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Bacchus
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posted 30 July 2007 09:56 AM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CNN says "unequal justice"

Anyone notice the different economic and racial component to the 2 fathers?


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Michelle
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posted 30 July 2007 10:06 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's for sure. Not surprising in the least.
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pookie
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posted 30 July 2007 10:13 AM      Profile for pookie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, ok, but another big difference is that the father who was actually prosecuted consciously left his daughter in the car, which he had done on previous occasions, but got caught up in horse racing and left her there for 45 minutes. The other father simply did not realize his son was in the car. In terms of legal fault, that's not an insignificant distinction.
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Bacchus
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posted 30 July 2007 10:34 AM      Profile for Bacchus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And the father prosecuted has a low IQ, and other learning issues, as stated in the article. Doesnt that normally factor in?
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Michelle
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posted 30 July 2007 10:38 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
pookie, both of the fathers put their children in the car, so both of them knew the kid was there. Then both of them forgot about their kids because they were busy doing other stuff.
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Free_Radical
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posted 30 July 2007 10:50 AM      Profile for Free_Radical     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No.

The first father put their kid in the car to drive them to day care, and ultimately forgot about them.

The second father intentionally put their daughter in a parked car to avoid having to look after her. He checked on her a few times, and then forgot.

Did it merit 20 years and deportation? No. But he seems far more culpable for his actions then the first father.


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pookie
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posted 30 July 2007 10:54 AM      Profile for pookie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
pookie, both of the fathers put their children in the car, so both of them knew the kid was there. Then both of them forgot about their kids because they were busy doing other stuff.


What matters is whether they knew the kid was there when they left the car. According to the story, the first father didn't. Assuming he's telling the truth, that makes a difference.


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pookie
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posted 30 July 2007 10:59 AM      Profile for pookie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Bacchus:
And the father prosecuted has a low IQ, and other learning issues, as stated in the article. Doesnt that normally factor in?

I don't see why that would figure into a decision to prosecute, though it certainly could be a mitigating factor at sentencing. If the disability is that serious, surely the person's ability to parent, period, becomes fair game?


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Michelle
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posted 30 July 2007 11:08 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guess. I don't know. I think it was neglect in both cases. One guy did it out of forgetfulness and the other guy did it out of ignorance.
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pookie
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posted 30 July 2007 11:39 AM      Profile for pookie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I should add that I think that father who was prosecuted has undergone a terrible ordeal and I think the severity of the punishment is inhumane. I just reject the idea that the cases are identical.
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