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Topic: Gitmo suicides: US Newspeak reaches bizarre new levels
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siren
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posted 10 June 2006 09:55 PM
quote: "They are smart. They are creative, they are committed," Rear Admiral Harry Harris, commander of the Joint Task Force Guantanamo, told Reuters. "They have no regard for life, either ours or their own."Harris added that the suicides were "clearly a planned event, not a spontaneous event ... I believe this was not an act of desperation, but an act of ... warfare waged against us."
What can one say? We live next to a nation, some of whose nationals, are utterly demented, deluded and villainous. I wonder if our own little ray of god's own sunshine will join the world (including the UK)and condemn the Americans for Guantanamo. (Rhetorical question.) edited to censor American bashing. I wouldn't like to be judged as a nation, based on some of the pronouncements issuing forth from CDS Hillier.
[ 10 June 2006: Message edited by: siren ]
From: Of course we could have world peace! But where would be the profit in that? | Registered: Nov 2004
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B.L. Zeebub LLD
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posted 11 June 2006 04:47 PM
quote: ...from the Stalinist point of view, suicide was deprived of any subjective authenticity, it was simply instrumentalized, reduced to one of the "most cunning" forms of the counterrevolutionary plot - Molotov put it clearly on 4 December 1936: "Tomsky's suicide was a plot, a premeditated act. Tomsky had arranged, not with one person but with several people, to commit suicide and therefore to strike a blow once again at the Central Committee."7 And Stalin repeated it later at the same Central Committee plenum: "Here you see one of the ultimate and most cunning and easiest means by which one can spit at and deceive the party one last time before dying, before leaving the world. That, Comrade Bukharin, is the underlying reason for these last suicides."8
--- In Slavoj Zizek, When The Party Commits Suicide. [ 11 June 2006: Message edited by: B.L. Zeebub LLD ]
From: A Devil of an Advocate | Registered: Sep 2004
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Fidel
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posted 11 June 2006 07:20 PM
quote: "They are smart. They are creative, they are committed," Rear Admiral Harry Harris, commander of the Joint Task Force Guantanamo, told Reuters. "They have no regard for life, either ours or their own."
and compare with, quote: Your commie has no regard for human life, not even his own. And for this reason, men, I want to impress upon you the need for extreme watchfulness. The enemy may come individually, or he may come in strength. He may even come in the uniform of our own troops. But however he comes, we must stop him. We must not allow him to gain entrance to this base.... General Jack D. Ripper calling red alert over the P.A. system at Burpelson Air Force Base, comedy movie "Dr. Strangelove"
I say, does anyone think it possible that the three were beaten or tortured to death at Camp X-Ray or the other Gitmo gulag with no name, it's that secret?. No lawyers, no basic human rights, no problem.
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From: Viva La Revolución | Registered: Apr 2004
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otter
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posted 11 June 2006 08:07 PM
However, the fingers are pointing and the Bush admin has been leaving a blood trail in the water for a long time. It is probably time the real power brokers cut him lose anwyays. Chaney and his cronies are probably perfectly happy with the hundreds of billions they each have made [is that what the bilderbergs were up to this week?}. Run a general to two up the flagpole, sink an an ally or two that was too stupid or just too brutal to cover up the secret torturing in distant nations to muddy the water and BINGO. The ripples of all this will resonate for decades given the propensity for certain human beings to engage in unending resentments, hostilities and outright conflicts. GITMO could even join the ranks of notorious tourist destinations. Does this mean osama gets to keep the movie rights?
From: agent provocateur inc. | Registered: Feb 2006
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Naci_Sey
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posted 15 June 2006 01:34 PM
quote: Published on Thursday, June 15, 2006 by CommonDreams.org Ambassadorial Suicide Initiative by John Brown STATE DEPARTMENT TELEGRAM - SECRET TO: All Ambassadors FROM: Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs -- Karen Hughes THROUGH: The White House -- Mr. Karl Rove SUBJECT: Ambassadorial Suicide Initiative: Follow-up to Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Public Affairs Colleen Graffy’s New Initiative on Suicide as a Good PR Move REFERENCE: DAS Graffy interview with BBC, June, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5069230.stm SUMMARY: You are instructed to commit suicide soonest. End Summary. BACKGROUND Because of relentless jihadist propaganda, the respect of the world toward the United States -- that is, the number of Americans that will vote Republican in the November Congressional elections -- has diminished immensely in recent months. Al Qaeda operatives, using venues ranging from Mosques to the internet, have damaged the honor of our country throughout the world -- that is, Republicans’ electability among American voters. The terrorists’ latest tactic has been for their infiltrators to commit suicide in the U.S. government facility in Guantanamo, Cuba, where they are housed, fed, and protected, in the best Christian/American traditions, from the Geneva Conventions. So, in order to win the struggle against violent extremism, we have no choice but to use Bin Laden’s own methods, just as we did against the Soviets’ propaganda during the Cold War. SPECIFIC INSTRUCTIONS Your suicide must be carefully planned. We strongly recommend the following steps, reluctantly recognizing that local conditions may require minor variations in these instructions. If you feel you must introduce changes to these orders, please obtain the appropriate authorization from the Department’s Special Task Force for Ambassadorial Suicide (STFAS). Do not call (even through a secure line) or e-mail; send a cable through official channels, as you survivors’ benefits may depend on the extent to which you have followed the Department’s obligatory recommendations. Do not, repeat do not, expect to outlive your suicide. NOTE: Your funeral expenses will not be covered by the Department at this time of budgetary constraints...
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From: BC | Registered: Apr 2006
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