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Rundler
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posted 18 September 2002 10:00 AM      Profile for Rundler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Thin Line, by Jennifer O'Connor

http://www.rabble.ca/news_full_story.shtml?x=15476&url=

Pro-ana -- or pro-anorexia -- Web sites are very disturbing to those on the outside. They lay bare the lives of some of those struggling with eating disorders. But if we turn away by turning them off, are we really helping solve the problem or just hiding a result that we find hard to handle?


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janew
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posted 18 September 2002 12:18 PM      Profile for janew     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This is a really interesting piece.
I do wonder what the difference between support sites for large women and support sites for anorexic women is, though. How come it's disturbing to see sites glorifying anorexia but not ones that glorify women at the other extreme...like magnifi-sense?

I think for me (and I'm admittedly biased, since I'm heavy myself) the ones supporting 'large acceptance' don't usually say big is better, just that it's also beautiful. The pro-ana sites seem to be disgusted by large women.

I think it is a good thing to have sites that show acceptance of people with anorexia, though. It is their choice, and they can be just as beautiful and important as anyone else. I'd just like to see something on the sites, that reassures people that the acceptance would continue if they gain weight.


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lagatta
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posted 18 September 2002 12:23 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Janew, I'd say the difference between "pro-ana" sites and "bbw" sites is that the latter don't tend to glorify pigging out on junk food or other unhealthy eating habits, in general they simply recognise that people are of different sizes and shapes. There are a lot of people (men and women) who are naturally skinny too, I'm thinking of some friends who really pack it away and have 5% body fat...
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SamL
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posted 18 September 2002 09:45 PM      Profile for SamL     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If they were to be banned, then they would find a way to get around it. There are just too many ways in cyberspace.
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adlib
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posted 19 September 2002 12:08 AM      Profile for adlib     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I agree with lagatta and SamL.

The sites are disturbing. Not because they show pictures of women who are thin, but because they glorify not eating. Big and beutiful sites don't glorify being unhealthy.

I don't think they can be stopped, though.

I always find it upsetting that the misconception continues that big people are necessarily eating "more", or less healthy food than smaller, or even skinny people.

There are millions of people out there making terrible food choices, but unless they happen to have a particularly slow metabolism, no one would think to judge them, except to maybe say that they're "jealous".

Until that kind of absurdity stops, young women will keep killing themselves to be "beautiful".


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rosebuds
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posted 19 September 2002 05:51 PM      Profile for rosebuds     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The cover page of "anorexic by choice" - a site for "those with eating disorders who do not choose to go into recovery at this time" says:

quote:


You are solely responsible for the
decisions you make. This site, it's owners, and affiliates bear no liability for the choices you made/make nor for any harm that came to you as a result thereof.

This site does not encourage that you
develop an eating disorder. This is a site
for those who ALREADY have an eating
disorder and do not wish to go into
recovery.

Some material in here may
be triggering.

If you do not already have an eating
disorder, better it is that you do not develop one now. You may wish to leave.


They know their web site makes sick people get sicker, and healthy people get sick. They lamely try to "waive" themselves of any responsability for that. Disgusting.

But not disgusting enough, as far as I'm concerned, to be censored...

[ September 19, 2002: Message edited by: rosebuds ]


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Timebandit
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posted 19 September 2002 06:30 PM      Profile for Timebandit     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I had a look at the member photo albums on that site... Most of those gals are about my size, many of them bigger than in my pre-baby phase.

I think I'm going to go eat some cake or something....


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audra trower williams
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posted 19 September 2002 07:11 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We had a pro-ana person posting on Marigold for a while. Her name was futurebird. It went like this.
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janew
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posted 23 September 2002 08:53 AM      Profile for janew     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the link to Futurebirds posts. Too bad she's not on your board anymore. I found this statement really interesting...

quote:
It's the fine line between attacking the person and attacking the idea.

I can relate, as a smoker. You get tired of people feeling free to criticize you for the things you don't do well and not seeing that it may be one of the reasons that you can do other things well...crutch though it definitely is.

I would bet that most of the pro-ana people would rather be happy with their body no matter what it was like - just like the rest of us would, but the choice about how to deal with that discomfort is a different one.

So how do we criticize the fact that society makes people feel that they're not acceptable if their body isn't some arbitrarily defined 'just right'...but not criticize individuals for the way they deal with that?

[ September 23, 2002: Message edited by: janew ]


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