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thwap
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posted 18 December 2004 01:43 PM      Profile for thwap        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Chile's Pinochet 'suffers stroke'
Former Chilean President Augusto Pinochet has been taken to hospital after suffering a stroke, doctors say.
"His vital signs are stable, and he has made a partial and conscious recovery," a statement from the Santiago hospital said. He is to remain in hospital.

Judge Juan Guzman ruled on Monday that the former leader was fit to stand trial on alleged human rights abuses during his 17 years of military rule.

His lawyers are contesting the ruling and a verdict is due next Monday.


From BBC News

and I added:

quote:
Chilean officials then decided to end the interminable debates over Pinochet's legal status by wheeling out the muttering, grumbling murderer's wheelchair and firing six bullets into the old fascist thief's heart.

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lagatta
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posted 18 December 2004 02:00 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Videla has also suffered a stroke! It is a Coño Sur old fascists' epidemic! Argentine junta head suffers stroke

I know I may not be a good babbler, but I'm sure as hell not crying about the sufferings of either of those fascist murdering bastards.

[ 18 December 2004: Message edited by: lagatta ]


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skdadl
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posted 18 December 2004 02:31 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
These were two of the great villains of my adult life.

Every time either one of them makes the news for any reason, I am glad that more and more people are drawn into learning the history of their evil regimes, their evil conspiracies, and above all their dependence on an even more powerful source of international evil in Washington, DC.

At the same time, I think that their deaths are irrelevant. We all die. Death is not retribution (unless one is murdered for that reason).

Trying them would be justice. Or if they die first, then writing out the record as fully as possible for future generations is justice.

But we all die, and to spin metaphors from death or illness is to indulge a dangerous superstition.


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Hephaestion
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posted 18 December 2004 02:57 PM      Profile for Hephaestion   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As soon as I heard that the SOB had been charged I was EXPECTING to hear that his "health" had taken some sudden "turn for the worse" that would preclude prosecuting the fascist bastard on "humanitarian grounds".

I think the Romanians had the best solution to old-dictator-disposal. Take him for a walk in the back garden... That's all he deserves.


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Fidel
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posted 18 December 2004 03:09 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's so very true, Skdadl. Their mangey, worthless, evil carcasses aren't worth the powder to blow them all to hell. But just as we are all obligated by decency and respect for humanity to try Nazi war criminals for their crimes, so too is it mandatory that these bastards be made to admit their crimes to the world. There is no statute of limitations on murder in most nations, and all of the "Operation Condor" fascist bastards should be made to answer for their crimes. Instead, the son-of-a-bitch was allowed to sit across the way from socialist MP's whose family members and associates were murdered on his orders.


The "doctor", Henry Kissinger, and all of Washington's Latin American accomplices to fascism and murder should be arraigned on charges of crimes against humanity. May their blood scream for all eternity.


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skdadl
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posted 18 December 2004 03:19 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Kissinger is still ambulatory and compos. Above all, I would love to see him brought to justice, but we all know that that isn't going to happen.

One small consolation: given what happened to Pinochet in Britain ten (?) years ago, I suspect that major American criminals like Kissinger have felt more and more sorely constrained to stay in the U.S., not to travel abroad much. Who knows? But I like to think that Henry knows that he is not welcome anywhere else any more, forever.


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'lance
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posted 18 December 2004 03:29 PM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
One small consolation: given what happened to Pinochet in Britain ten (?) years ago...

[ pendantry ]

Seems that way, but in fact it was only six.

[ /pendantry ]


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skdadl
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posted 18 December 2004 03:35 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yer kidding.

No, yer not. Me and my memory. I knew that the arrest happened while we were there, which was fall of 1998. Was that only six years ago? It feels like ... forever.


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Pariah
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posted 31 December 2004 10:51 PM      Profile for Pariah     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lagatta:
[QB]Videla has also suffered a stroke! It is a Coño Sur old fascists' epidemic!

Hi there! Just wanted to let you know that "Coño Sur" means "South Cunt", heh, you mean "Cono Sur" (how did your keyboard grow an "ñ", anyway?)

Happy new year from Spain, everyone! Yes, I'm pretty drunk right now, don't ask.

Salud!


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lagatta
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posted 31 December 2004 11:35 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You are right, but you are also very rude. Why the hell shouldn't my keyboard have accents? It isn't a bloody English one.

