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fern hill
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posted 04 February 2006 09:49 AM      Profile for fern hill        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From CTV

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Bride-to-be injured by concrete thrown at car

Nadia McLean, 28, suffered head and facial injuries.
Police say the concrete was thrown near Simcoe Street in Oshawa.
Nadia McLean before the incident.
CTV.ca News Staff
 
Updated: Fri. Feb. 3 2006 6:51 PM ET
A bride-to-be faces months of reconstructive surgery after suffering facial injuries from a chunk of concrete that smashed into her face after being thrown from a Highway 401 overpass near Oshawa, Ontario.

End of quote.

The Star and the Sun also saw fit to put "bride to be" in their headlines. The Globe had "woman", CBC had "driver".

WTF difference does it make? This kind of oh-so-casual, unconscious sexism makes me see red.

Go to the link, They have fucking "before" and "after" pictures of this woman!!!!


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Andy (Andrew)
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posted 04 February 2006 10:06 AM      Profile for Andy (Andrew)   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
FernHill I saw her interview on TV where she referred to her brother as "her hero" for taking over the wheel of the car, said she was "concerned about her looks" and talked about her upcoming wedding including the date.

Maybe their story talks about the things she brought up as important to her and are trying to personalize the story. It makes her a human being and not "the driver" of some anonymous car.


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posted 04 February 2006 10:10 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The implication being that it is so much worse to be assaulted and almost killed and to have your face smashed in if you are young and pretty and marriageable? That's the part you don't like, fern hill?

Yeah. I agree, but it seems that the msm just can't help themselves. The bride-to-be part is, for them, "human interest" at least - even the Globe story ran some distance on that angle.

I will admit that I am a bit relieved to see the "after" photo. From Nadia's brother's words, I was imagining something much worse, so it is encouraging to see that good reconstruction was possible. My heart aches for her and what she has had to go through, but the good surgery is a thing to applaud.


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skdadl
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posted 04 February 2006 10:11 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Sorry, Andy - we cross-posted.
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fern hill
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posted 04 February 2006 10:12 AM      Profile for fern hill        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Andy (Andrew):

Maybe their story talks about the things she brought up as important to her and are trying to personalize the story. It makes her a human being and not "the driver" of some anonymous car.


So you think it's NOT sexist to put "bride-to-be" in the headline and run "before and after" pictures of her?

Let's try this test: Imagine a man about to be married was hurt in this way. Would the headline read "Groom-to-be"? Would sympathy be elicted for him by running a story about his concern for his looks?

Sheesh. *head banging emoticon*


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skdadl
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posted 04 February 2006 10:18 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You need this one, fern hill?


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lagatta
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posted 04 February 2006 10:34 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It certainly struck me as sexist (and horrifying) when I read the story - moreover it did not seem to grasp the important concept of personal integrity - whatever one's age, sex or level of beauty.

But it would be silly to deny that a woman's looks are by-and-large more important than a man's, for career purposes, and at least in the case of heterosexuals, to have value on the meet market. Always a bit touchy to deal with "what is" and "what should be", especially in short and quickly-written news media.


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posted 04 February 2006 10:48 AM      Profile for Stargazer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm just going to guess if the man in question were as attractive as this young woman, then yes, they would have put up before and after photos. Looks sell. Male or female.
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kimmy
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posted 04 February 2006 03:04 PM      Profile for kimmy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
When I lived in Victoria, there was a news-item from up-island when somebody dropped a rock off an overpass onto the highway near Nanaimo; the victim was left seriously injured. The victim was an average-looking man; they showed "before" pictures, and pictures of him unconscious in his hospital bed, breathing through tubes.

A few years ago here in Edmonton, a schoolbus driver was killed late on "grad night" near a highschool when somebody dropped a landscaping rock off an overpass onto the freeway. The driver was, I believe, returning the bus to the storage lot after dropping off a load of kids from a "safe grad" party. They showed "before" pictures as well, he was an elderly gentleman.

When I lived in Ottawa, I was riding in the #95 bus on the Transitway one day when somebody threw a chunk of concrete off an overpass. I was just showered with some safety glass, but the elderly woman 2 seats ahead of me was struck in the hand and cut quite badly.

