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martin dufresne
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posted 24 February 2008 09:31 AM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The article describes this quip as a ploy to get media exposure in order to fight corruption charges against Benizri.
quote:

Benizri's gay earthquake
By Shahar Ilan, Haaretz, Feb. 22

(...) Benizri is Shas' most skilled and experienced speaker and was probably fully aware of the earthquake he would cause when he approached the microphone during a Knesset plenum session and, knowing he was in full view of the television cameras, quoted passages from the Gemara concerning body organs so shaken during male homosexual sex they even cause shocks in the Syrian-African fault line.
(...)
He was referring to a discussion in the Jerusalem Talmud about the causes of earthquakes and which, in one passage, makes a link between gay sex, God's wrath and earthquakes.

(...) Reform Rabbi Gilad Kariv said that the "only organ that shook the Knesset was Benizri's unrestrained tongue."

If somebody is planning to appeal to the Knesset Ethics Committee then they are wasting their time. MK Nissim Ze'ev compared "homos" to the bird flu in a Knesset committee last month. He also said that they are causing "the self-destruction of the State of Israel and the Jewish people." (...)


Benizri's gay earthquake

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Boarsbreath
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posted 24 February 2008 01:26 PM      Profile for Boarsbreath   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Where to post? Either here, since this kind of attitude is very influential around the world (don't think he's a voice in the wilderness), or in Science & Humanities, since it's interesting studying how people come to think (or even say) such things.
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posted 24 February 2008 01:33 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lord. Fundamentalists just don't even try to think about what they're saying, do they?
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remind
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posted 24 February 2008 01:45 PM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, coyote don't you get it, it is God's wrath, in line with all the other tall tales that were written eons ago to explain phenomena not yet understood.
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a link between gay sex, God's wrath and earthquakes.

Yet it is hard for one to understand the disconnect from reality those believing such things are experiencing.


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martin dufresne
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posted 24 February 2008 02:17 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have always felt that Conservative appeals to Scriptures followed policy rather than dictate it. So if a patriarch wants to deflect attention away from his own (very real) abuses, he will fish around for a suitable biblical quote and opportune target but the earthquake connection is probably not anything he really believes and we would be naive to dismiss him as delusionary when he sets up one more red herring to delude reigion followers.
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posted 24 February 2008 03:08 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don't put it in the wrong place, or I'll cause an earthquake!
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Slumberjack
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martin dufresne
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posted 24 February 2008 03:44 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
At least, now we know the origin of the "Did the Earth move?" line...
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