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Cueball
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posted 28 September 2004 02:05 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Saddam to Declare Candidacy for Iraqi Elections

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Overthrown Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein, who was arrested by US forces last December, reportedly plans to run as a candidate in the Iraqi elections scheduled for January 2005.

Saddam's lawyer Giovanni di Stefano told Denmark's B.T. newspaper that Saddam decided during one of their discussions that he would declare his candidacy for the elections.

Stefano said that there was no law that prevented Saddam from appearing on the ballot. He added that Saddam hopes to regain his presidency and palaces via the democratic process.


God has Groucho Marx as a stand in....


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JBG
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posted 29 September 2004 12:29 AM      Profile for JBG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What party will he run on? Does he favor rep by prop in the permanent constitution? What will his Throne Speech sound like?
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Patrick Mundy
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posted 29 September 2004 12:38 AM      Profile for Patrick Mundy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not even considering this guy until I've heard what he has to say in favour of women's rights, the environment and a plan to revitilize medicare and literacy.
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James
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posted 29 September 2004 12:39 AM      Profile for James        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JBG:
What party will he run on? Does he favor rep by prop in the permanent constitution? What will his Throne Speech sound like?

J B, as you well know, there are no parties nor platforms in Iraq. Obviously Saddam's counsel are advocating this tactic only as a means to demonstrate the sham and illegitimacy of any ellections held under present circumstances.


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posted 29 September 2004 12:55 AM      Profile for kingblake     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If he's elected, how would that influence his trial? Is a sitting president subject to trial?
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Doug
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posted 29 September 2004 01:02 AM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It'd be awfully amusing if he won, though I don't suppose that's likely.
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posted 29 September 2004 01:05 AM      Profile for Leftfield     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I thought this would be a link to theonion or something.

This once again proves, the truth is stranger than fiction.


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Patrick Mundy
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posted 29 September 2004 01:15 AM      Profile for Patrick Mundy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Last I heard he was running for the New Democratic Party of Iraq, promoting public housing/tents for all the poor people of Iraq.
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JBG
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posted 29 September 2004 01:17 AM      Profile for JBG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick Mundy:
Last I heard he was running for the New Democratic Party of Iraq, promoting public housing/tents for all the poor people of Iraq.


I think he'll propose something like the NEP. But the real question is, what should the safety standards be for plastic shredders?


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James
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posted 29 September 2004 01:21 AM      Profile for James        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
'xtrordinary, quite stroadinary, ... that someone registered here since March of ooh three would be so befuddled as to what site they were visitin'. Oh well, nevermind. You'll be nore lucid feelin' in the mornin'.
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Patrick Mundy
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posted 29 September 2004 01:23 AM      Profile for Patrick Mundy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JBG:


I think he'll propose something like the NEP. But the real question is, what should the safety standards be for plastic shredders?


Have the UN plastic shredder inspectors make sure that he's shredding plastic, not human remains.


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pogge
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posted 29 September 2004 01:58 AM      Profile for pogge   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by James:
J B, as you well know, there are no parties nor platforms in Iraq.

Iraqi National Accord, Iraqi National Congress, al-Da`wa (Shiite), Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI) and two Kurdish parties whose names escape me at the moment.


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Cueball
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posted 29 September 2004 02:14 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Uhh, wouldn't he run for the Ba'th party. Oh sorry that was disbanded.
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Patrick Mundy
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posted 29 September 2004 02:48 PM      Profile for Patrick Mundy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Cueball:
Uhh, wouldn't he run for the Ba'th party. Oh sorry that was disbanded.

I already told you, New Democratic Party of Iraq.


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posted 29 September 2004 02:58 PM      Profile for praenomen3        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
No kidding, there's movement in Britain's Tories to rename the party, and New Democrats has been floated as a possibility.
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Patrick Mundy
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posted 29 September 2004 03:05 PM      Profile for Patrick Mundy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've noticed that many parties with the term "Democrat" usually have an opposite stance towards democracy.

Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) for example.

New Democratic Party

and this German Democratic party that embraces Naziism.


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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 29 September 2004 03:06 PM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's a New Democracy Party in Greece and a National Democratic Party in Ghana, both of which use their initials... and both of which are both extremely right wing and extremely corrupt.
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Western Canadian Patriot
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posted 29 September 2004 09:52 PM      Profile for Western Canadian Patriot        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
God Bless Saddam Hussien! Hope he wins the election!

Off-course those Americans bastards won't allow that!


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Sinistral
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posted 29 September 2004 10:24 PM      Profile for Sinistral        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I hear that all the Iraqi mullahs are asking that there be a space on the ballot for a write-in candidate vote, to make the elections truly democratic.

If the Americans agree, then there is still hope for Saddam. Then we could anticipate another Iraqi invasion by Prez Jeb Bush too.


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Jesse Hoffman
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posted 29 September 2004 11:15 PM      Profile for Jesse Hoffman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, better the devil you know...

[ 29 September 2004: Message edited by: Jesse Hoffman ]


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kukuchai
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posted 29 September 2004 11:32 PM      Profile for kukuchai        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I heard the other day (maybe on the CBC) that the real Saddam was killed early on in the war.

Do the Americans have one of Saddam's stand-ins?

Or is the real Saddam sipping Mai-Tais on a beach in Tahiti whilst watching the war on CNN?

Just a thought!


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Michelle
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posted 29 September 2004 11:38 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've got an idea. How be we let the trolls take over this thread, and we quietly tiptoe out the back door?
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Sharon
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arborman
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posted 30 September 2004 12:01 AM      Profile for arborman     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, I imagine Iraqis will want to 'stay the course' and go with the president they know. Many would no doubt prefer a 'wrong and strong' president over a 'right and weak' leader. Can't go changing horses in midstream now.

