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lagatta
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posted 20 June 2003 01:59 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I was walking round the Jean-Talon market early yesterday morning - it is open by dawn, and I like going there when I have time, before getting down to work. Finally, despite all the rain and cool temperatures, we have some fresh local produce - lettuces, spinach, little new onions and baby garlic, still some asparagus, the first strawberries, very late this year. Lovely smells.

Foodie thoughts. A friend who does the "Jewish Digest" show on the community Radio-Centre ville station received a sumptuous gift of THREE books on Sephardic cuisines. They each cost about $40 US, so out of range for us... Knowing my fondness for Mediterranean cuisines, he lent me these: Cucina ebraica, about Italy, Sephardic flavors (US spelling, sic), and Saffron Shores (about the Maghreb and other Arab lands, all by Joyce Goldstein. I liked these little chicken meatballs - there are chicken meatballs in all 3 books but the spices in these appealed to me most, and they are poached, not fried, so it is lighter than most meatball recipes. A Moroccan friend in Paris (of Berber background) made similar tiny meatballs from lamb, also cooked in diluted tomato sauce. I disagree with the author of this recipe, Joyce Goldstein, that these are just for a "weeknight" recipe, as such tiny meatballs are fussy to make and if you do use real saffron, it isn't cheap (will cost almost as much as the ground chicken...). I love this type of tagine, alongside various chopped-vegetable salads.

These books have a lot of good vegetarian recipes too, and I'll certainly post one eventually as soon as I've made it myself.


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The Bride's Chicken Meatballs

Chicken meatballs can be a wonderful weeknight supper, served with rice or couscous. In Tunisia, Daisy Taieb's family served chicken meatballs served with crushed dried rose petsl to break the fast after Yom Kippur. If you can't find dried rose petals, the chicken balls will still be delicious

Serves 6 to 8

for the meatballs:

2 lbs ground chicken
4 small onions, finely chopped
1/4 cup chopped fresh flat-leaf parsley
6 tbsps chopped fresh coriander (cilantro)
2 cloves garlic, minced
4 1-inch-thick slices country bread, soaked in water and squeezed dry
3 tsp crushed dried unsprayed rose petals (optional)
freshly grated nutmeg to taste
good pinch of ground turmeric or saffron threads, crushed
2 tsp salt
freshly ground black pepper to taste
2 eggs

for the sauce:

2 tbsp olive oil
4 large tomatoes, peeled, seeded and chopped
2 cloves garlic, minced
1 bay leaf
salt and freshly ground black pepper to taste
1/2 teaspoon ground turmeric, or 1/4 teaspoon saffron threads, crushed

To make the meatballs, in a large bowl, combine all the ingredients and knead the mixture until it holds together. Form one meatball and poach it in lightly salted water to test the seasoning. Adjust as necessary. Form the mixture into walnut-sized balls.

To make the sauce, in a large sauté pan or skillet, heat the oil over medium-high heat. Add all the remaining ingredients and about 2 inches of water. Cook for 5 minutes. Add the chicken balls, cover and poach until cooked through, 15 to 20 minutes. If you like, brown them under the broiler or in a hot oven. Seve with couscous alongside or in the centre of a platter, surrounded by the meatballs.


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posted 20 June 2003 02:14 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dear lagatta, I was thinking myself of starting one of these threads yesterday and today!

I've been on a roti kick lately. Vegetable-filled rotis, with spinach, chick peas, and potatoes. But they're way too expensive to buy regularly, and I don't know how to make them!

Mohamad Khan gave me a cursory "recipe" which he had double-checked with his mom, and that sounds about right to me. But I'm one of those people who learns much better by watching and doing when it comes to cooking. So this weekend, while visiting Kingston, I'm going to go to see whether a Jamaican-Canadian friend of mine can show me how. She says she hasn't done it in years, but I'm going to bribe her with homemade jarred mango-scotch-pepper sauce from the roti shop around the corner.

