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bevy
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posted 06 March 2003 01:29 PM      Profile for bevy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Canada failing its women, U.N. says
Mar. 6, 2003. 05:24 AM


OTTAWA - Canada isn't doing enough to ensure women's equality on many fronts, including parental leave, childcare and pay equity, argues a highly critical United Nations report on how this country is living up to its international commitments. Valerie Lawton explains reaction to the UN report.

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CyberNomad
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posted 06 March 2003 03:35 PM      Profile for CyberNomad     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Click here to go directly to TorStar article.

It's a damning report.

Notice this:

quote:
Jean Augustine, the federal government's junior cabinet minister responsible for the status of women, was in New York yesterday and didn't respond to an interview request.

"Junior" minister!

The saddest part about all this is the fact that Paul Martin -- the author of the mentioned budget cuts -- is basking in the limelight of "balanced budgets" and "surpluses" ... and he is well on his way to becoming the next prime minister of Canada!

The women of Canada better be prepared to tighten their economic belts another notch of two. For shame!


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Willowdale Wizard
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posted 06 March 2003 04:12 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
it just puts the lie to those UN ratings through the 1990's of "canada being #1 again this year", doesn't it? they couldn't have included factors such as gender disparities.
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mighty brutus
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posted 06 March 2003 05:35 PM      Profile for mighty brutus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Why would anyone take anything that the UN says seriously? Canada failing its women indeed! What rot! If anything, it may be the best time ever to be a woman in Canada. For all our imperfections as a society, there are many people in other parts of the world who would gladly change places with us.
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posted 06 March 2003 05:55 PM      Profile for Willowdale Wizard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
If anything, it may be the best time ever to be a woman in Canada.

maybe i'm missing something ... did you used to be one?


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posted 06 March 2003 06:06 PM      Profile for paxamillion   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Nicely said, WW.
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mighty brutus
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posted 06 March 2003 06:13 PM      Profile for mighty brutus     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
.....maybe
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Gir Draxon
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posted 06 March 2003 08:30 PM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Why would anyone take anything that the UN says seriously? Canada failing its women indeed! What rot! If anything, it may be the best time ever to be a woman in Canada. For all our imperfections as a society, there are many people in other parts of the world who would gladly change places with us.

Full concurence!

This is absolute bullshit... inequality of the sexes in Canada is all sophistry. But even so, look at some other regions of the world. Should we not be more concerned over real sexism in other countries, than over these perceived petty inequalities here in Canada?


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lagatta
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posted 06 March 2003 08:55 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm heartened to see that our neocon trolls have been won over to the cause of proletarian internationalism.
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posted 06 March 2003 10:22 PM      Profile for verbatim   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When there is actual equality between men and women in Canada, as opposed to formal equality (equality in theory or on paper), then GD's and Brutus' arguments might make sense. Otherwise it's rubbish.
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bevy
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posted 07 March 2003 10:09 AM      Profile for bevy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just today I was reading an article in the Globe and Mail that stated that many developing countries are ahead of Canada when it comes to women in Public Office. I would suggest that we fix things up here first before "saving" all those poor women in foreign lands. Something the West often forgets is that equality doesn't always look the same as it does (supposing it existed) here.
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lagatta
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posted 07 March 2003 11:21 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No, Bevy, I don't think we can make the choice. Struggling to achieve actual - as opposed to merely formal - equality for women (and justice for all people) here and solidarity with women in situations that are far more dire must not be counterpoised - they contribute to each other.

Don't mean BushandBlair's "War against Machism", but solidarity with groups throughout the world fighting for women's rights and the other human rights that are inextricably connected with these. One example is the recent World March of Women.


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posted 07 March 2003 11:51 AM      Profile for bevy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I wasn't suggesting that we should ignore all struggles for equality outside of Canada. I was replyingn to Gir Draxon: "Should we not be more concerned over real sexism in other countries, than over these perceived petty inwqualities here in Canada?"

I agree that fighting for equality here should be done in Solidarity with women around the world. I just don't think we should have an authoriatian attitude that so often prevails. It shold be done in suport of grass root equality movements.

As for situations that are "far more dire" I think they often exist here. Not all women in Canada are white and middle class.


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lagatta
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posted 07 March 2003 12:50 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree with you, bevy. A very sad example is the mass murders of the aboriginal women in Vancouver and the many young women (also largely "dark-skinned", that is of aboriginal descent) in the maquilladoras in Mexico.

When I say "more dire" it is not to negate the very severe problems faced by women in Canada - and not only among aboriginals and "visible minorities", but to talk about such horrible situations as the mass rapes and murders of women in Rwanda, the former Yugoslavia, Colombia... and similar particularly flagrant human rights abuses, the denial of education and nutrition to women (to men too, but girls eat last and get last chance to attend school) and so forth.


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Trisha
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posted 13 March 2003 01:13 PM      Profile for Trisha     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
WOMEN DON'T HAVE THE RIGHTS WE THINK WE HAVE!

I'm in possession of a copy of the report "Canada's Failure to Act: Women's Equality Deepens" by FAFIA (Feminist Alliance for International Action) and if you don't believe that the status of women in Canada is in trouble, I'd advise you to find a copy of this and read it. The facts prove that "current policies and practices are, in fact, ignoring women's entrenched disadvantage and pushing women backwards". For instance, on poverty alone, 56% of sole support women are poor, making their children poor as well, 49% of women 65 and over, 47% under 65, some of these are the largest numbers in 30 years.

Most of women's poverty is due to cuts in social services and programs, reduction in women's "good jobs", tightened rules for access to services such as Employment Insurance, heavily sex-segregated employment policies which were supposed to be largely eliminated but haven't been, lack of equal pay for work of equal value.

Gender-based analysis due to different impacts on men and women by legislation and policies was promised in "Setting the Stage for the Next Century: The Federal Plan for Gender Equality" but this has not been implemented and there's no plan in place to make it mandatory when and if it is.

Human Rights for women is another area where the government has announced improvements that have never happened. The report "Human Rights Act Review Panel Promoting Equality: A New Vision was issued in 2000 with clear and urgent recommendation and the federal government has neither commented or acted.

The Court Challenges Program which was supposed to guarantee accessibility to socially disadvantaged groups in Canada is limited to funding equality test cases which challenge federal laws, policies and practices. Many, nay most, areas of law vital to women are provincial and not covered by these.

What is above is only from the first few pages of this long report and are fairly general. The report gets quite specific. The unrecognized truth is that government policies that claim to promote women's equality and value are mainly just "lip service", they are either insufficient or do the exact opposite.

I have no faith in a law that says I can be jailed for defending myself against a physical attack by a male or someone stronger than me just because somebody thinks being equal means it should be this way. That's another result of one of the so-called laws toward women's equality, yet we are still denied many legal services because of poverty issues when this happens to us.

The report has many specific sections concerning situational issues, violence, poverty and employment, race and colour discrimination, immigration & refugee issues, prison discrimination, the legal system in general, health care and other categories I can't recall at the moment. It's a real eye-opener.

Since this report is so big and so concise, I can't address everything in it on this forum but I am willing to look up some specific issues when I have time. I'm doing online advocacy work concerning women's rights and have a very busy schedule at the moment due to issues that are going before the government.


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