Not mentioned in this piece: Ewanchuk, a teenager who wouldn't give up and an idiot judge's pronouncements lead to No Meaning No.

Judges clash over landmark sex-assault ruling
No definitely means no: Supreme Court judge castigated for 'graceless slide into personal invective'

Side note: Alberta judge apologizes for part of his letter

[ 27 October 2006: Message edited by: writer ]

I am on your side on this one. This repeat offender or should I write creep needs to be kept away from society. However, there are many in the babble group who do not think so as you can read in this babble thread.

This guy has chosen his destiny. He should die in prison as one of the first victims said in the article,

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"It's ridiculous. He doesn't deserve to be out," she said outside the courtroom. "He's a repeat, dangerous predator."
Ewanchuk's lawyer announced earlier this week that his client has colon and prostate cancer and will likely undergo surgery next month.
"Too bad," said the woman. "I don't really feel sorry for him at all."

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Originally posted by Sans Tache:
Hey Writer,

I am on your side on this one. This repeat offender or should I write creep needs to be kept away from society. However, there are many in the babble group who do not think so as you can read in this babble thread.

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No, I don't support stupid laws like the one discussed in the other thread. I say this as someone who has been assaulted as both a child and adult. I say this as a feminist. I say this as someone who believes we could do a better job as we strive for justice. I say this as a progressive who really, really objects to having my experiences, and those of others, exploited by opportunists who are eager to speak for me.

So no, you are not on my side, if this is how you choose to behave in this forum.

[ 30 October 2006: Message edited by: writer ]

If you have a then and now theme to your post, please add a little commentary. Do you feel that I cannot make a comment in the feminism forum?

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Originally posted by bigcitygal:
writer: yeah I saw that in one of your links. Nellie McLung was a feminist in her day, not without some problems and gaps of course. When I saw that factoid I was a bit more disappointed than I would have been otherwise, but why should that be? She's not responsible for Judge McLung's idiocy.

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Millsap said Ewanchuk's 37-year career of sex crimes doesn't show a pattern of repetitive behaviour, noting the nature of the assaults changed from decade to decade.

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A 37 -year career of sex crimes is not repetitive?

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Edmonton sex predator gets 11 years in jail

An Alberta man at the centre of the high-profile "no means no" case seven years ago will be going to prison for a maximum of 11 years for sexually assaulting an eight-year-old girl.

... Though the Crown had pushed for a 25-year term, Sanderman said a sentence that harsh was never an option, because its against legal sentencing principles.

... Sanderman settled on a total sentence of 16½ years, but gave Ewanchuk 5½ years for time served at the remand centre while in custody.

... Ewanchuk was convicted in November 2005 in the latest case involving the eight-year-old, but sentencing was delayed while the Crown argued he should be declared a dangerous offender and jailed indefinitely.

Sanderman didn't go that far. Ewanchuk's long-term offender status means he will be under strict supervision for 10 years after parole.

cbc.ca

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Originally posted by Polly Brandybuck:
I am still having trouble believing the short sentence. Eleven years??! For sexually assaulting an eight year old? What the fuck is that.

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I like to think that McClung might have viewed the case differently had he known the whole story (not that the partial story was insufficient to convict E.).

Well, I like to think that, anyway.

[ 23 February 2007: Message edited by: pookie ]