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Topic: UK: Limp Wrist = Anti-gay Attack
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Crippled_Newsie
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posted 07 November 2005 03:03 PM
BBC: quote: A Trowbridge man suffered serious brain damage after he was set upon by four men who thought his limp wrist was a sign he was gay, a court has heard. Asa Freeman, 33, was left with a limp left wrist after a stroke when he was younger, Swindon Crown Court was told. Mr Freeman and his best friend, both of whom are heterosexual, were on a night out in Trowbridge when they were attacked by a group of men. ... "Mr Freeman [had spoken to the group, saying]..."'All right lads? Have a good evening'," prosecutor Andrew MacFarlane told the court. He went on to say the group responded by calling Mr Freeman and a "faggot" and a "queer". [Then they attacked.] ... Mr Freeman suffered a blood clot on the brain that required him to be airlifted to Frenchay Hospital near Bristol for immediate surgery. He is still in hospital, having recently regained "a sort of consciousness" from a coma, [the prosecutor] said. "Mr Freeman is unable to perform any functions for himself," he said.
From: It's all about the thumpa thumpa. | Registered: Oct 2004
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aRoused
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posted 07 November 2005 06:26 PM
It's not safe over here, folks. That British reserve has been dissolved in a vat of booze. I'm not kidding.I want to say 'let's wait until it comes to trial', after all, they've grabbed the four wastes of skin they think did it. The trick will be proving it and then attempting to get them a reasonable (harsh) sentence, not just 'oh, well, it's GBH, but they're nice working lads with families, so let's give them a month and time served', or some other worthless sentence that the British courts hand down all too frequently. This is no better than the old News of the World campaign against paedophiles (note spelling) that wound up with paediatricians getting assaulted at their homes and outside their practices. Fucking asininely stupid illiterate bloody country. And to think I tell people I expect to stay here after I finish my degree...
From: The King's Royal Burgh of Eoforwich | Registered: Dec 2001
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lagatta
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posted 07 November 2005 06:37 PM
aRoused, where do you suppose the horrible excesses in drunken violence come from in contemporary Britain? It seems a lot more serious than some kids going out and getting wasted, finding themselves sick and robbed and learning their lesson... When I was living in Europe I'd often see British people - and not just youths but men of 35-40 years (and I suppose women too, but I happened to notice more men, or perhaps they were just more menacing) staggering around, spending every moment of their holiday as drunk as humanly possible, getting into fights. Now, I like my vino, this isn't an anti-drinking rant. But there is something really, really sick, and that combines with race hatred or homophobia to produce murderous results.
From: Se non ora, quando? | Registered: Apr 2002
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CMOT Dibbler
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posted 07 November 2005 08:24 PM
quote: Paradoxically, there may actually be less violence against gays in small towns and rural areas for two reasons: (1) If you had a choice, why would you live in a small town where most people think gays are the spawn of Satan himself and (2) for those gays who do live in small towns and rural areas, they are often (with good reason) reluctant to be open about who they are.
Sven, while I'm aware of the homophobia in my small town, part of me recoils from condemning all small towns everywhere as homophobic cesspits. [ 07 November 2005: Message edited by: CMOT Dibbler ]
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Amy
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posted 07 November 2005 08:25 PM
I know lots of people in towns I grew up in who just didn't report it when they were beaten pretty badly. It would have involved talking to the police, who could have been their buddy's parent, or worse, the parent of the person doing the beating. In a bigger centre the anonimity makes the number gathering more accurate, or atleast that's what I would imagine to be the case. CMOT, I think that that could be why there's 'only been one' incident of bashing in Fernie area... not because there hasn't been more, but because it's not often safe for those who've been tagetted to call it that.I also think it's important to keep in mind the rural-urban distribution of population when thinking about this- most of the news (atleast in Canada) comes from cities period. The lack of anonimity can also go the other way. Everyone will know who did what in a small town, so there's a certain amount of protecting themselves that the people who do these awful things engage in. It's one thing to beat someone up- that happens regularly enough- but to put someone in the hospital can mean suddenly the whole town knows it and the whole town is against you. For what it's worth, the only place I feel 100% safe "being outwardly queer" is in my house, with the 'friendly' members of my family and my friends. I've been at queer-friendly events where what were later called hate crimes were commited, so there's always that element of insecurity.
From: the whole town erupts and/ bursts into flame | Registered: Feb 2002
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aRoused
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posted 08 November 2005 12:37 PM
quote: aRoused, where do you suppose the horrible excesses in drunken violence come from in contemporary Britain?
It's the £64,000 pound question, that everyone is trying to answer. My personal opinion is that it's a multiheaded hydra:- Britain under Labour has seen certain segments of society become more affluent than they were during the 80s. - There is a national obsession with conspicuous consumption, a sort of attempt to 'outbling' America. - I might even add the boom in house prices into the mix: if you're more affluent than you would have been in the 80s, but still can't afford to buy a home, you'll turn that money to other purposes, in line with the above two points. And finally: - Booze is *incredibly* cheap in the UK, relative to the prices of everything else. When I look at the cost of things here adjusted for exchange rates, most things are twice as expensive as they are in Canada. A litre of milk costs me about a pound, $2-$2.30, depending on the exchange rate. BUT, alcohol is almost the same price as it is in Canada. A litre of Bell's whisky is about £15, so about $30-$35, which is about what it would cost to buy in Canada. And alcohol is the only thing I've found here that's at par with Canadian prices. So, if you're affluent, or want to think you are, but can't afford any of the consumer goods, at least you can throw a good party with lots of booze. Result: gin-soaked mayhem, C19-stylee.
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