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lagatta
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posted 10 March 2006 10:27 AM
Well, I don't love the kind of Italians who vote for Berlusconi. There is a sleazy undercurrent in that society - an admiration for crooks like him, especially in that Silvio really is a self-made-man - that is most galling, and I say that as a fervent lover of Italy, who would move there in a wink as soon as I could get a decent job and Renzo get clearance in terms of his rabies shots being up to date. (And then I wind up meeting a guy from frigging Germany... Go figure)... Heph, the main frustration gay male friends had while visiting the Boot was that all the lovely men were so well-turned-out (positive gay stereotype alert) and not only that, walking arm in arm with friends, that my gay visitor friends couldn't believe they weren't all gay! But don't worry - enough of them are, as anywhere. Perhaps there aren't many lions on the loose in Rome any more, but there are lots of their smaller cousins even around the Colosseum. By the way, a famous Italian student movement, La Pantera, was named for a panther who escaped from a zoo just as the movement was taking off. [ 10 March 2006: Message edited by: lagatta ]
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posted 10 March 2006 11:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by lagatta: At a huge (250,000+) feminist demonstration in Milan in January, in support of the 1978 law decriminalising abortion, the demonstrators were also shouting out "We want Zapatero" - in reference to Spain's socialist coalition's far more courageous stand on same-sex marriage.
Spain's new prime minister has made history by assigning half of his cabinet seats to women and backing legislation to fight domestic violence and legalize abortion. quote: Spain's new prime minister is internationally best known for his decision last month to withdraw Spanish troops from Iraq, which drew the ire of the Bush administration.But domestically, Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero is attracting attention for making female empowerment a top priority. Newsstands abound with pictures of Zapatero surrounded by colorfully dressed female ministers and Spanish media have made much of the cultural and visual shift from previous governments of mostly gray-suited men.
In one of his first interviews with a major foreign newspaper, the International Herald Tribune, he said: quote: "I'm a radical feminist. In my experience, out of every four people in politics, if they are women, 3 are really good. If they are men, only one and a half to two. That's my experience. For public life and for democratic coexistence, I think being a woman is a great advantage. Because they know how to share things better than men do. And politics is all about knowing how to share."
And a subtext to that, often missed in Canada, is the very name Zapatero. Like all Spaniards, José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero has a surname from his father (Rodríguez) and his mother (Zapatero). His father was a lawyer; his mother a doctor. Spaniards use both their maternal and paternal names, however, you should always address someone by their paternal name only. For example, 'Señor John Smith Wilson' (Smith being the father's name and Wilson the mother's name) would be addressed as 'Señor Smith'. Except Zapatero. In Iberian countries people have at least two surnames (family names). One is inherited from the father, the other from the mother. Parents both give their father's first part of his family name to their children as a new family name. quote: In most Spanish speaking countries, the father's surname is written before the mother's surname (although there are occasional exceptions to this rule). Thus, for instance, Vicente Fox Quesada is Señor Fox (Mr. Fox in English), not Señor Quesada, and "Fox" is not his middle name.In Portuguese speaking countries, the father's surname is in most cases after the mother's surname. In these countries, it is very frequent that children get two surnames from each of their parents, thus having usually the last surname of each of their grandparents. The traditional naming conventions are now changing as attitudes toward gender equality evolve. In Portugal, since 1977, the child's last name can come either from the father or from the mother, but the latter is still very uncommon. The law in Spain has undergone a similar change; as in Portugal, it has had little effect on custom. Occasionally, a person with a common paternal surname and an uncommon maternal surname becomes widely known by the maternal surname, as with the artist Pablo Ruiz Picasso, best known simply as "Picasso", or the poet Federico García Lorca, often known simply as "Lorca", or even the Spanish prime minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, best known as "Zapatero".