OK, sure, Hussein had some part in getting them into this nasty war , and he probably lied to them on occasion. He certainly locked up hundreds if not thousands of people without trial, legal representation or even charges. No doubt he raided the public treasury to enrich his friends and family, but hey, who wouldn't?

The main thing is to be secure. Nevermind the devastated economy, the regular dying, the poverty, failing health system, all that stuff. People need to feel secure, from big bad scary things like IRAQ'S ENEMIES. So they will want to stick with their 'war president.' In fact, expressing doubt about him is tantamount to treason, since it would amount to giving succor to the ENEMIES OF IRAQ!

So get with God, you traitors, and support the president! Because if you don't, you hate democracy and freedom.


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Patrick Mundy
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posted 30 September 2004 01:19 AM      Profile for Patrick Mundy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Western Canadian Patriot:
God Bless Saddam Hussien! Hope he wins the election!

Off-course those Americans bastards won't allow that!


You sir, are interesting.


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posted 30 September 2004 02:00 AM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
I heard the other day (maybe on the CBC) that the real Saddam was killed early on in the war.
Do the Americans have one of Saddam's stand-ins?

Or is the real Saddam sipping Mai-Tais on a beach in Tahiti whilst watching the war on CNN?

Just a thought!


As everyone knows Saddam a series of look-alike stand ins partly as a security precaution.

Near the end of the war the Chair of the Revolutionary Command Council called in all of the look alikes for a meeting. He informed then that it was true that Saddam's bunker had been attacked. He told them that the good news was the their glorious leader was still alive. After a round of applause he then told them that the bad news was that Saddam had lost an arm.


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JBG
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posted 30 September 2004 02:51 AM      Profile for JBG     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How would he handle a vote of no confidence? Dissolve the parliamentarians (in acid) as well as the Parliament?

[ 30 September 2004: Message edited by: JBG ]


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posted 30 September 2004 02:57 AM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by JBG:
How would he handle a vote of no confidence? Dissolve the parliamentarians (in acid) as well as the Parliament?

[ 30 September 2004: Message edited by: JBG ]


Heh. Credit where it's due. Morbid but funny.

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posted 30 September 2004 04:28 AM      Profile for Vansterdam Kid   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Arborman how dare you sir! How dare you insinuate that not having a 'War President'(tm) is important! I'm outraged!!! See I'm using these !!! multiple times *fist waiving*.

Seriously though, I'm confused is he really going to be allowed to stand for re-election? Who the hell would vote for him? Eh who cares it's more fun to make fun of this. Mabye he can run under the banner of the 'New Republican Guard Party'. Or the 'Conservative Alliance for Traditional Iraqi Value's Party'. Well he'd have to invent them, but that should be little to no problem for him.


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posted 30 September 2004 06:16 AM      Profile for fuslim     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You know, no one remains in power for 30 or so years without satisfying some sector of the population. Fear by itself doesn't make it.

Saddam was of Sunni ethnicity and doubtless spread a fair bit of butter around that part of town.

It's also true that Iraq was the most western of Middle Eastern Arab countries prior to the Gulf war.

It was certainly not a Islamic republic, although towards the end Hussein tried to shore up his support by pretending to be somewhat more of a Muslim ('course that's no different than the phony Christianity of George Bush).

Now it seems as if Iraq is headed towards a breakup, with probably a northern Kurdish state, a central Sunni state, and a southern Shia state.

One of the interesting comments of a Pentagon adviser was that "thirty years of Ba'athist rule had given Iraqi's a national identity that superseded their tribal and religious identities."

That will be all gone, and replaced with endless ethnic fighting, and increasing religious intolerance.

Ultimately death and destruction will be the Iraqi's lot from now until whenever...thanks to US foreign policy.

I believe it can be shown that the US prefers this outcome to any other, and deliberately planned for it. As long as there's chaos in Iraq, the biggest military (US occupation army) will have effective control over the oil.

Democracy would be the end of US control of Iraqi oil, and the US will do anything to prevent that from happening.

Will Saddam run for election? Who knows.

However, it is for the people of Iraq to decide who runs their country, and who controls their oil.

[ 30 September 2004: Message edited by: fuslim ]


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posted 30 September 2004 08:25 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
However, it is for the people of Iraq to decide who runs their country, and who controls their oil.

heh. yah, right.


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posted 30 September 2004 12:06 PM      Profile for Rich L     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kukuchai:
I heard the other day (maybe on the CBC) that the real Saddam was killed early on in the war.

Do the Americans have one of Saddam's stand-ins?

Or is the real Saddam sipping Mai-Tais on a beach in Tahiti whilst watching the war on CNN?

Just a thought!


Yeah, Saddam had some radical plastic surgery done to change his appearance. Last I heard he was living in the U.S. and active politically there under an assumed name... I can't remember... I think it was Kerry something or other...


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Patrick Mundy
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posted 30 September 2004 01:14 PM      Profile for Patrick Mundy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That would explain why he wants to pull U.S. forces out of Iraq
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posted 30 September 2004 04:02 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh and you don't?
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Briguy
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He wants the US troops to continue dying, I guess.
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posted 01 October 2004 12:22 AM      Profile for intheright        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick Mundy:
Last I heard he was running for the New Democratic Party of Iraq, promoting public housing/tents for all the poor people of Iraq.

hahahaha! funny.
He also wanted to make some new tent/hovel Crown Corporations -- IraqTent. If anything, running for an Iraqi New Democratic Party would certainly cause people to leave the territory, because thats what they do under NDP rule.


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posted 01 October 2004 12:37 AM      Profile for Gir Draxon     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Patrick Mundy:

You sir, are interesting.


If by "interesting" you mean sarcastic...


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