babble home
rabble.ca - news for the rest of us
today's active topics


Post New Topic  Post A Reply
FAQ | Forum Home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» babble   » walking the talk   » labour and consumption   » Cel Phone advice?

Email this thread to someone!    
Author Topic: Cel Phone advice?
Mycroft_
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2230

posted 05 April 2003 11:29 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm thinking of getting a cel phone. Any idea on what the cheapeast phone would be (I live in Toronto), preferably with unlimited evenings and weekends or more free minutes than I'd likely use.
From: Toronto | Registered: Feb 2002  |  IP: Logged
Kindred
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 3285

posted 05 April 2003 11:32 PM      Profile for Kindred     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My advise would be dont go with Rogers AT&T
From: British Columbia | Registered: Nov 2002  |  IP: Logged
Mycroft_
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2230

posted 05 April 2003 11:36 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Really, they seemed to have a better plan than Bell.

Are there any viable alternatives to Bell and Rogers AT&T?


From: Toronto | Registered: Feb 2002  |  IP: Logged
radiorahim
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2777

posted 06 April 2003 12:00 AM      Profile for radiorahim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Telus, Bell Mobility and Rogers AT&T are the three "big players" in Canada's cell industry and have the most extensive coverage if you happen to be travelling around.

"Fido" has very limited coverage...mostly in and around major urban areas. So if you happen to take a trip up to Muskoka for the weekend...your cell phone isn't going to work much past Orillia.

It really depends on how much you plan to use your phone and if you want any of the "extra" services like text messaging and things like that. Nowadays they're even putting digital cameras into these little devices.

There are simple "pay as you go" packages where you just buy a phone card for a set amount of money or pay by credit card. Or you can go on one of the "plans".

Best thing to do is to visit each of the company's websites so that you can compare prices and see what works for you.


From: a Micro$oft-free computer | Registered: Jun 2002  |  IP: Logged
Michelle
Moderator
Babbler # 560

posted 06 April 2003 08:11 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Telus is pretty good. I have a plan by them. You haven't told us whether you're going to make this an emergency phone or your actual main phone, but I assume that since you want to have unlimited evenings and weekends that you want it to be your main phone.

I did that with Telus. It worked really well. With their "talk 50" plan, you get unlimited incoming calls as long as you are in your local zone when receiving the calls. Problem is, Mycroft, from what I understand from earlier, you travel a lot between Kingston and Toronto, no? So wherever it is that you are "local", you will get free incoming calls (plus 500 minutes of local outgoing calls per month) but only when you're in your local area.

However, you CAN get around that by using calling cards. Because as long as you call a number in the same calling zone, it's a local call, whether you're in you cell phone's local zone or not. So for instance, for me, I have a Kingston phone number. My local zone is Kingston and the surrounding area. But when I'm in Toronto, if I phone a Toronto number from my cell, it is also considered local.

However. If you're out of your zone, all incoming calls from anywhere are long distance. So when I'm in Toronto, if someone calls me and I answer it (oh, and you get call display, so you don't have to answer it, you can just immediately call back), then I get charged long distance charges because I'm accepting a call while out of my zone.

Sounds confusing. But unless you've got one or more people that you talk to for hours on end who is long distance, the talk 50 plan is really good because of those unlimited incoming calls while you're in your local area.

It worked for me for months. Unfortunately, though, it doesn't work so great anymore for me, because even using calling cards to make long distance calls, I now use so much long distance time that there's no way to limit it to 500 minutes a month, unless you tell the person on the other end that they have to call you all the time - and most people don't really want to do that unless they have an "understanding" about it. And after you use the 500 minutes, you start paying something like 25 cents a minute for long distance. Oogs.

Oh, also, when you're in the US, even if you make a local call, there's a relatively nasty roaming charge slapped onto your call. I discovered that.

Anyhow, I haven't seen a better plan than the "talk 50" plan, and I've shopped around. Other people I know with cell phones drop their jaw when I tell them about my plan. Oh, and I got the phone for free too, but I had to sign up for a two year contract to get it. Oh well.


From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Mycroft_
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2230

posted 06 April 2003 12:11 PM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So I can get a plan and calling cards? Or just one or the other? Are calling cards the prepaid plan thingy or are they something else?

Ow, I think I just got an aneurism.


From: Toronto | Registered: Feb 2002  |  IP: Logged
SamL
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2199

posted 06 April 2003 11:24 PM      Profile for SamL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Which companies have "pay-as-you-go". No one seems to publicize it.
From: Cambridge, MA | Registered: Feb 2002  |  IP: Logged
TommyPaineatWork
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2956

posted 07 April 2003 01:35 AM      Profile for TommyPaineatWork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm inching closer to getting a cell phone. My long distance bills have evaporated, so it shouldn't add to my monthly outlay.