At age 16, he heard the will of his socialist grandfather (paternal), an army colonel executed by a fascist firing squad in the Spanish Civil War. The will said: "I die innocent and I forgive." In 1986, he became the youngest member of parliament in Spain. When the 39-year-old politician became the Socialist party's leader in 2000, he was derided in the Spanish media with the nickname "Bambi" — noting his idealism and wide-eyed innocence.
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posted 10 March 2006 08:37 PM
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A month before Italy's hard- fought elections, prosecutors in Milan asked Friday that Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and a high-profile British lawyer be tried on charges of judicial corruption in a case that is also causing political turmoil in Britain. The prosecutors released no details, but the case has been widely reported in the Italian media, and centers on whether Berlusconi ordered $600,000 to be paid in 1999 to the lawyer, David Mills, an expert on offshore corporate law, in exchange for providing false testimony on behalf of Berlusconi in two other cases involving fraud and corruption charges. A judge must now rule on the indictment requests. . . . .Mills has ties to the innermost circles of the Labour government. His wife, Tessa Jowell, is Britain's culture minister and one of Prime Minister Tony Blair's closest allies. In the last few weeks, the British newspapers have been dominated by articles about Mills's complicated business affairs, casting an increasingly dark shadow on his marriage with Jowell, who has said that she knew nothing about his financial activities.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/03/10/news/italy.php
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posted 13 March 2006 08:26 AM
berlusconi storms out of RAI interview: quote: The media magnate refused to answer when state TV journalist Lucia Annunziata asked about his business affairs and the Iraq conflict. "You can't tell me what to do," he said as the conversation descended into bickering and he accused her of bias. "This is my show, I'll decide the questions," Ms Annunziata retorted. As he left the studio, his microphone was still attached and he could be heard shouting: "And they say I'm the one who controls Rai!"
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posted 15 March 2006 01:16 AM
BBC: Italy leaders clash in TV debate quote: "You've been in government for five years and you speak as if you were the opposition. How can you carry out such a deception on the country?" Mr Prodi said. He also attacked the prime minister on the issue of the alleged conflict of interest stemming from prime minister's media empire. Mr Berlusconi fired back: " Really, what cheek! In five years we have carried out more reforms than all the previous governments in the history of the republic put together."
It's worth noting the Second Republic came into being in 1993.
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lagatta
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posted 03 April 2006 07:44 AM
Vladimir Luxuria transgendered Rifondazione comunista candidate, was subjected to an agression (namecalling, homophobic and fascist banners, throwing vegetables - specifically fennel, as "finocchio" is a common homophobic term in Italian - death threats) by fascist thugs in Rome. Two were elected officials in the supposedly "post-fascist" Alleanza nazionale. Fortunately another Rifondazione candidate and people gathered to hear Luxuria came to the candidate's defence. Luxuria says mums with children were among the staunchest defenders, and also thanks the ragazzi (lads) in Rifondazione for keeping a cool head, as if not it would have turned into a terrible brawl. The police, of course, didn't show up until it was all over. Luxuria added that the campaign was seen as a challenge as it was precisely a serious campaign on the issues and not a sideshow based only on feathers and paillettes, as the media tried to portray it.
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posted 06 April 2006 01:21 AM
Looks like Berlusconi's getting a little frazzled: Berlusconi calls rivals `idiots' quote: Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi used an Italian obscenity to describe those planning to vote for his opponent, drawing criticism yesterday from opposition parties who called the leader "vulgar and coarse.''"I have too much respect for the intelligence of Italians to believe that there are so many `coglioni' around to vote against their best interest," he said. The word "coglioni" is a vulgar equivalent for "idiot" or "cretin." It is common in colloquial Italian but virtually unheard of in political speeches or business settings. Antonio Di Pietro, a former anti-corruption prosecutor turned centre-left lawmaker, said: "Better coglioni than Berlusconi.'' Berlusconi, in office since 2001 and blamed by many for Italy's struggling economy, was trailing in opinion polls published until late last month, and performed poorly in the first televised faceoff. Berlusconi reiterated his accusation that Prodi is a front-man for a coalition led by Communists.
