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Internet Devil
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posted 15 October 2003 12:06 AM
Maybe sexuality can be healthy for normal people. But after all I suffered from abuse by family of origin and inborn neurosis, I could never form a healthy relationship. I am married, but my wife is 21 years my senior. Fortunatly, I have access to Internet, where I look at legal adult sites about an hour and a half a day. Being free of sexual problems I can have many female friends and I like talking to them.
From: USA | Registered: Oct 2003
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Gir Draxon
leftist-rightie and rightist-leftie
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posted 15 October 2003 01:35 AM
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If we did not limit pornography, she argued—before Internet technology made that prospect a technical impossibility
Too late. quote:
Now you have to offer—or flirtatiously suggest—the lesbian scene, the ejaculate-in-the-face scene. Being naked is not enough; you have to be buff, be tan with no tan lines, have the surgically hoisted breasts and the Brazilian bikini wax—just like porn stars.
Not necesarily. Although this is what the mainstream seems to promote, I hear there is big money in "amateur porn". It only makes sense that as porn stars get further and further away from reality, that some of the men who want to watch porn will want to watch real women instead of artificial porn stars. net devil: I don't think I understand you correctly... you are unable to form a decent relationship, yet you are married? Also, check out this thread for a discussion on this topic.
From: Arkham Asylum | Registered: Feb 2003
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Rebecca West
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posted 15 October 2003 09:59 AM
Naomi Woolf is operating from a false position. I don't see any studies quoted in her article, just "here is what young women tell me on college campuses when the subject comes up..." Yeah, right. Why does every discussion of pornography in the media seem to portray men as slavering mindless pornbots, unable to distinguish between fantasy and reality, and women as hopelessly "underattractive" hapless victims of mindless male sexual obsession? And what's this crap about our (I'm a year older than Ms. Wolf) generation being the last to have some kind of sexual currency with men? This is an ideal to aspire to? Holy f-ing Jebus, sexual power is about having choices, not about how-hot-are-you-to-the-average-guy.If we are to believe Wolf, relations between men and women are hopelessly mired in false ideals of attractiveness promoted by Internet pornography. Honey, relations between men and women have been hopelessly mired in some such shit or other forever and for always. It's nothing new. And Joe Average down the street? He doesn't have an Internet porn addiction. Know why? He's reasonably well-adjusted and doesn't have an addictive personality. As we know, there are men (and a few women I'm sure) who are addicted to pornography, are erotomaniacs, whatever, who debase and abuse their partners because their perspective is warped by constant exposure to erotic and pornographic fantasy images. Well, it takes a bit of a warped and misogynist world view to get to that point, doesn't it? Not to belittle the damge done by such people, but when you get to that place where your addictions wreak havoc on those close to you, you've got deeper problems than too-available porn on the 'Net. There's something missing from you - self-esteem, a balanced perspective, the ability to empathize. Those are complex problems in the nature of a personality disorder, with complex causes. Being hooked on porn and debasing women - those are symptoms. And college guys and girls? I work on a university campus and see how young men and women relate to each other. Things look pretty much the same as they did when I was in university in the 80s. If anything, this generation of men and women seem to relate to each other better than we did.
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Internet Devil
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posted 15 October 2003 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by Rebecca West:
As we know, there are men (and a few women I'm sure) who are addicted to pornography, are erotomaniacs, whatever, who debase and abuse their partners because their perspective is warped by constant exposure to erotic and pornographic fantasy images. Well, it takes a bit of a warped and misogynist world view to get to that point, doesn't it?
I disagree. Even though most of my sex life is online I never abuse my wife. If anything, I put no sexual pressure on her. If all my sex life was limited to my wife, there would have been a tremendous problem as she is 58 and I am (almost) 38. My libido is much greater then hers. As for misogyny, I do not think most adult material is antifemale. Besides, there are many cards which are antimale.
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