In the meantime, I'm boiling a chopped potato as I type, in order to make some kind of a spinach-tomato-potato-onion stirfry to put on arepas - which a Venezuelan friend taught me how to make years ago, and which I haven't had the nerve to try making myself until three weeks ago. (They turned out perfectly.)

You know, impromptu "peasant food" is really great when you're cooking for one. You can make a small amount of it. But even if I only use one of each type of vegetable when I'm doing something like this, I still always have leftovers. Luckily I'm not the type of person who hates to have the same thing twice in a row.

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posted 20 June 2003 02:31 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, and a lot of those recipes aren't very expensive, or terribly complicated to make once one gets the hang of them. I love rotis too.

The only expensive thing in the recipe I posted is the saffron, and a little packet of saffron does do for a few recipes. I love saffron - I have friends from Morocco who use it a lot - but it is expensive. Obviously it is common in Persian food as well...

I wanted to start up a new foodie thread with fresh smells and taste of late spring/early summer, but the weather hasn't been co-operating much . But on the other hand, everything is nice and green.

This is a bit fussy to make, so not family weeknight food (unless one is a gourmet chef). However, children usually do like the little meatballs.


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posted 20 June 2003 02:41 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I made gazpacho last night -- too hot for a cooked meal, so we had that, cold cuts, cheese and some potato salad from the deli. Also got a baguette from the bakery around the corner and had that, dipped in olive oil and balsamic vinegar. A nice, light summer meal.

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posted 20 June 2003 02:46 PM      Profile for Rebecca West     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What a wonderful recipe - I've printed it out and will try it as soon as I can do a market shop (as opposed to a run to the local supermarket, which has a really limited selection).
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posted 20 June 2003 02:50 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh, I was also tempted by a package of fresh, ripe, Ontario strawberries while walking home from the streetcar stop today. So of course when I took the strawberries to the cash, I just couldn't bring them home without getting a tiny carton of whipping cream to go with it.

I am eating like a queen today.


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posted 20 June 2003 03:59 PM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I've been on a roti kick lately. Vegetable-filled rotis, with spinach, chick peas, and potatoes. But they're way too expensive to buy regularly, and I don't know how to make them!

Are you living in Toronto now? There used to be a little roti and Carribean food "joint" on Dundas just beside the Eaton Centre, before that area got bulldozed, and they made a huge spinach roti that was yours for about $3. Of course it's not spinach in there, it's callaloo or some other leafy green, but all the same it's fantastic, no? They also made good potato balls (2 for a buck) and would give you a huge container of rice and peas, with the "gravy" of your choice slather on for a dollar. I'm a bit of a knife-and-fork artist, so if I can get full for a couple of bucks, I'm a fan!

I believe the place migrated west on Dundas & is still serving up cheap rotis, including an even cheaper (but not smaller) potato-only, for about $2.50 (Coconut Grove 183 Dundas W Toronto)

On the topic of chicken balls: lately I've been enjoying fish balls, made much the same way, then stir-fried in with broccoli, spring onions, etc. the nice thing is you can use any inexpensive whitefish, and you can use the poaching water as the stock in the stirfry. I've tried it with Tilapia & found them a bit tough, but made them with some cheap Red Snapper fillets and they were so light and tender that I couldn't believe they survived the wok!


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posted 21 June 2003 12:03 AM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Roti seems very easy to make. I'm going to give them a try.
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posted 21 June 2003 12:26 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Do you guys really bother to peel and seed your tomatoes when you cook? I mean, why?

I stopped peeling everything years ago -- I figure that peel is at least good fibre, and in the case of potatoes, the most nourishing part of the veggie. I realize that many fruits and veggies may have awful things on their peels, so I scrub -- so maybe that's not good enough, but then, if the chemicals have penetrated the peels, they've gone even farther, so why worry?

If I were making vichyssoise (like, yeah, sure) I would peel the potatoes. But what have we got against tomato skins? Even Romas, once they're cooked, are not too tough ...


