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sistersanta
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posted 11 February 2003 02:34 PM      Profile for sistersanta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was surprised to readthat 4 out of 6 current recall campaigns in BC are against women.

Is this a total coincidence? I am not suggesting the groups organising the recalls are targetting women and I don't want to defend any BC Liberal MLAs, but why is this happening?

Is it easier to collect signatures against women politicians because of a negative perception of women not being "cut out for the job"?

We've alwyas said how much harder it is for women to get elected, and now it looks like it's easier for women to get recalled!


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kropotkin1951
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posted 11 February 2003 05:35 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

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kropotkin1951
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posted 11 February 2003 05:36 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Maybe you should wait for the final total since there are many more recall campaigns in the process of getting off the ground.

I don't care what gender the Liberals are they are a disaster and should all be recalled.

In statistics a sample of 6 of 77 would not be considered indicitive of anything.

And if these Liberal women are in the process of attacking working women in health care and child care why should their gender matter. This government is insisting that the HEU workers I think they are about 80% female) go from a living wage to a poverty level wage and your concerned about anti-female bias in recalling them?

They also have cut funding to some inclusive daycare programs run by developmental disability advocacy groups because they had the audacity to pay women more than $12 an hour.

RECALL THEM ALL REGARDLESS OF GENDER


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meades
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posted 11 February 2003 06:16 PM      Profile for meades     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think you're being a bit needlessly harsh on sistersanta, there, Kropotkin. She's not asking anyone to vote liberal.

This is a bit troubling. I think that the NDP and Greens, in order to combat further gender imparity in the legislature, should nominate many if not all women in these ridings. I'm sure there are superb candidates out there.

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kropotkin1951
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posted 11 February 2003 06:31 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My apologies for being needlessly harsh but I live in BC and these assholes are stripping us citizens of so much it is very difficult to digest without constant regurgitation. Okay I meant to say the Liberals in BC make me puke.

Sorry Sistersanta it was not personally directed at you but personally directed at the nasty Liberals.

This government has stripped away human rights legislation and attacked women directly in a host of other areas so again.

RECALL THEM ALL REGARDLESS OF GENDER


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kropotkin1951
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posted 13 February 2003 12:34 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This morning I awoke to the Premier specifically targeting the women in HEU as the problem with our healthcare. According to him they make too much money and we can't sustain those wages.

What people on this forum should know is that one of the main ingredients in their wages becoming so high is that a couple of rounds ago they bargained primarily for equal work for equal pay and not across the board increases. This strategy led to all those womens jobs getting paid at the an appropriate rate compared to male jobs in the hospitals. Every feminist knows that womens work is undervalued and now when a group makes significant advances on behalf of its women workers they are vilified as the reason our health care system is unsustainable.

My question given this thread is why elect women who will attack other women for having the audacity to demand equal pay for equal work.

RECALL THEM ALL BEFORE THEY COME FOR YOUR MOTHER, SISTER OR DAUGHTER NEXT


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Jacob Two-Two
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posted 14 February 2003 01:53 AM      Profile for Jacob Two-Two     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I think the recall people are just starting with the most sure things. There may be a voter bias that would carry through to be a recall bias from necessity. But I'm just guessing.
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kropotkin1951
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posted 14 February 2003 07:45 PM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That could be but when you think about it a woman who will betray tens of thousands of worrking women at the forefront of pay equity is not going to get many votes from thoughtful women. Add that fact to the bias that a certain percentage of men have. And then add the men like me who would recall them all regardless of gender and it does sound like it has potential.

I suspect that it is more likely a statistical anomally based on where there are actual people willing to get invovled in a major political campaign. Getting those signatures is much like trying to get elected and requires many volunteers to work their butts off weeks.


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CocaCola58204
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posted 15 February 2003 04:39 PM      Profile for CocaCola58204     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Forgive my lack of knowledge about BC Politcs, but what happens in a recall campaign?

If the perosn is sucessfully recalled (by poplaur vote?), is a special election called in that riding?


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kropotkin1951
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posted 16 February 2003 02:09 AM      Profile for kropotkin1951   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If they get enough valid signatures. Something ridiculous like 40% of the voters, then the MLA is recalled and an election is held.
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