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Topic: Survival sex and the triumph of democracy
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Frustrated Mess
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posted 31 December 2007 12:35 PM
quote: UNCHR the very “respected“ agency that deals with refugees (and I find myself spelling it out for you since you are so behind and ignorant in everything) calls it “Survival Sex.”I am sure this term turns you on – after all you have been trying it for years since your sexual liberation and it has not borne any fruits. Well maybe, just maybe, you think to yourself, it will bear fruit in Iraq. Well, it did. Pat yourselves on the back. “Democracy” and “survival sex.” What better combo can one wish for ? Survival sex is rampant not only inside Iraq but also outside. It happens in alley ways, around shrines, in dirty beds and in bars...Bars in Syria and Jordan. They are all waiting for Mr.Goodbar.
http://arabwomanblues.blogspot.com/
From: doom without the gloom | Registered: Feb 2005
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rural - Francesca
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posted 31 December 2007 12:44 PM
Survival sex exists in a rural community here in Canada too.Where women pay the rent, on their back. They live with abusive partners, because social service workers suggest 'getting a man' as a way making ends meet. It's the sexualization of women that promotes sexual currency.
From: the backyard | Registered: Dec 2007
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Frustrated Mess
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posted 31 December 2007 02:06 PM
I do. I see it also as an example of justified rage.How about this: quote: A score of young Iraqi women in tight, shimmering gowns shuffle across the nightclub dance floor under the hungry eyes of Gulf Arabs at nearby tables.The band blasts out Iraqi songs into the early hours as the watching youths join the dancing or summon girls to sit with them -- there is little pretence about what gets transacted at this neon-lit nightspot half an hour's drive north of Damascus. The dancers, some in their early teens, do not want to talk, but one said she had no other way to support her family. "My father was killed in Baghdad and our money is finished," muttered the dark-haired girl in a black and silver dress. The United Nations refugee agency UNHCR calls it "survival sex"
Maybe Reuters is more to your liking.
From: doom without the gloom | Registered: Feb 2005
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Stargazer
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posted 31 December 2007 06:40 PM
quote: Should she, really? How many Canadians are about to vote for the Conservative Party despite its horrendous politics of supporting the bombing of Lebanon and Afghanistan and the continuing occupation of Palestine and Iraq? Not to mention the treatment of minorities in Canada. At what point can we start deeming citizens responsible for the people they democratically elect and remain silent about in the context of an (almost) free press?
I agree with this. here is what she says in the same vein: quote: Some of them are as old your teenagers - with one major difference.They are forced into it whilst your teenagers produce videos of it on you tube, counting hits for the highest number of viewers. Your teenagers will seek therapy eventually. After several miscarriages, unwanted pregnancies, failed marriages and a string of boyfriends and probably end up in some rehab talking about it in a "meaningful sharing way.” Our teenagers, on the other hand, forced into it by YOU, will remain stigmatized for the rest of their lives and they can already kiss their future goodbye. They have no future. So tell me, is that not criminal ?
So tell me, does that not make you a complicit criminal people?
We are complicit. She has every right to be as angry as she is. Although I think she is right to feel this way, I think she is wrong in assuming that men in Iraq prior to what she calls democracy, were somehow free from sexual exploitation, rape and harassment of women. Men were doing this to women long before Americans came in to fuck up their world. Now it just much much worse, and the enemies are potentially all men.
From: Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist. | Registered: Jun 2004
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Boom Boom
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posted 31 December 2007 06:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by martin dufresne:- snip - Should she, really? How many Canadians are about to vote for the Conservative Party despite its horrendous politics of supporting the bombing of Lebanon and Afghanistan and the continuing occupation of Palestine and Iraq? Not to mention the treatment of minorities in Canada. At what point can we start deeming citizens responsible for the people they democratically elect and remain silent about in the context of an (almost) free press?
I would hazard a guess that the majority of those who vote Conservative or Liberal "support the troops" in Afganistan and all the other examples you gave (above). I think this is quite a conservative country, with pockets of progressives here and there. I remember the schools I went to in Ottawa in the 50s and 60s - of all the folks I knew back then, very, very few of them were progressive in any way shape or form. I think it's a bit of a miracle that the federal NDP does as well as it does, frankly.
From: Make the rich pay! | Registered: Dec 2004
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