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posted 21 June 2003 12:33 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm with skdadl, I don't peel tomatoes any more. If for some reason perfection were called for in a recipe, I might peel, seed and even puree in a food mill. Cooking for myself or intimates however, peel can remain in.

Clersal, roti -- the bread part -- is very hard to make. The dough contains both wheat and chickpea flour and is layered and rolled in a certain way, slathered with copious ghee or vegetable oil to be sure. If you got a simple recipe for the curry filling, you could probably make it. But the shell requires training and practice.


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posted 21 June 2003 12:47 PM      Profile for Mohamad Khan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
roti is very easy to make. there's no need for any chickpea flour, ghee or oil -- at least, we don't use any. just whole wheat flour, water, and some salt. nothing could be simpler than making the roti out of this dough (aaTaa). if i can do it, it must be easy.
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posted 21 June 2003 01:02 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is the recipe I found:3 cups plain while flour
¼ cup oil
2 teaspoons butter
other hot water

Method
Mix the flour and oil in a bowl. Add water and knead the dough until it becomes supple and elastic.
Form balls about five centimetres in diameter.
On a flat surface, flatten the ball, sprinkle flour and roll until you have a circular roti about the size of a small dinner plate. Sprinkle flour while you are rolling to stop the roti from sticking to the surface.
Heat a heavy saucepan or griddle. Place the roti on the griddle and cook one side till small bubbles appear. Usually takes about 15 to 20 seconds. Turn the roti and cook similarly on the other side. Keep checking the underside of the roti so that it doesn't burn. Cook for approximately one minute.
Sounds easy no?
I don't peel tomatoes either unless they have been frozen.

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posted 21 June 2003 01:12 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Hee hee, rasmus and MK.

It's just like seeking a second medical opinion, isn't it, clersal?


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posted 21 June 2003 01:20 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I will add salt, use whole wheat flour and olive oil.
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posted 21 June 2003 03:33 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
MK and others. The "roti" used in West Indian roti is actually a kind of dalpuri, or "dhalpuri" as I think it is spelt in the West Indies, which must contain chickpea flour. "Roti" is not the generic name for flatbread in the West Indies.

One roti shop that used to have fantastic roti before it started catering to a mostly white clientele, Bacchus Roti on Queen, does make whole wheat, low fat roti that is rolled in an industrial pizza dough roller, and is akin to Indian roti (phulka, chapati). However, the owners themselves don't eat this roti, as they admitted to me. And neither do I.


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posted 21 June 2003 03:46 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Dahl Puri Roti

Ingredients for Dahl Filling:
1 cup yellow split peas
1 tsp cumin seed
1 tsp curry powder
2 cloves garlic, finely sliced
1 tbs vegetable oil
2 cups water
salt

Ingredients for Roti:

1.5 kg plain flour
6 tsp baking powder
1 tsp salt500g butter
500 ml waterVegetable
oil as needed

Preparation Method for Dahl filling: Heat vegetable oil in a pan. Add cumin seed and garlic. Cook until garlic is golden brown.Add water with salt to taste, and bring to a boilAdd curry powder, and stir well.Add yellow split peas, and allow to simmer until completely soft.Drain water from peas. Allow to cool, then mash completely with a fork.

Preparation Method for Roti: Sift together the flour, baking powder and salt.Add butter, and crumble into mixture.Add water slowly, and mix to form a dough.Knead, and let stand for 30 minutes.Knead again, and then divide into 12 small balls. Make a deep hole in the ball through the middle and place some of the dhal mixture inside. Close the opening of the hole by pinching the top.Roll the ball in flour.On a floured board, roll out each ball, as thinly as possible using a rolling pin. Spread some vegetable oil with a brush onto a a large flat griddle, or frying pan, heat on a medium until hot.Place each individual roti on the pan, and cook for about one and a half minutes on each side, coating each side with a little vegetable oil as it cooks.Remove and drain on paper towels

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posted 21 June 2003 03:47 PM      Profile for rasmus   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
dhal puri roti


For the Roti you will need:

3 cups flour
1 tbsp oil
1 tsp salt
1 ½ cups boiled water
Salted butter for frying

Mix ingredients in a large bowl until soft. Knead the dough and add flour or water if hard. With hands, form into balls the size of a small fist. Roll flat with a pin until ¼-inch thick. The desired appearance should be like pizza dough.

