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Michelle
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posted 01 May 2007 08:32 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
My union elected a new president, Smokey Thomas. Check it out.

Anyhow, just curious what people think. Any OPSEU members out there? I was hoping David Rapaport would win, personally.


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posted 01 May 2007 01:28 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Back in Kingston Smokey made a point of being buddies with the Chamber of Commerce and various management partnership schemes and also broke with the rest of the union movement and the left in supporting the "LVEC" project, a privately run sports facility built with public money and destroying a beautiful stretch of downtown in the process.

See this article in Kingston's independent paper

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Local union eyebrows were raised when Smokey Thomas of the Ontario Public Service Employees Union (OPSEU) helped the Chamber of Commerce with a media spot during the most recent flap over the Big Rink (a.k.a. the LVEC). Thomas, a onetime local unionist who has made a career for himself at the OPSEU head office in Toronto, backed the Build It Now crowd anxious to get the Rink built.

Thomas is in the midst of an OPSEU political battle, running for president of the big Ontario public-service union. (OPSEU in-fighting can get so nasty that some labour-watchers call it the Lebanon of the Labour Movement.) Thomas claimed he was backing the controversial Rink to support construction workers and because he was worried about the City getting sued.

The creeping privatization of public-sector jobs is a huge challenge for public-sector unions. The Big Rink is being built with public money. It will be owned by the City of Kingston. But will the people working there be members of Local 109 of the Canadian Union of Public Employees, the union that represents City workers? Or will they work for lower wages and fewer benefits as employees of Arcturus, the company running the Rink?

Odd that a public-service union leader would be such a militant backer of what could well be one of the Public/Private Partnerships that so worry unions like OPSEU and CUPE.

“In the last election the Labour Council supported candidates based, among others things, on their opposition to privatization,” said Council vice-president Debi Wells. “They happened to be the same people who have been critical of the LVEC.”



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posted 05 May 2007 05:20 AM      Profile for robbie_dee     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OMG Did OPSEU just elect this guy???


[ 05 May 2007: Message edited by: robbie_dee ]


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posted 05 May 2007 09:28 AM      Profile for Polunatic2   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
He'll always be Smokey

According to this article, the "big rink" had the support of the Kingston Labour Council but there was a disagreement over location.

There are a number of people within OPSEU who are optimistic that the political space will now expand and that the days of the politics of exclusion may be over. Time will tell.

While I was also a (disappointed) Rapaport supporter, I think the outcome was "second best" for those hoping for a more membership-driven union.

While overall it was a fairly "clean" campaign (in OPSEU terms - we used to be called the Lebanon of the labour movement), Rapaport was subject to months of whispering about him being "too old" to run for president. This came from the Casselman camp as they attempted to paint their status quo candidate (Nancy Pridham) as young with fresh ideas.

Casselman politicized her own retirement in a number of ways which will end up hurting her legacy. She had her tribute dinner moved to the night before the election (instead of after the election when the banquet is usually held) and used it to promote her candidate in numerous ways. It was quite the spectacle.

She wore her candidates button on the podium of convention while the balloting was still underway. She allowed staff - including at least one of her Executive assistants - to openly campaign for her candidate. She condoned a former OPSEU leader who is now in the #2 spot at the OFL to openly campaign and be on the floor of Convention. She tried to strong arm scrutineers and supporters of her opponents into removing their buttons or backing out of scrutineering.

In the end, none of this did any good except to prevent Rapaport from going against Thomas on the final ballot.

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Michelle
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posted 05 May 2007 10:00 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Wow, the things you miss when you don't go to convention. I'm sorry David didn't win, but it sounds like I should also be glad that Casselman's handpicked successor didn't either. That seems kind of dirty to me, allowing staff to actively campaign for one candidate over another. Is that a normal thing?

I think I like this too:

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Thomas ran on a platform that included not having ties to any one political party.

“We will not practise partisan politics,” he said.

In the past, the union had been closely associated with the New Democratic Party. At the 2006 convention, delegates voted against a motion that would have formalized ties with the party.

“You look at the Steelworkers or the [Canadian Auto Workers] and they are pro-NDP,” said Kathy Smith, president of Local 468, which represents about 750 government workers in Kingston.

“As a general rule, OPSEU is pro-NDP as well.”

Thomas said he will sit down with provincial leaders to get a feel for each party’s platforms. Thomas said he believes the union could work in conjunction with the NDP, but said the union will generate issues based on its members’ needs.

Past performances, such as the Bob Rae years and decisions by the Tory years of Mike Harris and Ernie Eves won’t be considered, Thomas said. He said the primary factor will be the platform each party provides and what each would do for his union.

“The members’ interests are first,” he said.