I've seen people use the calling cards. It sounds utilitarian, but it also seems like a hassel going out to get cards all the time.

So maybe next month I'll be doing some serious shopping for a plan.


From: London | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged
Mycroft_
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2230

posted 07 April 2003 01:52 AM      Profile for Mycroft_     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ok, so these calling cards aren't normal calling cards but are especially for cels? Are they what people refer to when they talk about "prepaid" cel plans or "pay as you go"?

Is it worthwhile getting text messaging? It's quite popular in Europe where it's a cheaper alternative to local landline calls (which are all tolled, unlike in North America) but hasn't caught on at all here because of our free local calling.

See No Text Please We're Americans


From: Toronto | Registered: Feb 2002  |  IP: Logged
TommyPaineatWork
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2956

posted 07 April 2003 02:19 AM      Profile for TommyPaineatWork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, they are cards you pick up for your cell, and are available at most convenience stores.


Some people are just into gadgets and features, and it turns them on to have the latest and greatest bell and whistle. Text messaging strikes me as being up their alley, but then I'm not really experienced enough to pass judgement on that feature.

It all depends on what kind of person you are. I'm not much of a phone person in the first place, so I've been a slow convert to the utility of cell phones.


From: London | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged
Sine Ziegler
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 225

posted 07 April 2003 11:21 PM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hey Mycroft, I was new into the cell market in October and I decided to get with Bell. I hate Telus for biased reasons.

You really have to do some shopping to find out what is best for you. What is within your budget.. do you want a contract? how much are you using your cell? If you go to a mall, the main players will all have booths within crawling distance from each other. Unfortunately, none of the salespeople are really that helpful because they arent enthusiastic about their low wages.

Mention that you are with a company and ask for a corporate discount. No joke. Rogers has a discount for the major firms and don't even bother checking your work ID.

My friend went with FIDO because it is pay as you go and he dosnt use his cell too much. he dosnt feel has to use it, nor does he feel he shouldn't use it. He just uses it you know?

With Bell, they kept giving me a bunch of free perks but once they expired, I would have to cancel myself and sometimes it took a hefty phone bill to figure that out. I am a heavy spender though so I don't mind my finances and I don't get bothered with things like that.

FIDO is best for people who are tight budgeters. Telus is for people who want to be abused, and I don't know squat about Rogers.


From: Calgary | Registered: Apr 2001  |  IP: Logged
Leftfield
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 3925

posted 11 April 2003 03:03 AM      Profile for Leftfield     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've had some really bad luck with Rogers..

As a reformed cellphone addict, I think the best advice I can give is to get a role of quarters and use payphones when you are on the move..


From: New Jerusalem | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged
TommyPaineatWork
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2956

posted 11 April 2003 04:28 AM      Profile for TommyPaineatWork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I don't know what FIDO's coverage is like out west, but I've seen thier map of the Windsor/Toronto corridor and there's lots of gaps.
From: London | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged
Rebecca West
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 1873

posted 11 April 2003 09:14 AM      Profile for Rebecca West     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fido sucks anywhere but in Toronto, I've found. As loathe as I am to give Hell Canada more of my business, I have to say that my Bell Mobility pay-as-you-go deal is vastly superior to Fido.
From: London , Ontario - homogeneous maximus | Registered: Nov 2001  |  IP: Logged
Michelle
Moderator
Babbler # 560

posted 11 April 2003 09:19 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Mycroft, I just discovered (after changing my cell phone number to a Toronto phone number today) that Telus also has a "talk anywhere" plan - for $30 a month, you can be anywhere in Canada, no matter what your "zone", and you can receive calls from anywhere in Canada or the US, and phone anywhere in Canada, for 150 minutes a month. There is also the option to add unlimited evenings and weekends for an extra amount per month, but I didn't get into details with that, because I'm not using my cell for anything but job hunting in Toronto.

So that's kind of neat too.


From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
bakunin
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 3991

posted 13 April 2003 07:57 PM      Profile for bakunin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
if you need a cell for only in the city(any major centre in canada) use FIDO. its cheaper than all others by far. they also have really good customer service- my phone broke once so i called them. 72 hrs later their was a brand new replacement phone in my mailbox, free of charge.

avoid the pay-as-you-go plans unless you plan on using the phone very little. and when checking out prices make sure you see all applicable monthly 'access' fees and such to get the true price. my gf just got a rogers phone. the guy at the shop said it was thirty $ per month. the actual charge comes to 46 or 47 dollars a month.


***had to add***: fido has no contracts and charges by the second

[ 13 April 2003: Message edited by: bakunin ]


From: we may not convince you but we'll convince your children | Registered: Apr 2003  |  IP: Logged
TommyPaineatWork
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 2956

posted 15 April 2003 02:41 AM      Profile for TommyPaineatWork     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Telus also has a "talk anywhere" plan - for $30 a month

I was looking at a brochure from Telus tonight, and I saw the various plans they have. Then I read on, and started to see other charges like a "licencing fee" and a "911" fee, and an instalation fee.....