For the Dhal Puri you will need:

1 ½ cups boiled split peas
1-2 tbsp cumin seed
3 tbsp minced onion
1 clove garlic, minced
½ tsp salt
Small piece of saffron

Soak the peas overnight and boil with saffron until soft. Toast the cumin seeds in a pan and combine with the onion, garlic, salt, and peas in a large bowl. Grind well until combined.

To make the final product, place 2-3 tablespoons of the Dhal Puri in the center of the rolled Roti. Form the dough into balls and roll again with the same thickness as before. Grease a frying pan with a generous amount of salted butter and fry on high heat. Turn over often and butter both sides until golden brown.


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Am I right in thinking that ghee is clarified butter? That is: one brings the butter to a simmer, and then skims off the froth (which will be both salt and any other impurities)?
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posted 21 June 2003 04:08 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Some lovely day this summer, yet to be determined, for reasons too complicated to explain here, skdadl will invite all roti enthusiasts to come and make roti in her kitchen. And skdadl will just sit back, feet up, and be judge.

It will be a lovely day.


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posted 21 June 2003 04:27 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ghee is indeed clarified butter. I've seen "vegetable ghee", which must be to real ghee as marg is to butter.

Rasmus, I don't see any chickpea or other pea flour in your recipe. Once again, easy to find in South Asian, Middle Eastern and other Mediterranean shops (Italians and Niçois also make a galette like pizza from chickpea flour - it is high in protein). I'd think even a big supermarket (like Loblaws etc) that has an "ethnic" clientele would carry chickpea flour nowadays.

Was it Mr Mcgoo who posted the fish balls? But no recipe - even though it is a simple recipe you should include the proportions, so they don't fall apart. Is that the same thing as Acras de morue, in the French islands?


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posted 21 June 2003 04:35 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
morue = cod?

cod in these parts =


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posted 21 June 2003 06:17 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Skdadl, Mr Magoo advocated the use of "inexpensive whitefish" in his fish balls (recipe, please!). Now we both remember when codfish was the most banal thing available... Acras were originally made with salt cod.
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posted 21 June 2003 06:32 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The cod thing is complex, is it not? I mean, yes, when I was growing up, cod was not the Ango-desired fish ... but one has since learned that the Portuguese did marvellous things with it, yes? And even better: so did the Newfies! We were just too stupid and prejudiced to notice! And now the cod are GONE! *wry winkie*

I grew up thinking that sole was the desired whitefish, but honestly ... so boring ... We don't get very good haddock here, but Scottish haddock is superb.

I have a horrible feeling, though, that all these fish are going, going, goooooooone ...


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D'ye know, I can give you a year -- 1978? -- when you could still order, in Toronto, a plate of what Torontonians called "scampi" but really were genuine langoustines -- a whole plateful! delicious!

Imagine my shock when I discovered that "scampi" in Britain just meant prawns or shrimp. The langoustines that I remember were somewhere halfway between a lobster and a prawn -- not as big as the lobster, but with that flavour ... Och, heaven. And nothing to do with boring shrimps.

So in 1998, there I was, in Brittany, in a fishing village, watching the boats come in, watching our hoteliers buying their supplies for the night, and thinking, Yum Yum!

And it was on the menu. Something with langoustines. And d'ye know what that meant??? It meant that we had a few slices of langoustines interspersed among other stuff ... I mean, it was so sad.

Brittany used to be one of the great harvesting grounds for langoustines, but they are almost all gone now, which is why you get only slices in the villages there, and none at all in Toronto.

I understand that there are still some populations off the north coast of South America ...

But only 25 years ago ...


