But check out the story at http://in.news.yahoo.com/reuters_ids_new/20080115/r_t_rtrs_wl_us/twl-israel-back-of-the-bus-rule-sparks-r-d4a870c_1.html

Here's an excerpt:

"Every time Israeli student Iris Yoffe takes the bus to Jerusalem, she has to be ready for abuse from ultra-Orthodox Jews who say she should be kept off because she's wearing trousers.

Assuming she makes it onto the bus at all -- on several occasions groups of Orthodox men have tried to block the door -- Yoffe, 24, heads for the "women's section" at the back of the bus, keeps her head down and tries to ignore the insults.

"I end up feeling helpless and humiliated, like an outsider," said Yoffe, whose public bus from her home in northern Israel to Jerusalem has separate male and female seating because it runs through an ultra-Orthodox community.

A row over Israel's buses underscores the schism between its ultra-Orthodox minority -- who believe women should don long skirts and stay away from men in public -- and those who want to keep the country, and its public transport system, secular.

And as for what Cjc has done....why the fuck don't you just ask them yourself? I hear they have a phone and email. My guess is that had you even some small understanding of how the jewish community operates you might find such issues usually handled by the Canadian Jewish voice on Israel, that being the Israel Canada committee.

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And golly, I don't understand why you're so upset about what I wrote here. I was just curious about why the CJC "seems to remain very quiet" on the issue. Surely they do not wish to be "associated with such crap".

Or is it only Muslim groups who must denounce things that some Muslims do in other countries whenever the CJC snaps its fingers and demands it? Surely the CJC doesn't mind other people snapping their fingers and demanding that they immediately and publicly denounce whatever story people drag up about some Jews in other countries, right?

I mean, "I am confused, is there any sentiment here that this practice is acceptable"?

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Originally posted by ohara:
Sorry your right I thought you were referring to cjc not speaking out on those matters.

While i still believe you are asking the wrong group, i have sat in on lectures given by Professor rachel turkienicz who is a director at the cjc and she has often and publicly denounced these actions. Im sure by the way if you go back in the canadian Jewish News you will see Canadian Jewish leades have spoken out too. This is not new its years and years old and shameful

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forget it.

[ 15 January 2008: Message edited by: Coyote ]

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Originally posted by Indiana Jones:
I don;t like this whole nonsense that groups representing an ethnicity or religion should ahve to "clarify" that they don't agree with what a handful of its wackier members might do.

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There's a history here that you don't know. That's all. No one is asking Jews generally to answer for this, someone is asking certain other someones to answer for their own behaviour, though some of the someones aren't honest enough or subtle enough to see it...

[ 16 January 2008: Message edited by: B.L. Zeebub LLD ]

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Originally posted by Indiana Jones:
I don't see why teh hell the CJC WOULD comment.

I don;t like this whole nonsense that groups representing an ethnicity or religion should ahve to "clarify" that they don't agree with what a handful of its wackier members might do.

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[ 16 January 2008: Message edited by: B.L. Zeebub LLD ]

I remember this past summer being in Jerusalem and this city, apparently, has a single gay bar and there were Orthodox jews and Muslims both putting up anit-gay psoters on the wall outside of it.

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I doubt it. But when it comes to social/religious issues like that, the Orthodox jews and Muslims are often on the same page.
I remember this past summer being in Jerusalem and this city, apparently, has a single gay bar and there were Orthodox jews and Muslims both putting up anit-gay psoters on the wall outside of it. And it was almost touching to see that in a region so plagued by tensions, Jews and Muslims can still put their differences aside to hate other people more than they hate each other.

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