Smells like desperation. I wonder if he's already played the God card yet?
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lagatta
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posted 06 April 2006 09:45 AM
Coglioni literally means testicles so that gives you an idea of the "register" of the expression. (It is similar to the use of "couillon" in French - while the more common French word for testicles in a literal sense is "couilles"). It is a common expression, as is cazzo which means penis, but is used more often as a vulgarity than to describe the centrepiece of that set: "Che cazzo fa?" What the fuck are you doing? As the article says, such mild obscenities are common in street Italian, but not in official public speech. Hmm, the God card. Even though Italy is a Catholic country and the Church still exercises a lot of influence in many ways, despite a sharp drop in churchgoing and in the birthrate, references to God are not looked on positively in Italian politics. Italians have lived too close to the machinations of the Vatican, and even among pious people, a certain cynicism about the uses of religion is common.
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posted 09 April 2006 02:55 AM
Do you think there'll be riots if the House of Freedoms is able to form a majority government while winning less of the popular vote than l'Unione?If progressive Italians do not use full force to take down a right-wing government without a mandate, they deserve to live under right-wing repression. [ 09 April 2006: Message edited by: Heavy Sharper ]
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posted 09 April 2006 07:55 AM
This article in the business section of today's Observer gives a quick overview of Italy's poor economic performance during the Berlusconi years (poor, of course, in the terms of classical economics).An innocent question: if, in classical economic terms, the fixes for Italy's problems of growth and uncompetitiveness would have been labour-market reform, why would a right-winger like Berlusconi not have tried to ram through some of the measures taken by, eg, the Germans? If he was, for a long time, powerful enough to fiddle with the laws and the courts, why did he not try to work his will on the economy?
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posted 09 April 2006 11:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by lagatta: Coglioni literally means testicles so that gives you an idea of the "register" of the expression. (It is similar to the use of "couillon" in French - while the more common French word for testicles in a literal sense is "couilles"). It is a common expression, as is cazzo which means penis, but is used more often as a vulgarity than to describe the centrepiece of that set: "Che cazzo fa?" What the fuck are you doing? As the article says, such mild obscenities are common in street Italian, but not in official public speech.
"Dickhead" or "prick" might be good translations of coglioni.
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Heavy Sharper
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posted 09 April 2006 02:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by skdadl: This article in the business section of today's Observer gives a quick overview of Italy's poor economic performance during the Berlusconi years (poor, of course, in the terms of classical economics).An innocent question: if, in classical economic terms, the fixes for Italy's problems of growth and uncompetitiveness would have been labour-market reform, why would a right-winger like Berlusconi not have tried to ram through some of the measures taken by, eg, the Germans? If he was, for a long time, powerful enough to fiddle with the laws and the courts, why did he not try to work his will on the economy?
