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Topic: 'End Times' Religious Groups Want Apocalypse Soon
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ceti
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posted 24 June 2006 01:50 PM
God save us from these lunatics! quote: Generations of Christians have hoped for the Second Coming of Jesus, said UCLA historian Eugen Weber, author of the 1999 book "Apocalypses: Prophecies, Cults and Millennial Beliefs Through the Ages.""And it's always been an ultimately bloody hope, a slaughterhouse hope," he added with a sigh. "What we have now in this global age is a vaster and bloodier-than-ever Wagnerian version. But, then, we are a very imaginative race." ...According to various polls, an estimated 40% of Americans believe that a sequence of events presaging the end times is already underway. Among the believers are pastors of some of the largest evangelical churches in America, who converged at Faith Central Bible Church in Inglewood in February to finalize plans to start 5 million new churches worldwide in 10 years. -- LA Times
From: various musings before the revolution | Registered: Jan 2005
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siren
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posted 24 June 2006 02:43 PM
It's not just Christians. quote: In Iran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has a far different vision. As mayor of Tehran in 2004, he spent millions on improvements to make the city more welcoming for the return of a Muslim messiah known as the Mahdi, according to a recent report by the American Foreign Policy Center, a nonpartisan think tank.To the majority of Shiites, the Mahdi was the last of the prophet Muhammad's true heirs, his 12 righteous descendants chosen by God to lead the faithful. Ahmadinejad hopes to welcome the Mahdi to Tehran within two years. Conversely, some Jewish groups in Jerusalem hope to clear the path for their own messiah by rebuilding a temple on a site now occupied by one of Islam's holiest shrines. Artisans have re-created priestly robes of white linen, gem-studded breastplates, silver trumpets and solid-gold menorahs to be used in the Holy Temple along with two 6½-ton marble cornerstones for the building's foundation. Then there is Clyde Lott, a Mississippi revivalist preacher and cattle rancher. He is trying to raise a unique herd of red heifers to satisfy an obscure injunction in the Book of Numbers: the sacrifice of a blemish-free red heifer for purification rituals needed to pave the way for the messiah.
Nuckin' futs and it's spreading like bird flu. Well, actually faster and further than bird flu.
From: Of course we could have world peace! But where would be the profit in that? | Registered: Nov 2004
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ceti
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posted 24 June 2006 06:15 PM
The sad thing is that there is a confluence of factors that is bringing us closer to a real end times scenario. Stephen Hawking is calling for the colonization of other worlds due to the mounting risk of human extinction. The Norwegians are building a doomsday vault. But encouraging the Apocalypse?? These groups don't realize we are already doing that by guzzling our gas, sprawling our cities, consuming resources, exterminating other species, etc... All at an exponentiating pace. The thing with the American evangelists is that by inversing the message of Christ in their bloodcurdling warmongering and the US taking on the visage of the Roman Empire occupying historic Babylon, the beast they are expecting is themselves! The Rastas know what's going on.
From: various musings before the revolution | Registered: Jan 2005
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siren
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posted 24 June 2006 09:16 PM
Re-reading the article, I'm shocked. And worried that the inconsistencies among Judaic, Christian and Muslim beliefs (that's the historical order) will seriously derail the endtimes. On the one hand we have: quote: Given end-times scenarios saying that non-believers will die before Jesus returns and that the antichrist will rule from Jerusalem's rebuilt Holy Temple Jews have mixed feelings about the outpouring of support Israel has been getting from evangelical organizations.
And then again: quote: Meanwhile, in what has become a spectacular annual routine, Jews hoping to rebuild the Holy Temple destroyed by the Romans in AD 70 attempt to haul the 6 1/2 -ton cornerstones by truck up to the Temple Mount, the site now occupied by the Dome of the Rock shrine. Each year, they are turned back by police.
So why are the Jews trying to re-build the temple? Are they building a palace for the anti-christ? Also: quote: Among those turned away is Gershon Solomon, spokesman for Jerusalem's Temple Institute. When the temple is built, he said, "Islam is over." "I'm grateful for all the wonderful Christian angels wanting to help us," Solomon added, acknowledging the political support from "Christians who are now Israel's best lobbyists in the United States." However, when asked to comment on the fate of non-Christians upon the Second Coming of Jesus, he said, "That's a very embarrassing question. What can I tell you? That's a very terrible Christian idea. "What kind of religion is it that expects another religion will be destroyed?"
Hmmm. So for Solomon, the second coming will destroy Islam (presumably a good thing) but the thought of it destroying Jews is outlandish. This man is as irony impaired as any soul in the Bush administration! He should apply for work with them. And what to think of the Muslims! quote: An opposing vision, invoked by Ahmadinejad in an address before the United Nations last year, suggests that the Imam Mahdi, a 9th century figure, will soon emerge from a well to conquer the world and convert everyone to Islam. "O mighty Lord," he said, "I pray to you to hasten the emergence of your last repository, the promised one, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace." At the appropriate time, according to Shiite tradition, the Mahdi will reappear and, along with Jesus, lead Muslims in a struggle to rid the world of corruption and establish justice.
No NO NOOO! The saviour descends from the fiery heavens; he doesn't climb out of a damn well (that sounds vaguely feminist). The agenda is to kill your faith opponents; not let Christian and Muslim join hands and walk in peace.
Finally -- get with the damn programme, Islam! It's war, fiery death, the anti-christ and destruction, NOT justice, peace and an end to corruption. Puleeeze. Get your head out of the well. Finally, this Christian American:
quote: Hirschfield said he prays every day for the coming of the Jewish messiah, but he too believes that God can't be hurried. "For me," he said, "the messiah is like the mechanical bunny at a racetrack: It always stays a little ahead of the runners but keeps the pace toward a redeemed world.
The messiah as the Energizer Bunny? At the racetrack? You might as well be a pastafarian and believe in noodley appendages and all. No, I can't see this working out well, at all, at all.
(disclaimer; I posted this on another board as well.)
From: Of course we could have world peace! But where would be the profit in that? | Registered: Nov 2004
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