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UBDmedia
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posted 06 September 2003 09:47 PM      Profile for UBDmedia   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Today, during frosh week activities, a student house at 519 York Street near UNB in Fredericton was fronted by a large sign that read:

"Thank you for your daughters!"

The same hijinks repeat every year. The male students on the lawn out front drank beer and shouted "f*gg*ts" and "p*ss*es" at any critics who walked past. Eventually, a passer by ripped down the sign.

UNB received a women's centre for the first time last year. The LBGT student organization still doesn't have an office or a phone line.

For info on making university campuses safe, checkout:

http://www.metrac.org

To contact UNB administration to express concern about attitudes toward women and gay men on campus, please email: [email protected]


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Sine Ziegler
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posted 07 September 2003 12:58 PM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What does the Student's Union think? Is there a clubs co-ordinator who can sanction the LGBT club in?> I remember when I was on campus, we had a hard time starting up the Campus NDs but I found a sympathetic Clubs Co-ordinator who allowed us to bypass most of the rules and we even got to share an office with the other political clubs.

Are the Frat Houses cool at UNB? Because at my school, nobody took them seriously and most people thought they were losers. Does administration have much control over them?

An LGBT club with an LGBT awareness week would be awesome for UNB. Most campuses are quite LGBT friendly and UNB definitely needs to get into the 21st century.

Women's centre - same thing goes. Don't you think the Student's Union/association can help with that? I doubt admin would do a lot other than collect your tuition.


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posted 07 September 2003 01:07 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It certainly is a sexist sign. But "Thank-you for your daughters" doesn't necessarily refer to rape.

I remember about a decade ago at Queen's there were big signs hung from a male dormitory that said, "No means more beer!" in response to the "No means no" campaign by women's groups. That's pretty unmistakable.

As for the rest - sounds like that university is back in the stone age. Best of luck to you while you drag them kicking and screaming into the late 20th century, much less the 21st. Sorry to hear there is such a hostile environment there.

[ 07 September 2003: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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beluga2
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posted 07 September 2003 09:18 PM      Profile for beluga2     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Fortunately, the university I went to didn't have fraternities. Thank God.

My impression from other places which do have them is that the only people who think they're cool are the frat-members themselves. Everyone else thinks they're a buncha dicks. I believe "frat rats" is a common term of contempt.


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posted 08 September 2003 12:06 AM      Profile for ghoris     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I always saw them as a bunch of guys whose parents were paying for them to have friends, myself.
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posted 08 September 2003 02:57 PM      Profile for trasie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The University of Calgary used to have a women's centre - it disappeared a few years ago, and now a group of awesome women are trying to get it back again.

quote:

As some of you may know, we are trying to start a Women's Centre at U of C. We will be meeting this Thursday, September 11th to start planning a General Meeting about this topic. The meeting will be held in at 1:00 in the afternoon in the Social Sciences Building (3rd floor - look for Fiona Nelson's Office). Please let us know if you can come, or email [email protected] with questions - and spread the word! We need all the help we can get with this one . . .

I wonder what the change in atmosphere on campus has been. I know that the Women's Centre was one of the best experiences in my years there.

Oh, and these same women are the driving force behind the Take Back The Night march this year. It's good to see that the work is continually built on, and that we aren't having to completely re-create our herstory!

Trasie


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posted 08 September 2003 09:02 PM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That is wicked about the Women's Centre at UofC. I don't recall there being one when I was student there.
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posted 09 September 2003 12:32 AM      Profile for wei-chi   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The University of Saskatchewan Students' Union operates and funds a Women's Centre (which has been around for about 20 years or so), I think to the tune of about $30,000 a year.

It runs some awesome peer support groups and has a library on Women and Gender issues of over a thousand books.


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posted 09 September 2003 10:47 AM      Profile for vickyinottawa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If I ever win the lottery, I'm building a women's centre at STFX. If there's one university in Canada that cries out for a safe space for women, it's X. Of course, I graduated 15 years ago, but I can't imagine it's changed that much.
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posted 09 September 2003 12:18 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
...duplication deleted...

[ 09 September 2003: Message edited by: Mandos ]


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posted 09 September 2003 12:19 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Umm...what's STFX. I can't for the life of me expand the acronym.

One day on a magazine stand, I saw a headline on that "fitness" magazine "Men's Health" about college rankings...ie, "Best and Worst Colleges for Men." Guess what a very big minus for a college was? A women's centre on campus. Means that there are scary feminists and men should avoid that campus...

IIRC another minus was if the college had a "sex code" (read: anti-date-rape code).


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posted 09 September 2003 12:24 PM      Profile for Lima Bean   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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posted 09 September 2003 01:34 PM      Profile for vickyinottawa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
St. Francis Xavier University
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Mandos
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posted 09 September 2003 01:44 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Oh. That's the first time I've heard of it before. Thanks.
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NP
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posted 10 September 2003 01:45 PM      Profile for NP   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Mulroney went there.
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posted 10 September 2003 02:34 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lots of friends of mine went to STFX. And lots of them have horrible sexual assault stories. The school paper reported on a gang-rape that some members of the hockey team had been involved in. The paper was delivered from the printers and disappeared before it could be distributed.

p.s. It's a Catholic university.

[ 10 September 2003: Message edited by: audra estrones ]


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posted 10 September 2003 02:57 PM      Profile for vickyinottawa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
In my first year (1984 - Mulroney's 25th homecoming year!!), the paper tried to publish a condom ad. Now, this was before AIDS was really known, but safe sex was becoming an issue on campuses. Condom ads were just beginning to run in campus newspapers through CUP's ad service.

