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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 16 January 2005 09:49 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Health Care? Ask Cuba.

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Here's a wrenching fact: If the U.S. had an infant mortality rate as good as Cuba's, we would save an additional 2,212 American babies a year.

Yes, Cuba's. Babies are less likely to survive in America, with a health care system that we think is the best in the world, than in impoverished and autocratic Cuba. According to the latest C.I.A. World Factbook, Cuba is one of 41 countries that have better infant mortality rates than the U.S.

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True, infant mortality and many other American health problems are largely intertwined with poverty, and experience suggests that neither the left nor the right has easy solutions for intractable poverty. But some of the steps the government is now taking or talking about - like cutting back further on entitlements, particularly those giving children access to health care - would aggravate the situation. Last year, a study by the Institute of Medicine, a branch of the National Academy of Sciences, estimated that the lack of health insurance coverage causes 18,000 unnecessary deaths a year.

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We should celebrate this freedom that we enjoy in America - by complaining about and working to address pockets of poverty and failures in our health care system. It's simply unacceptable that the average baby is less likely to survive in the U.S. than in Beijing or Havana.


I debated whether to put this in the USA of the Rest of the World forum. Depending on which way the discussion goes, it may need to be moved.


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fern hill
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posted 16 January 2005 09:55 PM      Profile for fern hill        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Michael Moore, on TV Nation, did a comparison among US, Canadian and Cuban health care systems. Three people with the same injury, to the leg, can't remember whether broken or what. The US had the fastest treatment and the most expensive. Cuba had the slowest and the cheapest (0). Canada was in the middle for speed and fairly cheap -- I think the patient had to pay $50 for the crutches.
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Cougyr
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posted 16 January 2005 11:18 PM      Profile for Cougyr     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In the US, you get the medical care that you pay for, even if you don't need it. If you want it, if you can afford it, you can get it. Because of the mercenary system of medicine, wealthy people get all kinds of medical assistance including bad medicine. That's particularly true in areas like Florida that have a lot of wealthy retired people.

We Canadians need to stay away from the American system. Doctors need to be able to tell patients that going for a walk would be better than taking pills, or whatever.


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