Maybe he's trying to lull Italians into a false sense of security. Chirac's gang has taken a long time to bite too... As for my previous post, I'm referring to electoral reforms that make it theoretically possible for HoF to form a majority government while winning less of the popular vote than l'Unione. Unlike Bush's minority election, which was sanctioned by an electoral system that's over 2 centuries old, an HoF minority election would be sanctioned by reforms that the government has made over the past couple of years...And if Italians put up with that, I'm not sure if they deserve better. [ 09 April 2006: Message edited by: Heavy Sharper ]
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posted 10 April 2006 02:20 AM
2/3 of voters have voted today...Turnout extremely strong in North and around Rome...I think that's good for Berlusconi...:-( [Long url removed by Michelle. Try tinyurl or babble's URL function.] [ 10 April 2006: Message edited by: Michelle ]
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posted 10 April 2006 08:34 PM
What's pathetic is the absurdly high number of Italians who support fascists, neo-fascists, the allegedly non-fascist far-right (Now that's a laugh...), and those like Berlusconi who are willing to work with them in government.Some of these people are far worse than even Jorge Haider, and yet Italy faces no ostracisation for electing them and even welcoming them into the governing coalition. Alleanza NAZIonale is "post-fascist" far-right. Its supporters consist entirely of the same sort of violent hooligans affiliated with the party who attacked Communist transvetite candidate Vladimir Luxuria. They won over 12% of the vote. Lega Nord is a chauvinistic autonomous movement in Northern Italy espousing xenophobia and far-right policies. Many consider them more extreme than AN. They won over 4% of the vote. Alternativa Sociale Mussolini is so disgusting that it doesn't even deserve explanation. People stupid enough to vote for hypocritical neo-Nazi prima donna whose main "contributions" to this world include bad pornography and bad pro-fascist films don't even deserve access to a ballot. Fiamma Tricolore is the most explicity far-right of the lot and has won 226,192 votes too many. These two parties won over 1% of the vote between them. http://politiche.interno.it/politiche/camera060409/C0000000.htm [ 10 April 2006: Message edited by: Heavy Sharper ]
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posted 10 April 2006 11:08 PM
Hahaha...Those reforms were an attempt by the right to rig the election and weaken any left-wing coalition that won...But they backfired on the bastards..hahahaWho's the coglioni now, Silvio? Why you and those corrupt managers, of course. [ 10 April 2006: Message edited by: Heavy Sharper ]
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posted 12 April 2006 02:53 AM
What kind of centre-left coalition does Italy now have?Ulivo (220 seats) is itself a federation of Massimo D'Alema's Left Democrats (ex-Euro-communists), the centre-left Margherita of Romano Prodi and Francesco Rutelli (which aims to combine the christian-democratic, the liberal-democratic and the european-reformist cultures, and Luciana Sbarbati's little left-liberal European Republican Movement (which split from the old little Republican Party when it joined Berlusconi's coalition). Fausto Bertinotti's Communist Refoundation Party (41 seats), the furthest left group which includes some Troskyists La Rosa Nel Pugno (The Rose In The Fist) (18 seats), itself a federation of the left-libertarian Radical Party of Emma Bonino, Enrico Boselli's Democratic Socialists, the Luca Coscioni Association (against prohibition of embryonic stem cells research), and the Socialist Youth. Comunisti Italiani (16 seats), Eurocommunists who split from the Communist Refoundation Party when it took a stand against the previous Prodi government, led by Oliviero Diliberto. Italy of Values (16 seats), populist and anti-corruption, headed by former magistrate Antonio Di Pietro Greens (15 seats)led by Pecoraro Scanio, Italy's first openly bisexual minister. Clemente Mastella's Popular-UDEUR (10 seats), centrist. He was in Berlusconi's first cabinet but split with him. The South Tyrol People's Party (4 seats), an ethnic German minority party. I can't find an article in English speculating on the tensions and prospects within this diverse coalition.
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posted 12 April 2006 03:29 AM
Gino Bucchino, a 58-year-old Toronto physician, won one of the two Chamber of Deputies seats allotted to the North and Central America district. "Now we have a voice in Italy's parliament," said Bucchino, also a candidate of the centre-left coalition. Four years ago Bucchino went to Uganda: quote: Dr. Gino Bucchino, a member of our community very well known both in and outside of it, is leaving for Angal, Uganda, with his wife Marisa, a physician like him, and their children Filippo and Carolina, in order to serve as volunteers in that village's rural hospital.Why go Dr. Bucchino? "Because I want to be a certain kind of physician." "Unfortunately, our community did not grow much on the political and cultural level. . . our people often arrived here with nothing, had to work hard to survive, and when they succeeded they were catapulted in the hyperconsumeristic system of the United States. They had neither time nor will to think that beyond money there are other values. Gianni Carparelli told you in his interview that they had no possibility to read, reflect, discuss. I concur. If you throw in the dangerous proximity with the U.S., the picture is complete." You are really mad at the U.S. You're still a Marxist to the core. "This is not the problem. Fact is, false democracies frighten me. Do you call democracy what goes on beyond Niagara Falls, where, just as a matter of example, a man can't rely on a good sanitary assistance unless he has a healthy bank account? Luckily, Canada is not like that, but the proximity is dangerous." "One of the most evident effects of the abandonment is the way Woodbridge roads are designed, seemingly in order to avoid buses entering them. Because a bus means misery, in the opinion of many in our community. Richness, on the contrary, means three or four cars per family."