The editor made the mistake of telling the student union VP they'd accepted the ad after the paper had gone to the printers but before it had actually been printed. The VP went out to the printer, halted the process, removed the ad and replaced it with a really lame cartoon.

Then he made the mistake of gloating to the editor before the printed copies were distributed on campus. The editorial staff and other newspaper types rounded up all the copies as soon as they left the delivery trucks, took them down to the office and wrote "S.U. Censored condom ad here" on the cartoon. Then the papers were distributed in the usual fashion.

Of course, I joined the newspaper staff right away after that.

Don't even get me started on the rape stories..... that place was horrible. But they all went to mass at 5pm on Sunday, like good Catholics!


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posted 11 September 2003 05:31 PM      Profile for Gayle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's a catholic university, really? I should have known, I suppose. Think very small town known for the university and for being on the bus/driving route between cape breton and halifax.

ALL of my high school and most of my university professors (the ones who weren't from another country, that is) wore X rings. It's a status symbol 'round these here parts, although I suppose it's only slightly above the University of Crayons and Colouring Books. Which is where I graduated.


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posted 12 September 2003 01:10 PM      Profile for trasie     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This just in:

[http://calgary.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=ca_ad20030912]Bar Ad Causes Stir on Campus[/URL]

quote:
Emily Elder, a fourth-year student who is trying to start a women's resource centre on campus, is organizing a letter-writing campaign to protest the ad.

Trasie

[ 15 September 2003: Message edited by: trasie ]


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Not surprising for this shithole town. These cowboy bars are the worst sort of primal mating grounds. Civilization definitely skipped over Calgary.
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posted 12 September 2003 01:23 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I get a Java exception from that link.
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posted 15 September 2003 12:37 AM      Profile for UBDmedia   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
the link to 'bar ad causes stir on campus' doesn't seem to be working anymore?
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Does Audra think that the a Catholic universtiy is a proponent of rape? If not why does she post, that this particular institute of higher learning is one of catholic affiliation?
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posted 16 September 2003 09:51 AM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
If you're wondering if I'm implying that Catholic institutions don't deal well with handling sexual assault crises, wonder no longer.
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The non-catholic ones are not so great either. I went to Dal and the administration did not bother to tell us that there had been at least one rape on the campus grounds behind the Killam library during my first year. They knew that men were exposing themselves to women on campus and hiding in the bushes and poorly lit areas, but did nothing. I would bet that those nice, dark stairwells over by the Killam are still nice and dark with those lovely shrubs at the top. My friends and I never walked alone there after having to calm down some floor mates who had a man scare them there.
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I think there are problems with sexual assault in all universities. However, X is - or at least was - a bit unique in that it is a public university over which the church still weilds a great degree of influence. The Bishop of Antigonish is the chancellor. When I was there, most of the senior administrative officers were priests, including the Dean of Student Affairs. There was one condom machine on the entire campus - in the guy's washroom in the campus bar. There was no sexual harassment policy for the campus. The climate was pretty frosty in general - plus there were some well-known and very clear-cut cases of date rape (some involving "clubs" of voyeurs) for which the rapists received absolutely no discipline. This doesn't make it easy for women to come forward.

There are different kinds of catholicism. St.FX is often associated with the more progressive, globally-minded, development-oriented type, mostly because of the Coady Institute. But there is also the conservative, intolerant, patriarchal kind as well, and unfortunately that strain runs deep in the bureaucracy in Antigonish, and seeped in to the day-to-day life at X more than I could have ever imagined. The sexism that pervaded campus life was, in my mind, intimately connected with the catholic nature of the university.

The silver lining: I learned how to become an activist, and became a much more vocal feminist as well!


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The person who posts the "Parents: Thank you for your daughters" sign works at the Smythe St. Superstore (it's a small town). He is not a student.

UNB is presently spending approx. 10, 000$ to conduct a safety audit. There are focus groups meeting on Wednesday, Sept 24th. The "visible minorities" meeting is at 6 pm; the women meet at 8 pm.

We should be demanding:
-FREE self-defense classes for women. (There are presently about a dozen different classes on how to "shape and tone" your butt, but not a one on how to kick butt).
-No more selling of magazines on campus that depict women as sexual objects.
-Safety phones everywhere.
-No more sponsoring of strip shows in residences on campus.
-Mandatory sensitivity training for all faculty, staff, Student Union reps., society heads, residence heads, etc.

Please contact your own Student Union or Women's Centre for more info. on how to make your campus safer.

Fortunately, there are also groups like the Sexual Assault Crisis Centre, Spectrum, Men Against Sexual Aggression (MASA), the Women's Centre, etc. with whom you get involved in Fredericton.


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As a current student at StFX, I'd like to address some of the posts on here. While StFx has Catholic roots and is in a very Catholic town, there has been a lot of progress made in recent years from the sounds of what people are talking about on here. Now, I am by no means saying X is perfect because it's not, but it has come a long way. For instance, Sue Johansen from the Sunday Night Sex show had done shows on campus for the past few years. There have been complaints made about this by a small minority of students but the show is very popular with the majority of students. Condoms are given out to all the residences by the Students' Union and the SU, Residence staff, and administration take an active role in initiating discussion and awareness about sexual assault, rape, and date rape drugs by holding panel discussions, self defense classes etc. There is more that could be done but part of the problem is also the apathy of students who fail to participate in what the university offers.
I guess what I am trying to say is that while X has strong Catholic traditions and roots it is proactive in addressing situations concering sex and sexual assault. The current university president is not a priest and neither is any of the admin. There's still more to be done but there is a lot being done.

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posted 27 September 2003 02:50 PM      Profile for Sine Ziegler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Calgary is quite civilized. There's only a handful of cowboy bars and they are fun. I don't think Calgary is much different than other cities in terms of feminism.
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