I simply can't imagine why some people think this sort of thing is "funny". It simply isn't. I would hope that printing big graphic photos of the tragic aftermath of these stunts will make people aware of how colossally stupid it is to do something like this. "Bride-to-be"? Fine with me, if personalizing the incident can help make the knucklehead responsible realize the consequences of his stupidity.


-kimmy
{if I saw somebody trying to drop a rock onto a car, I'd tear them to pieces. I'd kick them in the groin again and again until there was no medical possibility of them ever reproducing.}


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posted 04 February 2006 03:21 PM      Profile for The Evil Twin     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I'm just going to guess if the man in question were as attractive as this young woman, then yes, they would have put up before and after photos. Looks sell. Male or female.

Yup. Looks, money, race, class all contribute to the amount of media sympathy a story elicits. Does anyone honestly believe a homeless hitchhiker being hit by the same brick would attract this much attention?


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posted 04 February 2006 03:27 PM      Profile for gunnar gunnarson     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Absolutely not. That's why when sweet white middle class girls get killed in urban shootouts the story gets splattered all over the front page of all four newspapers, but when black kids are shooting each other the story gets shrugged off or buried in the briefs on page 17.

Racism? Sexism? Classism? Heaven forfend.


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jas
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posted 07 February 2006 02:21 PM      Profile for jas     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had no idea that concrete-chunk-throwing was such a popular pastime - ? - Where does one find concrete chunks to throw? And do they haul them to freeway overpasses for the express purpose of dropping on cars below?
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nonsuch
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posted 07 February 2006 02:39 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The Star and the Sun also saw fit to put "bride to be" in their headlines. The Globe had "woman", CBC had "driver".

WTF difference does it make? This kind of oh-so-casual, unconscious sexism makes me see red.



I hear you.
What always makes me see red, and they can never seem to resist, is: "Mother-of-three killed in..."
It's very much like putting female victims [of accident, homicide or other tragedy] in the category of reproductive function.
To be fair, they do sometimes mention how many children a male victim had (always, if he was a policeman) and do sometimes mention the occupation of a female victim (always, if she had a profession like lawyer or doctor).
(I don't think it's intentional: they just want to milk the pathos.)

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nonsuch
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posted 07 February 2006 02:43 PM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Where does one find concrete chunks to throw?

Road and sewage re-construction sites.

quote:
And do they haul them to freeway overpasses for the express purpose of dropping on cars below?

Yes.
So, now you know just how sick our society is becoming.

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kimmy
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posted 07 February 2006 08:37 PM      Profile for kimmy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jas:
I had no idea that concrete-chunk-throwing was such a popular pastime - ? - Where does one find concrete chunks to throw? And do they haul them to freeway overpasses for the express purpose of dropping on cars below?

In the Edmonton homicide, not only did the killers haul a large rock from the garden of a nearby home onto the overpass, they also planned it thoroughly enough to bring bolt-cutters to cut a big hole in the chain-link fence that covers the overpass.

-k


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JPG
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posted 08 February 2006 01:23 AM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I'd kick them in the groin again and again until there was no medical possibility of them ever reproducing

I'm sorry, but are depictions of violence specifically against men okay here? And plus, there was nothing in the article about male suspects. So why go after the balls, Kimmy?


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posted 08 February 2006 02:21 AM      Profile for kimmy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JPG:

I'm sorry, but are depictions of violence specifically against men okay here? And plus, there was nothing in the article about male suspects. So why go after the balls, Kimmy?


I didn't say balls. I said groin. That's gender-neutral, isn't it? I would imagine that sufficient kicking could render a female unable to reproduce as well, or at least leave her unwilling to want to try for a long long time.

Mostly I was just really upset at being reminded of the 3 incidents I mentioned, and got a little overzealous. Sorry if that was too graphic for you.

-k
{still furious that people have been injured, maimed, and killed for the sake of these moronic pranks. }


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Police speculate the culprit may have been walking home at the time. Woolley believes the person responsible may have bragged about the incident to a friend.

That is the most sickening thought to me.


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posted 08 February 2006 09:57 AM      Profile for JPG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Sorry if that was too graphic for you.

That's OK. Although every time I picture someone going for the gnads i cringe .


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