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posted 18 April 2006 09:16 AM
Italy's cashmere communist: quote: Many moderates in the centre-left are concerned Bertinotti could hold Prodi to ransom unless he gets his way. He was responsible for sinking Prodi's first government when, in 1998, he turned against him in a confidence vote due to disagreements over labour policy. Prodi's fall eventually led to Berlusconi's 2001 landslide victory and five years in power -- something for which many on the left have still not forgiven Bertinotti. He has promised he will not sink Prodi a second time, saying his party today is fully signed up to the coalition and its manifesto, rather than merely lending parliamentary support from outside the government as it did in the late 1990s. Bertinotti has taken a left-wing but hardly extreme stance, calling for lower tax on labour and higher taxes on capital gains -- a policy broadly adopted by Prodi's "Union" coalition. "There's nothing wrong with being rich, as long as you pay taxes," he has said.
On Wednesday, the executive committee of Fausto Bertinotti's Rifondazione Comunista held a fractious session: quote: . . an assembly-line-and-railroad-worker faction sometimes described as Trotskyite threatened to wrench its 11 of Refondazione's 41 winning deputies in parliament out of Rifondazione, should the party back Romano Prodi for premier. Said a faction spokesperson: "This [backing the centrist Prodi] would signal the end of Rifondazione's position at the heart of opposition to the politics of the padroni" (bosses). . the Rifondazione's left-wing Pane e Rose (Bread and Roses) faction, led by Marco Ferrando and Francesco Ricci, had already complained that, whereas "everyone is asking if we are trustworthy for Prodi, we want to know if we can trust him." Bertinotti, they charged, is selling the party out to the "sirens of capitalism," with the result that young voters preferred the Party of the Democratic Left (PDS), led by Massimo D'Alema, the party built on the old PCI (Italian Communist Party) which is the second-largest in the Prodi-led center-left coalition. Rifondazione has become "a party of divisive politics that builds false illusions in the working class," said a Pane e Rose editorial yesterday. Losing eleven deputies in parliament is unikely to block either Bertinotti's move into the power circle or the formation of a Prodi government.
That's because Prodi's coalition has a 67-seat majority (see above.)
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posted 29 April 2006 11:52 AM
Prodi's candidate elected Senate speaker by nine votes: quote: Mr Prodi has a majority of only two seats in a chamber of more than 300 senators. Mr Marini defeated outgoing Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi's nominee, 87-year-old Giulio Andreotti, by just nine votes.
Good start. I guess that means that Marina got the votes of all of the seven "senators for life." But herding this coalition may be like herding cats. In the first round of voting for Speaker of the lower house, Bertinotti got only 305 votes: quote: There were 220 blank ballots in the first round of voting for the speaker of the Chamber and 18 nullified ballots, but the majority voted for the leader of the PRC, who got 305. Voting in the hall of Parliament were 594 representatives, 13 of whom indicated Massimo D'Alema and 12 Francesco Cossiga, but there were even votes for the outgoing Pierferdinando Casini and the new representatives Vladimir Luxuria and Carfagna. According to the regulations in force it is necessary to have a two-thirds majority of the votes in the first three votes in order to be elected speaker. In the fourth round there only needs to be a majority of those present.
