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maestro
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posted 22 November 2005 07:48 PM
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Too much of Windows seems to have been designed around closed systems which aren't exposed to the Web.
I think this is really a problem of the web, not Windows. The internet was designed to be operated in the closed environment of military communications. As such, I don't think anyone imagined what it would become. Perhaps if they had imagined it, they would have taken steps to design some security into the overall protocol. They didn't, and we're stuck with it. The only security that exists is that lesser used programs don't attract the attention of hackers. They'd much rather play where they have more effect. I've often wondered at how we've allowed such a leaky vessel (the internet) to take such an important role in all facets of the industrial society. I've also often wondered whether the lasts big blackout was caused by a hacker. I admit it's not likely, but it is certainly possible, which leads me to wonder what other systems are vulnerable to hacking.
From: Vancouver | Registered: Jan 2005
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No Yards
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posted 22 November 2005 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by maestro:
I think this is really a problem of the web, not Windows.
Issues with connection hijacking, spying on communications, denial of service attacks might be an Internet issue, but viruses, spyware, trojans, remote control, type issues are all OS and applications problems ... the Internet is just the delivery system, just as the floppy disk was the main delivery system in the early 90's . . . the Internet made the delivery more efficient, and admittedly the Internet does have a few security issues of its own, but the vast majority of the security issues have nothing directly to do with the Internet, and just as easily could be accomplished using floppy disks, CDs, or DVDs.
From: Defending traditional marriage since June 28, 2005 | Registered: Jun 2003
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radiorahim
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posted 22 November 2005 11:08 PM
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They didn't, and we're stuck with it. The only security that exists is that lesser used programs don't attract the attention of hackers. They'd much rather play where they have more effect.
Well then look at open source Apache Server vs. Microsoft IIS. The figure I hear thrown around is that about +/- 70% of the world's web servers run Apache...usually on Unix or Linux, but Apache can be run on Windows as well. Microsoft IIS has +/- 20% of the world's web servers...and it only runs on Windows Servers. So when it comes to serving up web pages, Microsoft isn't the dominant player...open source is. Yet IIS has had alot more vulnerabilities of the "severe" type than Apache has. I understand that IIS 6.0 has gotten alot better than IIS 5.0. However IIS 5.0 is much more commonly deployed at this point than IIS 6.0...and IIS 6.0 only runs on Windows Server 2003...requiring a costly upgrade by organizations. Apache on the other hand is free. So I don't buy the argument that hackers don't go after open source software because few folks are using it. MS takes the approach of complete system integration so that they can lock you into their system...and then they can extract cash from you for licensing fees. The open source approach is more modular...if you break one thing, you haven't necessarily broken everything...and there are no licensing fees to worry about if you want to deploy another computer. Anyway, MS is finally starting to have to compete in the marketplace. Isn't that what the capitalists are always telling us that capitalism is about? The desktop computer is the thing that MS has a stranglehold on...but I think they're on a downward slide there too.
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