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Topic: US & CIA operations against Venezuela and Bolivia
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N.Beltov
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posted 02 December 2007 01:24 PM
Before, during and after the referendum ... the CIA is carrying out subversive operations against both Venezuela AND Bolivia. Uncle Sam will stop at virtually nothing to prevent change.Here, Fidel Castro writes about A People Under Fire and notes his cautions to Hugo Chavez to beware of assassination attempts. Fidel should know. The Yanquis have tried to kill him around 650 times. quote: The most sophisticated media developed by technology, employed to kill human beings and to subjugate or exterminate the peoples; the mass implantation of conditioned reflexes of the mind; consumerism; and all available resources are being used today against the Venezuelan people in an attempt to shred apart the ideas of Bolivar and Martí.The empire has created conditions conducive to violence and internal conflicts. I spoke with Chávez very seriously during his most recent visit on November 21 about the risk of assassination for anyone who is constantly exposed in open vehicles.
Castro: A people under fire In Bolivia, the Bush administration ... quote: is also jumping into the fray. Earlier this year Morales denounced that US backed agencies and non-governmental organizations that are providing direct support to right-wing political parties and allied institutions, ordering that all such funding would now be channeled directly through the government. Then at the recent Ibero-American Summit in Santiago Chile, Morales declared that “while we are trying to change Bolivia…small groups of the oligarchy are conspiring in alliance with the representative of the government of the United States,” referring to the US ambassador to Bolivia, Philip Goldberg. To support his claims a photo was shown of Goldberg in Santa Cruz with a leading right wing business magnet and a well known Colombian narco-trafficker, who had been detained by the local police.On November 15, the US State Department spokesperson, Sean McCormick, responded by demanding that Morales stop launching “false” and “unfounded” allegations of conspiracy by the ambassador. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice called the Bolivian ambassador in Washington to deliver the same tough message.
Final Battle in Bolivia 2004: CIA and Venezuela .... shows White House knowledge of, not to say participation in, the planned coup d'etat of 2002. CIA's attempts to destabilize Venezuela La Prensa: a model for RCTV. Yup. That La Prensa. In Nicaragua. This last article has EXTENSIVE footnotes. CIA Operation "Pliers" uncovered in Venezuela
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N.Beltov
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posted 02 December 2007 01:57 PM
Actually, this is a great subject for a thread and I can't imagine why it doesn't exist already. So, here are some more general links outside of the recent operations against Venezuela and Boliva...Democracy Now: Prof McCoy on the history of CIA interrogation Timeline of CIA atrocities There really is a GLUT of information here. Where to begin? The CIA: a brief history Who am I kidding? I could devote the rest of my life to exposing the CIA and its nefarious activities and barely scratch the surface. But maybe this thread could be a modest start. After all, given the obsequious relationship between the current regime in Ottawa and its American masters, who knows what aspects of Canadian policy are merely rubber stamp versions of policy made elsewhere?
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jeff house
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posted 02 December 2007 02:25 PM
Again, ha ha.Obviously, there are lots of terrible things done by the CIA. As a matter of fact, I've been denouncing them since before you fellows were born. I have many times denounced the School of the Americas as a school for teaching torture. And for sure there is a possibility of CIA interference in any country. There is also the possibility of crying wolf in order to disarm criticism. Just as Al Quaeda really did attack the US, the American really did quietly support a coup against Chavez. But in neither case does the reality justify a dictatorship in Venezuela. The Chavez group in Venezuela, as the Bush bunch did in the US, are TODAY trying to stampede voters to hand out dictatorial power to Chavez. His little helpers in Canada just pass down the propaganda crap, and they hope someone will actually believe it. There is no CIA coup in Venezuela today; there IS an attempt to grab greater power, dishonestly.
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N.Beltov
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posted 02 December 2007 07:02 PM
CIA operation "Pincer" specifically involve the creation of food shortages: quote: The ultimate objective of 'Operation Pincer' is to seize a territorial or institutional base with the 'massive support' of the defeated electoral minority within three or four days (presumably after the elections though this is not clear. JP) backed by an uprising by oppositionist military officers principally in the National Guard. .... Apart from the deep involvement of the US, the primary organization of the Venezuelan business elite (FEDECAMARAS), as well as all the major private television, radio and newspaper outlets have been engaged in a campaign of fear and intimidation campaign. Food producers, wholesale and retail distributors have created artificial shortages of basic food items and have provoked large scale capital flight to sow chaos in the hopes of reaping a 'no' vote.