In the second round he even lost three votes: quote: Fausto Bertinotti, the centre-left's official candidate, mustered only 305 and 302 votes respectively in the first two ballots – too few to win – in spite of the fact that Mr Prodi's forces control 348 seats in the 630-seat lower house.The clear implication of the votes was that several dozen centre-left legislators could not bring themselves to vote for their own candidate. Mr Bertinotti is the leader of Communist Refoundation, a hardline Marxist party that is often at odds with the centrist and democratic socialist elements of Mr Prodi's bloc.
But I guess that was all in good fun, since the election was bound to go to the fourth round. Fausto Bertinotti was elected Italy's new lower house speaker during the fourth round of voting with 337 votes against the absolute majority required of 304. Clemente Mastella's centrist Popular-UDEUR (10 seats) has decided to offer external support only: quote: the UDEUR would only act as an external ally. "We have decided to remain outside the government. We will support it... and I will be loyal but there will be no betrayal of our (Catholic) values."Mastella emerged discontented from talks on Thursday with Prodi reportedly focusing on the Senate speakership or two ministries for the UDEUR. "Prodi has not understood the extra value of the UDEUR, the importance of the political centre and the role of moderates."
Bertinotti got 337 votes while Prodi's coalition has 348 seats. Hmm. Mastella's ten votes may have externalized out of sight. That doesn't matter in the lower house, but in the Senate he has a crucial three seats. A good example of the dangers of an elected and equal upper house?[ 29 April 2006: Message edited by: Wilf Day ]
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posted 02 May 2006 06:12 PM
Well, the situations in Italy 2006 and the U.S. election are exactly the same, except that:1)Gore indisputably WON the popular vote. There was never any possibility that Berlosconi could say the same. 2)There was a massively organized effort in Florida to illegitimately drive thousands of African American voters off of the voting rolls, and nothing remotely similar was done to conservative voters in Italy(and could not, in fact, possibly have been done, since conservatives were in power in Italy and were in charge of counting the votes). 3)There was nothing comparable in the Italian situation to the U.S. Supreme Court, most of whom were appointed by Republican presidents, awarding the electoral votes of Florida to the Republican candidate. Time for you to say "Oh, never mind, I was a complete idiot to compare the two situations" Mr "Radical Progressive"(and btw, may I congratulate you on the most Orwellian use of those two words in the history of the English language?). [ 02 May 2006: Message edited by: Ken Burch ]
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posted 12 May 2006 12:20 AM
Giorgio Napolitano, Italy's first former communist to be elected president . . was put forward by incoming Prime Minister Romano Prodi as a compromise candidate after the centre right had rejected Prodi's first choice, former Prime Minister Massimo D'Alema. As an elder statesman and life senator, the soft spoken Napolitano was seen as less divisive than D'Alema even though they are both from the Democrats of the Left (DS), the heir of what was once the largest communist party in the West.Prodi works on cabinet: quote: Napolitano was elected . . on the votes of the centre left alone. It was a key victory for Prodi. Not only did it mean he could finally take office but it also showed his unwieldly and potentially fractious nine-party coalition could pull together when needed.The coalition ranges from Communists and anti-clericalists to staunch Catholics, making unity as difficult as it is crucial given Prodi's slim majority. The job of forming a coalition government, difficult at the best of times, is even tougher for Prodi with nine essential allies vying for posts and visibility and all demanding to be contented. Prodi stressed on Wednesday that he was anxious to have former premier and Democratic Left (DS) chairman Massimo D'Alema on board. . . the press has speculated that the 57-year-old former Communist will be made foreign minister as well as deputy premier. Meanwhile, the centrist, Catholic-oriented Daisy party - the second biggest party after the DS - is also angling for five or six ministries in the new government. According to the media, Daisy leader and former Rome mayor Francesco Rutelli, who was defeated by Berlusconi in the 2001 election, is likely to be offered the culture ministry and the job of deputy premier along with D'Alema. Prodi is expected to have a harder task in appeasing his smaller allies, with the media already predicting a battle between centrist, Catholic UDEUR chief Clemente Mastella and top Radical Emma Bonino for the post of defence minister. There was already an exchange of crossfire earlier this month when Bonino, a former European commissioner for human rights, said she was better qualified for the job than Mastella, who was still bristling at being passed over for the Senate speakership. Meanwhile, the PRC's new chief Franco Giordano, who has taken over from Bertinotti, emerged from talks with Prodi on Thursday to say that things were "looking good" for his hard-left party in the new cabinet. The PRC, which brought down Prodi's first, 1996-98 government, holds positions that conflict with other coalition parties on several issues including economic and labour market reform and foreign policy. But Prodi is hoping his allies' undersigning of the alliance's 280-page election programme will limit infighting and has promised a strong leadership legitimised by his landslide victory in unprecedented primary-style elections last October.