I am wondering why I made such a Freudian slip though - we have joked about the little n and its moustache many a time


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Fidel
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posted 31 December 2004 11:44 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, but is "Quando Quando" Italiano or Spanish ?. That's a great song.

Happy almost new year everyone.

salut!


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Pariah
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posted 01 January 2005 12:04 AM      Profile for Pariah     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by lagatta:
You are right, but you are also very rude. Why the hell shouldn't my keyboard have accents? It isn't a bloody English one.

I am wondering why I made such a Freudian slip though - we have joked about the little n and its moustache many a time



I'm sorry, lagatta. Being rude was the last thing on my mind, I assure you. I just found it funny, that's all. Again, i'm sorry if I offended you.

Fidel: about the song, yeah, I think I know the one, and it's Italian. In Spanish it's "Cuando".


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Briguy
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posted 05 January 2005 04:00 PM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Supreme court rules Pinochet 'fit for trial'.

Yay! What else can Ralph Klein's hero do to delay justice?

quote:
Chile's supreme court yesterday upheld the indictment and house arrest of General Augusto Pinochet for nine kidnappings and one homicide allegedly committed during his long dictatorship.
The court's 3-2 vote cleared the way for Pinochet to be tried on the latest charges of human rights abuses during his 1973-90 regime.

"The sentence ... has been confirmed," the court secretary, Carlos Meneses, said, referring to Pinochet's appeal.


[ 05 January 2005: Message edited by: Briguy ]


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jeff house
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posted 05 January 2005 06:03 PM      Profile for jeff house     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The indictments concern Operation Condor, which was an international effort involving the military governments of Argentina, Urugay and Chile.

Some even say that the CIA was involved!!!!

And many say that Henry Kissinger was quite close to the whole endeavour; maybe Pinochet could be persuaded to testify on that subject?


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Fidel
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posted 05 January 2005 06:50 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The CIA said that Allende committed suicide ... with 20 some odd bullet holes in his back. The CIA's was the dirtiest bag of tricks, keeping secret files on several thousand American's, wire tapping telephones, opening people's mail, approving the Watergate burglary, foreign assassinations, dirty wars on democratically elected governments etcetera. They've got annual budgets larger than most countries GDP's.
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HeywoodFloyd
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posted 05 January 2005 07:09 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Unlike the Stasi, KGB, NKVD,GRU,UDBA, and DINA who never kept files on millions of their citizens.
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Fidel
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posted 05 January 2005 07:36 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Was it the KGB and Soviets who bombed 21 countries since Nagasaki and Hiroshima ?. Was it the KGB who bombed schools and hospitals in Latin America, Heywood ?. Did the KGB drop millions of gallons of agent orange on Vietnam ?.

And which of those nations is more democratic for it ?.

We want kissinger!. We want the doctor, we want ...

[ 05 January 2005: Message edited by: Fidel ]


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HeywoodFloyd
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posted 05 January 2005 07:54 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Danger Will Robinson. Rocky channel ahead. It's full of files. Millions upon millions of files. Change course now. NOW.
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Coyote
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posted 05 January 2005 07:57 PM      Profile for Coyote   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
Unlike the Stasi, KGB, NKVD,GRU,UDBA, and DINA who never kept files on millions of their citizens.

None of whom, of course, are or were Allende, a democratically elected head of state.

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clandestiny
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posted 05 January 2005 08:31 PM      Profile for clandestiny     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
for those who have never heard this, and regardless of the means....robert d'aubisson the fascist prick in el salvador who supposedly was involved in archbishop romero's murder, didn't realize he had angered some heavyweights in the roman catholic church, including reagan cia chief william casey (can anyone believe it, but casey was a devout mass going catholic?)...the story i read, though barely remembered, was that catholic activists in the cia arranged to have d'aubisson infected with stomach cancer...d'aubisson died horribly.... btw so did samoza even after he fled to paraguay lol too bad kissinger is beyond such earthly justice...
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Fidel
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posted 05 January 2005 09:11 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Imperialist stooges never prosper, from Hitler to the Shah(cancer) and now bin Laden.
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Cueball
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posted 05 January 2005 09:55 PM      Profile for Cueball   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They blowed up Samoza.
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