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kuri
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posted 22 February 2006 10:29 AM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Provocative T-shirt show banned in Poland

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The exhibition featured Polish personalities wearing T-shirts with slogans that refer to subjects which are normally taboo in Roman Catholic Poland, such as "I am gay", "I'm Jewish", "I'm Arab," "I masturbate" and "I have my period."

"To write 'I've got Aids' or 'I've had an abortion' on a T-shirt, you would have to be devoid of all human feelings," the bishop of Lublin, Jozef Zycinski, said.


"Devoid of all human feelings"? This coming from someone who's worked to silence those fighting the proliferation of AIDS? Gah.


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Mr. Magoo
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posted 22 February 2006 10:36 AM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The texts printed on the T-shirts could have offended the feelings and beliefs of many people," Wieslaw Kaminski, president of UMCS University in the southeastern city of Lublin, was quoted by the Rzeczpospolita daily as saying

And of course "many people" = "many religious people".

Well, best cancel the show then. The most important thing is that religious jackoffs aren't offended ever again. We must tiptoe carefully around their precious feelings.


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Hephaestion
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posted 22 February 2006 10:37 AM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You're still surprised at hypocrisy in the RC heirarchy? How old are you?????
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Cueball
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posted 22 February 2006 11:04 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Is the Western Standard going to reprint the graphics from the T-shirts as a demonstration of the right for freedom of expression?
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 22 February 2006 11:10 AM      Profile for Mr. Magoo   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They aren't pictures, they're words. In that respect, babble just reprinted seven of them.

But then this isn't the first time babble has printed something just to get a reaction, eh?


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lagatta
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posted 22 February 2006 11:31 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
But what is shocking in this story is not that someone in the very right-wing Catholic Church in Poland said something idiotic, but the University president's muzzling of free expression:
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A university in Poland has banned an exhibition of T-shirts bearing slogans such as "I didn't cry when the Pope died" and "I've got Aids," saying the show was too provocative, press reports said on Tuesday.

"The texts printed on the T-shirts could have offended the feelings and beliefs of many people," Wieslaw Kaminski, president of UMCS University in the southeastern city of Lublin, was quoted by the Rzeczpospolita daily as saying.


And no, I don't think it is quite the same as the Danish Muhammad cartoons: Catholicism is the majority religion in Poland and the Church is closely tied to the ruling coalition. If a Polish newspaper were to print caricatures offensive to, say, Roma, or the remnants of the Jewish community, that would be a better parallel.


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kuri
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posted 22 February 2006 11:42 AM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Exactly, lagatta. I'm constantly amazed how blind so many people on this board are to issues of power.
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voice of the damned
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posted 22 February 2006 12:06 PM      Profile for voice of the damned     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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And no, I don't think it is quite the same as the Danish Muhammad cartoons: Catholicism is the majority religion in Poland and the Church is closely tied to the ruling coalition. If a Polish newspaper were to print caricatures offensive to, say, Roma, or the remnants of the Jewish community, that would be a better parallel.

Sure. But suppose that a devout Catholic child in Belfast, accustomed to hearing hateful shouts of "Papist!!" while dodging Orangmen's rocks on the way to school every day, reads that people in Poland are wearing "I didn't cry when the Pope died" t-shirts. Would he consider that message to be a justified critique of a powerful institution?


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Heavy Sharper
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posted 22 February 2006 12:43 PM      Profile for Heavy Sharper        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm surprised to see the Helsinki Federation siding with the good guys as they are the same peons who claims that Boers are being slaughtered all over South Africa (A lie).
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