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posted 21 June 2003 10:51 PM      Profile for Mohamad Khan   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
clersal, you can make a perfectly good roti without the ghee or oil. i prefer it that way. in Faisalabad they fed me rotis loaded with ghee. in Punjabi we call them "copRiyaa~ roTiyaa~". i had to clean them off before eating them.

however, it's indispensable in paraThaas.


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posted 21 June 2003 11:01 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'll try it both ways. I thought that maybe using oil would make it easier to knead. Thanks.
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posted 22 June 2003 04:37 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've never made rotis, nor have I ever eaten them.

I wanna, now.

quote:
Am I right in thinking that ghee is clarified butter?

I just had a flash of Graham Kerr, the Galloping Gourmet. I used to watch that show every day at 4pm, after school.


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Oh my goodness, Mohamad, parathas...oh oh oh. I haven't had those in so long. There is an Indian food restaurant here in Kingston that makes parathas to DIE for (I'm in town for the weekend) and oh man. You're right, they are pretty greasy, but man, it doesn't matter. Those things aren't just bread - they're pastry.

I bribed my friend with hot sauce, but we just didn't have enough visiting time for her to make rotis with me. Oh well. I'll have to experiment with internet recipes and the recipes that are posted in this thread.

When I was still married, my husband and I went for supper at the home of a friend of his from school - we were in first year, and his friend, who was 18 or so, was still living at home because his family lives in Kingston. Anyhow, the friend's family was from Pakistan and so of course his mother cooks awesome regional food. And she made the kind of roti that Mohamad describes. I do believe it was as simple as Mohamad says, too, although they weren't overly eager to share the recipe with me. My husband begged them to show me how to make them. (Of course, I was thinking, you jerk, beg them to show YOU how to make them so that YOU can make them for ME, but of course I didn't say that...)


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OK for those who get to Toronto and love Thai street noodles...you must go to the Bangkok Garden on Elm St. between Young and Bay.

Thai street noodles are only served at lunch and it is amazing. In a fish/seafood based fresh broth you have your choice of either egg or rice noodle or a combo of both. The huge bowl is then filled with strips of chiken breast, fish quennelles, fish balls and a gently wrapped seafood of some kind that is scrumptious(white fish, shrimp and crab I think),loaded with bean sprouts,...and then you can add the following condiments, sugar, crushed peanuts, fish oil, red pepper and hot green and red peppers.

This is to die for and given location and the resteraunt's ambiance relatively inexpensive. It is a meal to last a day.


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Lagatta, those recipes don't contain chickpea flour, but they do contain cooked split yellow peas.

In any case, I'm wrong... West Indian roti can be made with a plain bread as opposed to "dhal puri" --

Potato Roti

more potato roti

Yet more potato roti:

quote:
Roti

4 cups flour
1 tsp. baking powder
1/2 tsp. salt
water to mix
oil
Instructions:
Sift flour, baking powder and salt together. Add enough water to make a soft dough. Let rest for 15 mins., covered with a damp cloth. Form into small balls of about the size of an eqq. Roll each ball flat and rub with oil. Make a slit to the center of the circle, then start to roll dough from one cut end to another, to form a ball. Cover with a damp cloth so that the top does not get hard. Continue until all the dough is rolled. Heat frying pan. Roll ball flat and put on frying pan. After 12 seconds turn the roti over, rub the top with oil. Turn it over again and rub with oil. Turn it over again until brown on both sides. Take the roti off the pan and clap between your hands to separate the layers. Continue until all the dough is cooked. Serve with curyr chicken, beef, shrimp...