So Mastella's "external support" was a ploy for a shot at defence minister?I see here that: quote: On May 7 during a PRC National Political Committee meeting and after Fausto Bertinotti's resignation, Franco Giordano, former chairman of the PRC parliamentary group at the lower chamber (until 2006), has been elected as new PRC national secretary with 68.81% of the vote.
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posted 19 May 2006 02:26 AM
Here is the breakdown of Prodi's cabinet:Democrats of the Left (DS) 9: - Foreign Affairs, Deputy Prime Minister: Massimo D'Alema - Health: Livia Turco - Industry: Pierluigi Bersani - Universities, scientific research: Fabio Mussi - Labour: Cesare Damiano - Civil Service: Luigi Nicolais - Sports: Giovanna Melandri - Equal Opportunities: Barbara Pollastrini - Relations with Parliament and Institutional Reforms: Vannino Chiti Margherita 9: - Culture, Deputy Prime Minister: Francesco Rutelli - Defense: Arturo Parisi - Interior: Giuliano Amato - Education: Giuseppe Fioroni - Agriculture: Paolo De Castro - Communications: Paolo Gentiloni - Regional: Linda Lanzillotta - Government Programme: Giulio Santagata - Family Policy: Rosy Bindi Ulivo (220 seats) is itself a federation of Massimo D'Alema's Left Democrats (ex-Euro-communists), the centre-left Margherita of Romano Prodi and Francesco Rutelli (which aims to combine the christian-democratic, the liberal-democratic and the european-reformist cultures, and Luciana Sbarbati's little left-liberal European Republican Movement (which split from the old little Republican Party when it joined Berlusconi's coalition). Refoundation Communist Party (PRC) 1: - Welfare: Paolo Ferrero Fausto Bertinotti's Communist Refoundation Party (41 seats) is the furthest left group. Bertinotti is Speaker of the lower house. Rose in the Fist 1: - European Affairs and Foreign Trade: Emma Bonino La Rosa Nel Pugno (The Rose In The Fist) (18 seats), itself a federation of the left-libertarian Radical Party of Emma Bonino, Enrico Boselli's Democratic Socialists, the Luca Coscioni Association (against prohibition of embryonic stem cells research), and the Socialist Youth. Italy of Values 1: - Infrastructure: Antonio Di Pietro Italy of Values (16 seats), populist and anti-corruption, headed by former magistrate Antonio Di Pietro Comunisti Italiani 1: - Transport: Alessandro Bianchi Comunisti Italiani (16 seats), Eurocommunists who split from the Communist Refoundation Party when it took a stand against the previous Prodi government, led by Oliviero Diliberto. Greens 1: - Environment: Alfonso Pecoraro Scanio Greens (15 seats) led by Pecoraro Scanio, Italy's first openly bisexual minister. Udeur 1: Justice: Clemente Mastella Clemente Mastella's Popular-UDEUR (10 seats), centrist. He was in Berlusconi's first cabinet but split with him. South Tyrol People's Party 0: The South Tyrol People's Party (4 seats), an ethnic German minority party. no party affiliation 1: - Economy and Finance: Tomasso Padoa-Schioppa Then there are the stacks of vice-ministers and under-secretaries, including a group of five women and two men from the Communist Refoundation Party.
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