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CMOT Dibbler
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posted 18 June 2008 12:33 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
... To be a democratically minded socialist and live quite happily in a dictatorship like Jordan? At one point, I had a discussion with a family friend about Cuba, and he told me that I wouldn't like living there. I am wondering whether that is correct, and if I would stagnate in a society governed by a totalitarian government.

[ 18 June 2008: Message edited by: CMOT Dibbler ]

[Edited by Michelle to change the thread title so that it has something to do with the subject of the thread.]

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jeff house
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posted 18 June 2008 01:01 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There are many countries in which citizens are not allowed to know what is happening inside of the government. OF COURSE you cannot reach your full potential as a human being when you live in a dictatorship; the more totalitarian it is, the worse for its citizens.

In those countries, citizens are not challenged to think about policies, or how the country might become better. It is not their business, it is the business of the Central Committee, the Great Leader, or the Interpreter of Gods Word.

While there are many theorists who have discussed the potential for growth by individuals who are permitted to think about questions of government, education, health care and the like, my personal favorite in Habermas. In wiki, his theory is described as follows:

quote:
He carries forward the traditions of Kant and the Enlightenment and of democratic socialism through his emphasis on the potential for transforming the world and arriving at a more humane, just, and egalitarian society through the realization of the human potential for reason, in part through discourse ethics. While Habermas concedes that the Enlightenment is an "unfinished project," he argues it should be corrected and complemented, not discarded.

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kropotkin1951
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posted 18 June 2008 01:10 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
NAFTA

Security and Prosperity

So do you really believe citizens have any say in those issues? We have had a succesion of governments that ignored the majority views of Canadians how is that a functioning democracy.

Yeah I can post on babble without getting shot. We are better than Columbia with its death squads taking care of lefties. Did anyone notice the ground swell of grassroots support the Columbia Free Trade agreement has aroused.


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CMOT Dibbler
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posted 18 June 2008 01:46 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
There are many countries in which citizens are not allowed to know what is happening inside of the government. OF COURSE you cannot reach your full potential as a human being when you live in a dictatorship; the more totalitarian it is, the worse for its citizens.

But there are dictatorships that allow more political action then others, right?


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lagatta
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posted 19 June 2008 12:15 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why on earth is this topic on "out and about"?
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Michelle
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posted 19 June 2008 03:11 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Good question.

Moving to international news and politics, I guess.


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RevolutionPlease
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posted 19 June 2008 05:49 PM      Profile for RevolutionPlease     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is it possible to live happily in a dictatorship?

Sure, I'm quite happy in Canada. They piss me off but it would be tough to give up this internet thingy. Wait, doesn't Wayne MacPhail have an article on this site about that?

Link

and more recently


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RevolutionPlease
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posted 19 June 2008 05:51 PM      Profile for RevolutionPlease     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And I have a few Jordanian friends who rave about their country but admit it is flawed like Canada.
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