Alu Roti (Potatoe Roti)

4 cups flour
1 1/2 lb. potatoes
1 tsp. geera
1/4 onion
2 tbsp. oil
1/2 tsp. black pepper
1 tsp. salt
oil
Instructions:
Make the dough for the roti. Boil the potatoes, peel and then mash. Heat the 2 tbsp. oil with geera. Add to potatoes. Add the ground onion, salt and pepper, mix well. Making sure there are no lumps. Make the dough into small balls and flatten in the palm of your hand. Put a ball of potatoes inside and bring up the edges. Twist closed to form a ball, which totally enveloped the potatoes. Heat frying pan. Gently roll the ball flat and fairly thin, making sure none of the filling comes out. Put roti on the pan for 3o seconds, turn and rub with oil. Then turn again and rub with oil. When brown on boht sided remove and serve

Dhal Puri Roti

4 cups flour
1 cup split peas
1 tsp. baking powder
1 clove garlic
2 tsp. salt
1 tsp. geera
water
oil
Instructions:
Boil peas in water until soft. Drain, put in a blender and grind until it forms a powder like consistency. Add geera, 1 tsp. salt, and ground onions. In another bowl mix flour, 1 tsp. salt and baking powder. Add enough water to make a soft dough. Let it sit for 15 minutes. Divide dough into balls. Cover with a damp cloth. Take a ball and flatten in the palm of your hand, add some of the pea mixture and bring the sides up to form a ball. Make sure edges are well sealed. Contineu until all the balls are filled with the mixture. Heat frying pan. Roll the filled ball flat making sure the filling does not come out. Put on the frying pan for 30 seconds, turn and rub oil on the puri, turn again and put oil on. Cook until light brown.


Myself, the places I frequent either use dhal puri bread or use copious amounts of chickpea flour in flouring the rolling surface. Either way, it makes a difference.

Ghee is not just clarified butter, which can be made by melting and refrigerating butter, then separating fat from milk solids and water. It's essential in ghee that the milk solids be cooked during the process, to impart a nutty aroma to the ghee. When the ghee is separated from the solids, the water has boiled off already. Ghee as made in India has a strong smell that is generally off-putting to foreigners at first.


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Saddam Soup
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“Saddam Soup” is a very spicy soup, with a mix of chicken chops and vegetables, whose recipe has a, well, European link.

“Saddam Soup is actually a European recipe. It comes complete with cheese and toast, but we have modified the recipe to local tastes,” Moosa told Haveeru.

“It is very hot and spicy,” he added.



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Well, no Saddam soup on offer, but Baghdad Café was quite a film!
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Do you guys really bother to peel and seed your tomatoes when you cook? I mean, why?

I only peel and seed tomatoes when I'm making gazpacho. Why? Dunno; the recipe called for it and I do find that they puree more easily and you get a better, less watery consistency. Same with cucumbers for different recipes (tsatsiki, for example). Plus, for me the process of making gazpacho is half the fun....I make a very colourful version with different coloured peppers, cucumber, celery as well as tomatoes...whatever I have that's fresh, really.

Wow, I'm hungry now and my lunchtime spinach salad just isn't going to do it for me....


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To purée tomatoes, parboil them. Immerse them briefly in boiling water. But I suppose for gaspacho, they should be uncooked. Definitely peel them for that. I'm not very fond of cold summer soups, actually.

Yes, of course you have to peel cucumbers to make tzatziki. You also have to express a lot of the water they contain. Idem the yogourt. Tzatziki is made from drained, full-fat yogourt. Dill is lovely too.


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I'm not a fan of dill in the tzatziki, really. I don't usually express the water, either. I use a combination of yohgurt and sour cream. Oh, and garlic of course. It may not be authentic, but it's pretty yummy nevertheless.
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Garlic goes without saying. But then, garlic goes without saying in pretty much everything. You don't have to put dill in it if you don't like it, could be oregano or a lot of things, but I like dill.

Wouldn't your tzatziki be awfully runny? I serve that on a mezzes plate with other Greek and Middle Eastern dip things and stuffed vine leaves etc. I feel too lazy right now to make stuffed vine leaves, they are a lot of work... Later in the season, they are lovely made with squash.


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How about that? I made dolmades (canned vine leaves, rice, chick peas, zaatar, tomato paste) and tzatziki a couple of weekends ago. I didn't peel the cucumbers. My recipe said I should salt and drain them. I'm no chemist, so I just shredded them, then squeezed the water out by hand. Worked fine. Made the yogurt myself. 'Tis dead easy.

