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lagatta
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posted 16 January 2006 06:03 PM

Le streghe (the witches) are back with a vengeance in Italy, against Berlusconi and the Church hierarchy. Great slogans too: everything from get the clergy out of our knickers - we want Zapatero (the Spanish socialist PM, who has enacted progressive legislation on women's and LGBT rights) - we have got older but we keep getting angrier (siamo invecchiate, ma sempre più arrabbiate) (that is for us second-wavers, I guess)

And many more. They all rhyme and scan in Italian, of course. Will try to find something in English, but I guess all the social movement reporters are taken up with the lads protesting in Strasbourg.

Huge feminist rally in Milan

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skdadl
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posted 17 January 2006 10:48 AM

*memo to self: learn Italian*

Ah, but the knickers reference so pleases me. There is a certain Berlusconi-and-the-bloomers subplot that we need to keep afloat on babble, ever since that day just before the 2001 G8 summit in Genoa when Berlusconi visited the city and demanded that the ladies of Genoa take down their public washing-lines - after all: their underwear! ladies' underwear! on public display! Poor Silvio was so shocked!

I know what I'm carrying as a banner if I'm ever lucky enough to be a revolting woman in Italy while Silvio is still around.

Wimmin! Up with the bloomers! Fly your underwear with pride.

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rinne
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posted 17 January 2006 11:15 AM

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I know what I'm carrying as a banner if I'm ever lucky enough to be a revolting woman in Italy while Silvio is still around.

Let's not wait, let's be "revolting women" right now.

That is just fabulous, I love that they call themselves witches.

Do you know the story about Starhawk, speaking of witches, and Mathew Fox? This was before the Vatican kicked him out, he was bringing together different religious traditions and he invited Starhawk to be a part of this. Apparently the Vatican was fine with everyone but her, he was told that the witch must go.

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Fidel
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posted 18 January 2006 05:15 PM

Viva Italia!

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eau
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posted 18 January 2006 05:18 PM

Viva Italia indeed, lets keep our fingers crossed that while Italian women are shouting for emancipation from those who have kept them in their places for a couple of thousand years that Canadian women are not going through a Stepford process with the talk of a move to the right politically.

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jrootham
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posted 18 January 2006 05:33 PM

Well, the risk about a move to the right in the current election context is cognitive dissonance.

People have decided to turf the Liberals and they believe the only option is the Cons. They know the Cons are a bad idea but since they are forced into it they will defend it even more fiercely than if they believed it. It takes some pretty sophisticated internal cognitive understanding to avoid this. On the other hand, I think it will wear off fairly quickly, it should only be an issue in the election following this one.

Apologies for thread drift.

[ 18 January 2006: Message edited by: jrootham ]

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lagatta
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posted 18 January 2006 05:37 PM

I do wish we'd at least keep this on the FORUM topic of feminism - I don't mind if there is thread drift to talk about the women's movement here, in Chile or elsewhere besides Italy.

I guess Berlusconi and Papa Ratzi make enough groaners to rally the troops... Perhaps Harper or especially some of his more antediluvian MPs will soon put foot in mouth. Just hope the women's movement is able to respond.

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deBeauxOs
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posted 18 January 2006 06:48 PM

quote:
posted by lagatta: I do wish we'd at least keep this on the FORUM topic of feminism ...

Agreed, the above post is beyond drift, really more like an off-target projectile.

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... Perhaps Harper or ... antediluvian MPs will soon put foot in mouth.

You know, that may be the only silver lining so far, in the threatening cloud of CPC federal rule, that has been mentioned. A rather harsh wake-up call for generations of "I'm not a feminist butt-heads" but it could be rather effective.

[ 18 January 2006: Message edited by: deBeauxOs ]

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