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Montreal Fashion Week organizers say underweight models will not be permitted to walk the runway owing to concerns over poor nutrition and eating disorders in the industry.

Organizers said Monday that models with a low body mass index — a calculation based on a person's weight to height ratio — or those who show signs of having an eating disorder will be pulled from the clothing trade show in Montreal running Oct. 9 to 11.

Models who do not meet the weight standard will be encouraged to seek professional help. The United Nations suggests healthy adults should have a BMI of between 18.5 and 25.

Montreal organizers also said models under the age of 16 will not be allowed to participate.

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Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
I would hope so.

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Do you think it is a good idea for young women to be inundated with imagery that says you must starve yourself to be beautiful?

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Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
Gee did you notice this was a progressive board.

Do you think it is a good idea for young women to be inundated with imagery that says you must starve yourself to be beautiful?

Do you believe that we should sexualize girls under the age of 16?

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If you were referring to me, I am beyond progressive.

I will not give kudos to someone who does not deserve it.

I don't exploit starved underaged girls, either, but you don't see me expecting applause for that.

It's like giving a medal to every person who has never stolen from or raped or killed somebody.

These people have blood on their hands directly or indirectly with what the old job qualifications were. They get no praise from me.

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Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
Gee that explains a whole lot more than your cryptic response. Sorry for falling for that troll I should no better.

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I was being sarcastic in my first reponse.

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Originally posted by kropotkin1951:
Now that I know you are beyond progressive I am in total awe. Almost shock and awe but not quite.

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You'd think, as a fat person, that I would be 100% in support of this, but I'm not - not 100%. Because while I'm certainly not crying a river for underweight women, who are FAR more socially acceptable than fat women, and who certainly don't receive even a hundredth of the social sanction that fat women do, I don't like the idea of turning very thin bodies into pariahs as some sort of attempt at equalization, or rehabilitation of the image of fat bodies.

That said, underweight bodies are the industry norm, and that should be fought against. So perhaps a few shows without underweight bodies (or with underweight bodies in the vast minority) would be good.

I'll be impressed when they start having ALL sizes of bodies in these shows, integrated. As it stands now, very very thin bodies are way, way overrepresented, sprinkled with the occasional moderately very thin bodies. Fat bodies are relegated to Fat Lady Clothing shows, and most of the time even those bodies are simply average as opposed to truly fat.

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Originally posted by Michelle:
...as an adult woman, I find it offensive to my intelligence and my body to be offered clothing for women that only looks right if you've got no boobs or hips.

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You know this contrary propaganda imagery for women is really a mental dissonance.

Sold clothes by way of ultra slim models with no hips or chest, and yet sex "goddess" with big boobs are sold to men, by way of magazines, and thus foster the implant craze with women.

It seems ya have to be either or for "esteem" issues to met!

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Originally posted by Michelle:
You'd think, as a fat person, that I would be 100% in support of this, but I'm not - not 100%. Because while I'm certainly not crying a river for underweight women, who are FAR more socially acceptable than fat women, and who certainly don't receive even a hundredth of the social sanction that fat women do, I don't like the idea of turning very thin bodies into pariahs as some sort of attempt at equalization, or rehabilitation of the image of fat bodies.

That said, underweight bodies are the industry norm, and that should be fought against. So perhaps a few shows without underweight bodies (or with underweight bodies in the vast minority) would be good.

I'll be impressed when they start having ALL sizes of bodies in these shows, integrated. As it stands now, very very thin bodies are way, way overrepresented, sprinkled with the occasional moderately very thin bodies. Fat bodies are relegated to Fat Lady Clothing shows, and most of the time even those bodies are simply average as opposed to truly fat.

So, my feelings on this are mixed. Some women have naturally extremely thin bodies. Most women have to starve themselves and throw up in order to have an extremely thin body. But for those who are naturally extremely thin, I don't want to see their bodies turned into the New Fatso.[/QB]

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I'm no fan of Britney, but when they said she was "fat," I just shook my head. I remember the same thing with Alicia Silverstone happened about a decade before.

Personally, I'd rather be overweight than underweight, but I am willing to bet that the majority of those models starve themselves and have to do a lot of hard drugs to get that sickeningly thin to get work. Their bodies do not look naturally thin to me.

That's beyond abusive.

I know when I see someone *that* thin, I automatically think "eating disorder" and get told I'm overly sensitive, then lo and behold, years later, the person admits to having one.

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Originally posted by remind:
And Michelle, having saw pictures of you, I hardly would call you fat, and for some reason I have issues with you calling yourself so.

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Though those that do not know me, seem to see me as an over weight person and treat me as such.