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So in 1998, there I was, in Brittany, in a fishing village, watching the boats come in, watching our hoteliers buying their supplies for the night, and thinking, Yum Yum!

If you've been to Bretagne, you must have gone to a créperie and had galettes de blé noir and cidre. Perhaps with a little Chouchen as an apéro? Non? But you must!

Hmm. Breton seafood....

I've seen tables of people devour huge platters of fruits de la mer. It looked like an image from "Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom."

I have a good eel story, but I'm saving it...

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Well, I do try and remove some of the water from the cucumbers, but yes, it's more on the runny side than some of the tzatzikis that you get. Makes a good party dip, though, and is great on souvlaki.
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quote:
It looked like an image from "Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom."

Well, in exchange for access to a table of seafood, I'd gladly let Marlin Perkins shoot me in the ass with a dart!

Speaking of seafood, anyone here ever make their own sushi or sashimi?


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Mr. Magoo, yes, I've made sushi, but it has been a while.

This isn't so much a recipe but a reminder that linguine or trenette with pesto is GREAT with tiny fresh new green beans, and if you wish, new potatoes. You might find the new potatoes too heavy with the pasta, if so omit them. Of course you could also serve just the green beans and tiny potatoes with the pesto, and screw the pasta.

SERVES 4 TO 6

This recipe combines pasta from Liguria called trenette and pesto with potatoes and green beans, and is a specialty found in Cinque Terre and Portofino. Linguine can be used instead of the homemade trenette. This is perfect now that tiny new beans, new potatoes and basil are all in season.

Sorry for the non-metric measurements - this is not a precise recipe anyway.

* 4 to 6 quarts water 
* 1 tablespoon salt 
* 2 medium-size potatoes, peeled and diced 
* ½ pound green beans, trimmed and cut into 1-inch diagonal pieces 
* 1 pound Trenette 
* ½ cup Pesto Sauce 
* Freshly grated Pecorino or Parmigiano-Reggiano cheese for sprinkling


Bring the water to a boil in a pasta pot. Add the salt, potatoes, and green beans and cook until the vegetables are al dente, tender but still firm, about 4 minutes. Add the pasta, stir it with a pasta fork, cover the pot, and bring the water back to a boil. Uncover the pot and cook the pasta just until al dente, about 3 minutes. Drain the pasta and vegetables into a colander, reserving ½ cup of the cooking water. Return the pasta and vegetables to the pot.

In a small bowl, combine the prepared pesto sauce with just enough of the reserved cooking water to make a smooth consistency. Pour the sauce over the pasta. Gently combine and mix the ingredients well over low heat. Perhaps add a bit more olive oil. Transfer the pasta and vegetables to a platter or bowl and serve immediately. Pass additional cheese on the side.


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quote:
Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:

If you've been to Bretagne, you must have gone to a créperie and had galettes de blé noir and cidre. Perhaps with a little Chouchen as an apéro? Non? But you must!


I have had galettes de ble noir and cider, al-Q, but I've never had Chouchen. Interesting -- that sounds like mead, no? Another of those ancient Celtic drinks?

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Just watched the singing Italian chef on Pasquale's Cooking Express on OMNI-TV. He's a hoot! And makes cooking look easy. I wish that show was closed-captioned, I couldn't understand anything he was saying, but I love his singing of opera riffs.
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quote:
Originally posted by skdadl:

I have had galettes de ble noir and cider, al-Q, but I've never had Chouchen. Interesting -- that sounds like mead, no? Another of those ancient Celtic drinks?


This is eerie. Mme. Bong made galettes de blé noir for supper tonight...and we had cidre as well. I even looked for chouchen in the LBS the other day, but of course couldn't find it. It's a distilled liqueur made from honey, by the way.

All this from listening to a Storvan CD the other day...


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Hey, what would you do to doctor up a can of plain Habitant pea soup (it's the kind without meat).
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Meat or not I am not sure that is possible.

You could try some spicy beans. Or throw in some carmalized gingered onion.