That's what they call in the business world "low balling". They get you hooked in with an atractive advertised price, then hit you with add ons.

I may still end up going with Telus, but I don't like that kind of crap.

If someone can't tell you how much something costs in one short sentence, then your being played.

[ 15 April 2003: Message edited by: TommyPaineatWork ]

[ 15 April 2003: Message edited by: TommyPaineatWork ]


From: London | Registered: Aug 2002  |  IP: Logged
bakunin
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 3991

posted 15 April 2003 04:18 AM      Profile for bakunin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
fido costs $42.xx (including all taxes and fees) per month for:

100 min wkdays
unlimtd eve. & wknd.
caller id
voice messaging


From: we may not convince you but we'll convince your children | Registered: Apr 2003  |  IP: Logged
Michelle
Moderator
Babbler # 560

posted 15 April 2003 08:49 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Tommy, every company has to charge you the 911 fee and the network fee, and they have to charge it separately. Call anyone - they will have those fees as well. They're mandatory, by law.

As for the installation fee - maybe I got a deal, but I had absolutely no fees other than the regular monthly 911 and networking fee. No installation charges, nothing. I didn't even have to pay for the phone, although I'm paying for it now by being locked into a contract.

Wow, that fido deal sounds amazing. I was in Kingston when I got my cell phone deal, and I didn't notice Fido in Kingston. Too bad I'm in the middle of a two year contract with Telus, or I'd consider switching.

Is the service good?

[ 15 April 2003: Message edited by: Michelle ]


From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Rebecca West
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 1873

posted 15 April 2003 03:45 PM      Profile for Rebecca West     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My Fido phone wouldn't work in Kingston. Or in parts of London, or most places in between. It was just fine for Toronto, but that was it. I gave it to friends when I moved to London.

I paid about $100 for the phone I have now and spend less than $30 a month on minutes. No contract, no extra fees or add-ons. I use it for short conversations throughout the month (pretty much what I use my regular phone for) and for emergency purposes. It costs the same any time of the day, any day of the week. And it works all over the place, though the minutes get eaten up at a long distance rate if I use it outside the local calling range.

I checked out the contracts and the package deals and found my personal usage just couldn't justify the extra $15 per month I'd have to pay, with or without the contract. Those plans may be perfect for those with higher usage, but I find the pay-as-you-go is the best for my specific purposes. And I really really like not having yet another bill to pay each month.


From: London , Ontario - homogeneous maximus | Registered: Nov 2001  |  IP: Logged
Michelle
Moderator
Babbler # 560

posted 15 April 2003 04:07 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Will Fido work if you're calling long distance? For instance, if I'm in Toronto and I want to call someone in Kingston, will that work properly?

Otherwise, what's the point?


From: I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell. | Registered: May 2001  |  IP: Logged
Rebecca West
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 1873

posted 16 April 2003 01:31 PM      Profile for Rebecca West     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Actually, I don't remember having any problems with long distance, but I didn't call Kingston on my Fido. I had no trouble connecting to where my sister and mother live - on a small island on the west coast.

If you don't want to go with Bell Mobility, Telus has a very good network, with virtually no dead zones along the southern Ontario-Quebec corridor. They also have a pay-as-you-go deal, similar to Fido's, and the phones are all priced competetively among the major cell providers. You can pay anywhere between $100-$700 for a phone.


From: London , Ontario - homogeneous maximus | Registered: Nov 2001  |  IP: Logged
bakunin
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 3991

posted 16 April 2003 03:44 PM      Profile for bakunin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
long distance is no problem.
actually last time i was in toronto visiting i brought my phone(from vancouver). i could use it like a local phone while there. so you only pay long distance if you are truley calling over a long distance. local calls are local in relation to the location of the phone.

fido will give you a phone for free too.

(they should be paying me for this)

[ 16 April 2003: Message edited by: bakunin ]


From: we may not convince you but we'll convince your children | Registered: Apr 2003  |  IP: Logged
Rebecca West
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 1873

posted 16 April 2003 04:20 PM      Profile for Rebecca West     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fido doesn't give you a phone for free - they include the cost of the phone in the package.
From: London , Ontario - homogeneous maximus | Registered: Nov 2001  |  IP: Logged
bakunin
rabble-rouser
Babbler # 3991

posted 16 April 2003 05:22 PM      Profile for bakunin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
i don't know what package you speak of but i have recieved 2 phones for free from fido (hows that for alliteration)
From: we may not convince you but we'll convince your children | Registered: Apr 2003  |  IP: Logged

All times are Pacific Time  

Post New Topic  Post A Reply Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | rabble.ca | Policy Statement

Copyright 2001-2008 rabble.ca