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Doug
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posted 10 May 2007 03:24 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Tony Blair has announced he will stand down as prime minister on 27 June.

He made the announcement in a speech to party activists in his Sedgefield constituency, after earlier briefing the Cabinet on his plans.

He acknowledged his government had not always lived up to high expectations but said he had been "very blessed" to lead "the greatest nation on earth".


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6639945.stm

Which will make it just over 10 years since he was elected Prime Minister and a bit under 13 since becoming leader of the Labour Party.

I'd like to take this in a constructive direction, so - what can we learn from Tony Blair and the whole New Labour experience? Besides the obvious but ignored old wisdom about not getting involved in a land war in Asia.


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Papal Bull
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posted 10 May 2007 03:40 PM      Profile for Papal Bull   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That you don't get involved in A land war in Asia. You get involved in two!
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N.Beltov
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posted 10 May 2007 04:00 PM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The full quote:
quote:
Vizzini: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Sicilian when death is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
[Vizzini stops suddenly, and falls dead to the right]

from, of course, The Princess Bride (1987)


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Sharon
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posted 13 May 2007 09:28 AM      Profile for Sharon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I could never relate to those people who called Ronald Reagan "The Great Communicator" -- bleah -- but I could understand it when it was used about Tony Blair.

I became very disappointed and disillusioned with Tony Blair -- as so many people did -- but I still couldn't resist his charm and communications skills when he talked. I listened to him announce his resignation this week and was once again amazed by how beautifully he does it.

And I took a special interest in this analysis of his terms in office by Doug Saunders in The Globe and Mail. I have quite a lot of insight into how things work behind the political scenes -- and here's some more stuff to consider:


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"There was often too much attention paid to focus groups, to ensuring that our policies were electable, and there were times when this forced us to abandon our principles or to move too slowly."

This leads to the first deep secret of Tony Blair, the thing neither he nor his advisers wanted to say, lest it destroy their electoral success -- that theirs was a left-wing administration, one that redistributed striking amounts of wealth from the well-off to the poor.

He and his advisers were deeply committed to keeping the loyalty of the readers of Mr. Murdoch's Sun and Daily Mail tabloids, with their deep obsessions with crime and immigration. The phrases "social justice" and "progressive change" were banished from the lexicon of New Labour, replaced with talk of "customer choice."

Yet historians, looking at the effects of the 10 Blair years, will probably list these changes:

The reduction of poverty: Six million people have been lifted above the poverty line; 700,000 children are no longer poor, and the eradication of child poverty seems a realistic goal in the next few years.

This was partly due to massive (and unpublicized) increases in state spending on welfare programs by the Blair administration - and partly due to Mr. Brown's introduction of a minimum wage, which now stands at $11.77 an hour, one of the highest in the world.

Britain's health system, which in 1997 was compared to that of Eastern Europe and parts of the developing world, saw its public investment triple to $207-billion a year, on par with the best in Europe. Waiting lists were almost eliminated, 118 public hospitals and 90,000 public doctors and nurses were added, and the private hospitals in Britain's two-tier system lost tens of thousands of patients who decided that public medicine offered better service.

Its schools, which had been an embarrassment, saw spending double to $11,000 a year per pupil, and learning standards increased dramatically. University attendance increased to 43 per cent of the population, even as tuition fees were introduced for the first time. And the number of state-subsidized child-care places doubled to 1.28 million.

The crime rate fell by 35 per cent, with violent crime dropping by 34 per cent, burglaries by 55 per cent and car theft by 51 per cent. Public arts spending has more than doubled to $907-billion. Sports funding has almost tripled. Importantly, foreign-aid spending has doubled to almost Scandinavian levels.

And the economic story is well known: For the entire decade, Britain has been one of the world's top-performing economies, seeing solid growth in every quarter. It has one of the lowest jobless rates in the world. Government debt has stayed low, below 40 per cent of GDP.

Much of this has been done almost by stealth: Focus groups showed Mr. Blair early on that voters want to hear about crime and social order. Helping the poor was to be done, for moral reasons, but it wasn't to be said, lest the voters of Middle England hear it.


More.


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posted 13 May 2007 09:55 AM      Profile for redflag     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been reading quite a bit about Tony Blair's legacy and what people thought of him now that he's leaving and I have to say that I want to puke after reading what some people have to say about his complete sell-out of the working class.

It's what Tony didn't do that will cost us most

Link

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Weighed down by "big-state" ideology and trade union interests, Labour's record in office was marred by sky-high spending and borrowing, and a taxation policy that drove enterprise into the ground.

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In the public's mind, Labour became "electable", a party that should at least be given a chance to run the economy, when Blair succeeded in re-writing Clause Four of his party's constitution. That was the moment, in mid-1995, less than a year into Blair's leadership, when Labour dropped its doctrinal commitment to mass nationalisation, effectively scrapping "socialism". From then on, Labour became a "modern" party. At a stroke, Blair had neutralised the hard Left, within Parliament and across the trade union movement. As a result, UK economic policy-making took a big leap forward.

It's weird how beating up on labour and the "hard left" is considered to be a good thing.


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Stockholm
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posted 13 May 2007 01:28 PM      Profile for Stockholm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
BUt as Doug Saunders points out, Blair's record on domestic policy was very good in many ways. If the poverty rate fell dramatically and the minimum wage went way up and there were huge investments in health and education...why not give credit where credit is due - whoever awful Blair may have been on foreign policy.
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posted 13 May 2007 05:50 PM      Profile for Pogo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by N.Beltov:
The full quote:

from, of course, The Princess Bride (1987)


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"The U.S. has broken the second rule of war. That is, don't go fighting with your land army on the mainland of Asia. Rule One is don't march on Moscow. I developed these two rules myself."
Quoted in Chalfont's Montgomery of Alamein

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posted 19 May 2007 12:58 PM      Profile for unionist     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Blair might not make it to June 27...

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The unrelenting danger in Iraq was evident on Saturday as Tony Blair made what is believed to be his final visit to the country as British prime minister.

Shortly after Blair arrived in Baghdad's Green Zone, at least three mortar rounds shook the heavily fortified compound.

One person was wounded, U.S. embassy spokesman Lou Fintor said. However, officials stressed that Blair was not in any danger.


It would be just awful, really, if Tony were to return home in a Prime Ministerial body bag. He should be careful!


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sgm
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posted 19 May 2007 01:09 PM      Profile for sgm     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jimmy Carter on Blair's Iraq policy:
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Asked how he would judge Mr. Blair's support of Mr. Bush, the former president said: “Abominable. Loyal. Blind. Apparently subservient.”

“And I think the almost undeviating support by Great Britain for the ill-advised policies of President Bush in Iraq have been a major tragedy for the world,” Mr. Carter told British Broadcasting Corp. radio.


Link.

I haven't seen much mention of it in the "legacy" articles, but Blair's decision to renew Britain's nuclear-armed Trident submarine fleet was another serious mistake, and a major setback for efforts at nuclear disarmament and non-proliferation.


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