same sort of thing may be going on here.


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posted 29 April 2005 07:56 PM      Profile for Sourapple        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Stephen Gordon:
Back to the topic. SWMBO and I noticed the same thing at our local Toyota dealership, only the difference was that interest rates varied from model to model. We were given to understand that for internal accounting reasons, cars built in Japan and cars built in Cambridge were treated differently by Toyota, so the interest rates were different.

The same sort of thing may be going on here.


Just out of curiousity exactly who did the interest rates favour the japanese built cars or Cambridge?


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Stephen Gordon
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posted 29 April 2005 08:07 PM      Profile for Stephen Gordon        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
IIRC, the made-in-Japan Echo had the lower interest rate than the made-in-Ontario Matrix. We chose the Matrix anyway.
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James
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posted 29 April 2005 10:12 PM      Profile for James        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Less than two years ago, the manufacturers were on a tear about cracking down on Windsor dealerships that were seling to Americans at Canadian prices and terms. At the time, prices were much more favourable here. Not many years before that, it was the other way. And I've recently heard that Canadians are getting better bargains "across the river".

Methinks it all comes down to corporate marketing strategey.


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posted 30 April 2005 05:08 AM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Sourapple:

Great can I fit my family on it, I travel to seattle and calgary to see friends and family how is it with lets say 2 kids me and the wife on long hauls. I suppose a bike is great if that is all you can afford


What an incredibly stupid thing to say.

Whenever we want to go any long distances we rent a nice car, have no worries about maintenance or anything else.

I figure I save about $5K/yr by not being as stupid as you appear to be when you make ignorant and deliberately insulting statements like that.


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Sourapple
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posted 05 May 2005 04:26 PM      Profile for Sourapple        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by arborman:
[QB]

What an incredibly stupid thing to say.

Whenever we want to go any long distances we rent a nice car, have no worries about maintenance or anything else.

I figure I save about $5K/yr by not being as stupid as you appear to be when you make ignorant and deliberately insulting statements"

Well I admitt many people can't afford vehicles..that is fine. People have different levels of income. I'm not rich but that extra $5000 a year is not a issue for me...As for renting and maintenance well I don't plan on holdingon to my current vehicle for for more than 2-3 years and the particular vehicle I have has a high re-sale value. BTW and no I'm not rich either. I still have a mortage still go on family vacation once a year plus trips towhistler, and to visit family. I own a vehicle and I'm sorry that gets you angry but too bad. The convience a vehicle brings to me whether personal or work is well worth the cost. I don't like bikes other than motor..infact I hate bike riding. I like to board and go hiking, but biking is something I do not enjoy.


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posted 05 May 2005 05:56 PM      Profile for ronb     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I'm not rich but that extra $5000 a year is not a issue for me.

Dude. You're rich.


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Thee sticker price of cars today is lower than it's ever been in adjusted dollars. What's 15 thousand for a small compact car in todays's labor market? A couple months salary in construction or less than that for a roughneck in the oil patch. Not only that but most come with a decent 5 year warranty.

Way back when I was a young lad cars were 25% cheaper in the USA. All types of schemes developed to bring them across the border. Cars were a major purchase that you had to sell your soul to own. Today folks just accept that a new vehicle is part of the lifestyle. Steering wheel in one hand and cell phone in the other.


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posted 05 May 2005 07:08 PM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Sourapple:

Well I admitt many people can't afford vehicles..that is fine. People have different levels of income.


You misunderstand. I can afford a vehicle just fine, but choose not to because I refuse to play into the sucker game that is vehicle ownership.

Buying a new one every three years? Pouring thousands of dollars into insurance, gas and new cars is stupid. Nevermind affording it, I can afford it just fine. I'm just not a fool.


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Untill the dollar jumped up a while ago a friend of mine had a good business buying used vehicles in Canada and selling them in the US.
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