The CIA Memo [ 02 December 2007: Message edited by: N.Beltov ]
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Peppered Pothead
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posted 03 December 2007 12:44 AM
So we have at least 2 posters who blindly tolerate the Trillion dollar self-appointed international exterminator of 'undesirable' ideologies and their subsequent movements. Oh well, that's better than 200.Will the rampaging imperialism ever stop ? Will leftist movements ever be given the right to be free from the initiation of foreign policy force ? Probably not, since the leftists want to open the floodgates of elitist channels of wealth, and let the poor share in the wealth which has been horded for centuries. The brutal impoverishment can instead be addressed by private charities, foodbanks, and trickle down theories of economics.
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Fidel
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posted 03 December 2007 05:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Michelle: In fact, I was quite surprised, considering that they're usually thrilled to back guys like him.
Not in the least. I think Putin is of a calibre on par with the international corporate cabal which has tried to put grabs on Russian energy and mineral resources since the U.S. propped up Yeltsin during perestroika. The empire is angry with Putin since 2003 when he put a stop to Khodorkovsky's and oligarchs attempts to buy votes in Russian parliament(aka bribes) The oligarchs were trying to slide out of paying taxes on oil and other wealth, which Putin and company say are perfectly in-line with free market mechanisms for their new tax regime on natural resource exports. They are trying to copy Norway's model for Petroleum Fund, which is a pretty fair example if you ask me. Compare that with the decade of corruption to the extreme that was perestroika, and Canada's situation with Kyoto and massive energy exports of greenhouse gas-producing fossil fuels to the largest economy and sovereign source of pollution in the world, the U.S. By next month, Russia's oil stabilization fund will be worth more than Canada's privatized CPP investment fund and Alberta's Heritage(slush) Fund combined. If anyone's noticed, municipalities across this Northern Puerto Rico are having a difficult time funding new hospitals and other infrastructure, while at the same time, millions of barrels of oil and cubic metres of natural gas flow south every day. Add to that the millions of watts of hydro-electric generating power that Canada sends to the U.S. 24-7, and Canada looks a lot like a weak northern colony taking it on the chin for the sake of U.S. economic interests. Our stoogeocrats are in a sort of a bind. They don't really want to tax oil and gas or raise per barrel oil royalties to anything close to socialist Norway's level, or even what the state of Alaska reaps from big energy companies. Because then a democratically elected government in Canada would be awash in oil money. What would they do with it? And never mind that raising taxes to prevent scarcity (or heaven forbid, to reduce overall CO2 emissions in the spirit of Kyoto and in interests of global environment), it all goes against the grain of our political and economic ideology. I'll be blunt. I think it's possible, and even highly probable, that the hits put on news journalists in Russia could have been ordered by both the Russian FSB as well as the American CIA. You can ask why, and then I couldn't explain it for the life of me. Observe the Canadian and Italian and other international news journalists murdered in Iraq since U.S. military operation shock and appall over Baghdad. Extreme ways are back again.
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N.Beltov
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posted 03 December 2007 11:47 AM
Blogger Chris Carlson, author of Gringo in Venezuela, has a number of articles about Venezuela and the U.S. role there over time. We have:Is the CIA trying to kill Hugo Chávez? quote: "I want to kill that son of a bitch," said the Capitan of the Venezuelan National Guard, Thomas Guillen in a recorded telephone call with his wife.
This was in March of this year. General Guillén graduated from The School of the Americas, renamed the Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation in 2001, the infamous U.S. combat training school, in 1967. Wait, there's much more. School of the Americas WATCH: bio of General Guillen Database of graduates of the school of death, Yanqui-style. School of the Americas Watch: add this link to your HATE WATCH sites. The History of democracy prevention in Venezuela, Part 2 RCTV and the CIA Setting the Stage for Turmoil in Caracas The well-footnoted articles by Carlson includes all sorts of substantiation and further links. [ 03 December 2007: Message edited by: N.Beltov ]
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N.Beltov
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posted 03 December 2007 08:29 PM
quote: ChicagoLD:So Guillen graduated from the SOA while Chavez was President of Venezuela?
Um, no. Guillen graduated in 1967, 40 years ago. quote: Do you guys really believe that if the SOA shuts down that other countries won't fill that void?
I'm not sure what argument you're making here. If the US didn't terrorize Latin America then someone else would? Isn't this sort of conduct and training worth exposing no matter WHO does it? A-Ten-hut!What happened anyway? Did you drop your moral compass on the way to boot camp?
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