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audra trower williams
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posted 01 May 2001 01:15 PM

Are there any countries anyone won't go to for moral or ethical reasons?

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Cosmorific
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posted 01 May 2001 02:46 PM

Austria, because they put that bastard Jorg Haider into office.

England, not so much for political as agricultural reasons. And if I did go there, you can bet I wouldn't eat the burgers.

Other than that, I can't think of anywhere specifically.

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Michelle
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posted 25 May 2001 11:12 PM

How about Afghanistan out of a healthy sense of preservation?

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DrConway
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posted 25 May 2001 11:23 PM

You couldn't pay me enough to go to China.

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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 28 May 2001 11:51 AM

I don't see how simply not visiting a country helps its people very much.

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skdadl
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posted 28 May 2001 01:13 PM

If I figure that I'm going to be freer as a tourist than the locals are in real life, and if I know (as I always do) that nothing I can do is going to help them, then I don't wanna go. That cuts out an awful lot of countries. High on the list, though, might be Burma, now really drumming up the Western tourist trade -- I'd feel like a rat supporting that regime, and others like it.

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beachcomber
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posted 01 June 2001 01:04 AM

Afghanistan - Taliban (I'm not into wearing a burka)
Iraq - Saddam (he's a fascist ass)
Bahrain - single foreign women unaccompanied by men will no longer be granted travel visas. (!)

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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 01 June 2001 10:49 AM

So, if it wasn't for the governments, you WOULD want to visit those places?!?!

[ June 01, 2001: Message edited by: mediaboy ]

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skdadl
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posted 01 June 2001 11:21 AM

Yes, I would love to go to Burma if I didn't think my dollars would be used by the regime against the people. I know just enough about its C20 history and about how beautiful it is to want to go.

(It is true that the French government would have to do something really egregious to keep me away from Paris or Brittany. And a whole lot of people who work on something like my principle just have to try to pretend that there isn't a government in Italy. )

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Dawna Matrix
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posted 01 June 2001 12:40 PM

Quatar tops my list, but that's a null concept because I would only like to visit westernized countries. I don't see how rubbing their noses in tourism helps a third world country. UGH. I don't know how anyone can feel good about pompously buying chiclets from streetkids in Mexico. Maybe my first world guilt is just too overwhelming. I'll stick with Canada and the States. There's enough here to keep me busy for a lifetime. I'd do Europe if it ever became interesting to me.

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DrConway
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posted 01 June 2001 07:48 PM

I agree. I prefer to travel within Anglo-America.

Part of it's my temperature tolerance; I can't stand hot zones and Mexico would be intolerable for me. Even Arizona/California/New Mexico would be problematic in the summer months, although in the "shoulder" months of Feb - April or Sept - Oct, I'd go.

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skdadl
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posted 02 June 2001 09:23 AM

I know the temperature-tolerance problem. People laugh at us for always heading for the cold and the wet (Scotland and Brittany), but we are pale freckled faint-prone persons.

Does anyone else feel some serious reservations about travel in the U.S.?

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Pimji
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posted 02 June 2001 12:02 PM

If I was choosing to go on a vacation I would not choose the US as my top choices to go. There are some great places in institutions to visit but US forgien policy is not something I am enamoured with.
I wouldn't have any problem visiting Cuba. If my wife and I were to travel in the near future it would be to Cambodia to visit relatives and to hopefully offer some assistance to their village. But I the impression I get is that he village is like a Cambodian version of a Canadian trailer park.

[ June 03, 2001: Message edited by: Pimji ]

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DrConway
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posted 02 June 2001 11:08 PM

I get very paranoid about going to the USA sometimes, since I can't afford to carry out of country health insurance (Markbo, we already went over this, so save it if you're going to pipe up again).

So far I've been lucky. Lettuce pray that this continues to hold.

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Victor Von Mediaboy
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posted 04 June 2001 11:25 AM

One of my pipe-dreams is to buy a really fuel-efficient car and drive all over Canada and maybe the US. I've seen so little of my own country so far, I'm not too anxious about travelling around Europe yet.

I love the Adirondacks and the Lake Champlain region.

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audra trower williams
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posted 22 July 2003 04:20 PM

Bump.

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Performance Anxiety
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posted 22 July 2003 07:16 PM

Alberta.

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skdadl
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posted 22 July 2003 07:26 PM

Pill off, PA.

I realize that some of this thread shocks me now. I came to read it because I knew that I objected to PA's bigoted attitude towards Alberta, and I wanted to register my disgust at his bigotry.

But the way the thread starts off really shocked me.

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Michelle
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posted 22 July 2003 07:35 PM

Whose post in particular? I don't see anything shocking.

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skdadl
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posted 22 July 2003 07:39 PM

Well, ok, I've just read the discussion over, and it turns into an interesting discussion (except for PA's thoughtless comment about Alberta) ...

I guess the comment about England surprised me -- although that was when I looked up and saw the date. I dunno ... I don't even like reading myself there, although I would still say what I wrote then about Burma.

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Michelle
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posted 22 July 2003 07:55 PM

I would still say what I said about Afghanistan too. Back when I wrote that, the oppression of women there was horrific. It's probably still not that great to be a woman there these days. I would definitely not go to Afghanistan, then or now.

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lagatta
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posted 22 July 2003 08:24 PM

The son of a friend of mine was in Afghanistan recently, as an aid worker with ALTERNATIVES (see rabble front page). Confess we were all holding our breath...

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