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Hey, what would you do to doctor up a can of plain Habitant pea soup (it's the kind without meat).
Fry a diced med. onion and ham (about 2 slices minced - can be skipped by those adverse to it), in a bit of oil 'til the onion is translucent. Then add a chopped celery stalk and a carrot and a cup of broth (chicken or veg). Bring to a low boil for 5 minutes, then stir in the canned pea soup, and add a good handful of frozen green peas. Simmer another 5 mins. Add white pepper to taste; additional salt is not generally needed as both Habitant and commercial broths have plenty.

Thins it out nicely (Habitant is a bit gluey out of the can), and approximates a more homemade and healthy version of the Canuck classic.


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Yummy! Those suggestions sound great.

I was also thinking about fried onions as the base, but I was having a hard time thinking past that when I posted, so these ideas are great.

Thinking about this before coming back here, I was pondering the idea of frying onions, finely-diced squash, and corn and adding the soup. Kind of an unorthodox "three sisters" thing.

But I like yours, LTJ. Is this something you've done before, or did you just come up with it now?

BA, what's "gingered onion"?


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But I like yours, LTJ. Is this something you've done before, or did you just come up with it now?

Caught again. I've also been known to make 'homemade' leek and mushroom soup using Campbell's cream of mushroom as a base.

My family thinks I can cook, but I cheat a lot.


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Originally posted by Mr. Magoo:
Are you living in Toronto now? There used to be a little roti and Carribean food "joint" on Dundas just beside the Eaton Centre, before that area got bulldozed, and they made a huge spinach roti that was yours for about $3.

I believe the place migrated west on Dundas & is still serving up cheap rotis


Place that moved to 183 Dundas was the best Caribbean food I have ever tasted. They were from Guyana, all halal meat. I craved their jerk chicken so much during my last pregnancy that it's no wonder that kid has a bit of spice to her. Unfortunately the place is still there but as of my last visit a few weeks ago, the old owners are now gone... and although the menu hasn't changed the food is not even comparable. If anyone knows where the other people went please let me know!

On the plus side, there is a brand new Lebanese restaurant just a few doors down towards the Eaton Centre, on the second floor. They have hot Lebanese tea (fresh mint, kinda sweet, very tasty) and a whole big steam table of great healthy food. It's all windows so you can sit and listen to CityTV while watching the humanity milling around the intersection below, and have a great fast meal. It's a fun place.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lard Tunderin' Jeezus:
Fry a diced med. onion and ham (about 2 slices minced - can be skipped by those adverse to it), in a bit of oil 'til the onion is translucent. Then add a chopped celery stalk and a carrot and a cup of broth (chicken or veg). Bring to a low boil for 5 minutes, then stir in the canned pea soup, and add a good handful of frozen green peas. Simmer another 5 mins. Add white pepper to taste; additional salt is not generally needed as both Habitant and commercial broths have plenty.

Thins it out nicely (Habitant is a bit gluey out of the can), and approximates a more homemade and healthy version of the Canuck classic.


That sounds good! I'm going to try this tomorrow also throwing in the classic Dutch accoutrement, diced potato.

The other thing I do with soup and stew a lot of times is throw it in the slow cooker on low in the morning when I leave -- adding a little extra water -- then we all can grab our food whatever time we get home, and head straight out the door to evening activities. This concoction seems like it would stand up pretty well to that treatment, with the exception of the frozen peas. Those don't need to be cooked though so could be added at time of eating.


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quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Hey, what would you do to doctor up a can of plain Habitant pea soup (it's the kind without meat).

Come to think of it you could also try adding just fresh (frozen) peas (a lot -- you can squish some of them) and mint. Would taste great with plain yogourt.

BTW let me know if you want me to send you some mint to grow somewhere! I'll mail it to you. You could just plant it wherever there is a little patch of, say, municipal ground that needs improving, and it will thrive with no help or care. Best to put it someplace contained though -- either in a pot dug into the ground or another type of confined bed. For any edible plant, also better to choose a spot a little away from traffic, and out of the reach of dogs.

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