From what I've read so far, as a member but not an insider and not overly "in the know" about the inside politics, it sounds like Smokey will be a decent leader.

P.S. Is there any movement within OPSEU to try to make it one-member-one-vote? I don't like the delegate system.

[ 05 May 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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posted 05 May 2007 10:27 AM      Profile for Polunatic2   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One member one vote came to Convention a few years ago and was overwhelming throunced. However, it could be time to re-visit the issue. There are some problems with it - e.g. the incumbent has a huge advantage because they're in the news (hopefully) and they can travel on official business which boosts their profile. For less than 500 out of 120,000 people to decide on the president and vp is a lot of power.

As for political action, I have always opposed the "funnel" view of politics - i.e. that the union outsources all of its political action to a political party at election time by providing them with lots of money and resources but with no accountability.

While I would support endorsing and giving assistance to all NDP incumbents (who have been strong voices for OPSEU at the legislature), I'd like to see the main focus this year on the YES campaign for proportional representation. In the long run, pr will do more for working people than any one party in any one election.

OPSEU's convention almost unanimously endorsed the Citizen's Assembly proposal so that puts us in good stead. The message to the President and the board was clear.

Time will tell if Smokey is able to take the union where it needs to go but at least people won't be automatically excluded because of who they talk to or where they live. That will be refreshing. It's honeymoon time.


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posted 05 May 2007 01:59 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Polunatic2:
One member one vote came to Convention a few years ago and was overwhelming throunced.

By nominated delegates? Understandable!

I agree with you on the rest.


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posted 05 May 2007 03:41 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Who was Casselman backing?
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posted 06 May 2007 05:48 AM      Profile for Polunatic2   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Casselman was backing Toronto board member Nancy Pridham.

Yes, the elected delegates decided not to extend the franchise to the entire membership.


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posted 06 May 2007 06:27 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I take your point on "elected delegates". (And that was the word I was looking for when I wrote "nominated" delegates - sorry about that.)

But the truth is, when you elect your delegates, you don't know what they stand for or how they're going to vote on any particular issue, and they could easily change their mind at convention anyhow. There's no obligation on the part of the delegates to represent the opinions of the local, and no way to ensure they do. So really, the election of delegates seems to be little more than a popularity contest.

[Edited to get rid of scare quotes around "elect" - I wasn't being sarcastic.]

[ 06 May 2007: Message edited by: Michelle ]


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posted 06 May 2007 06:47 AM      Profile for Polunatic2   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's a little more complicated than that. Local presidents are automatic delegates. There are almost 500 locals. Then you've got elected board and other committee members for 63 more.

That leaves less than half the delegates to be elected locally (some do and some don't). A few (but not many) locals direct their delegates to vote for this or that candidate but most leave it up to the delegates.

Regional leaders (board members) hold significant sway over some delegates. In this election we saw that happen in Eastern Ontario (Smokey's region),the near and far north, South-western Ontario (went to Pridham) and Casselman's region (from Niagara to Tobermory). The Toronto vote split between the two Toronto candidates - Rapaport and Pridham.


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posted 06 May 2007 01:45 PM      Profile for ohara        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As a former OPSEU member and organizer I miss the days of Sean O'Flynn, Peter Warrian, Sean Usher, Jim Clancy....those were the days of real union brother/sisterhood
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Michelle
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posted 07 May 2007 02:46 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just curious - was that before or after government workers were allowed to strike?

Seems to me that it's pretty easy to build solidarity when it's never tested by fellow members crossing picket lines.

What do you think has changed since then, ohara? As a total newbie to the union (although both my parents have been members, but not active ones), I'm curious.


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posted 07 May 2007 03:24 AM      Profile for ohara        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It was both before and after.

Hard to put a finger on it. There seemed during my time to be a closer relatioship between Union exec and grassroots. OPSEU conventions were warm, engaging and discussed seriously relevant issues of workplace safety, workers rights, children's services,equal pay for work of equal value. OPSEU members engaged in political advocacy that involved its members work...ie a campaign agaist then COMSOC (social services) minister Frank Dree who was seen as a retrograde Conservative (by today's standards ironica;lly he would be positively progressive) had government workers wearing "Drea is a four-letter word" button. That sort of thing.


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quote:
There seemed during my time to be a closer relatioship between Union exec and grassroots. OPSEU conventions were warm, engaging and discussed seriously relevant issues of workplace safety, workers rights, children's services,equal pay for work of equal value.
Actually, these are two separate (although inter-related) dynamics.

I would agree that at least in some parts of the province, that relationship is definitely weaker. But just as significantly, there are also walls between the union's head office and the local (and some regiona or sectoral) leaders. Many campaigns are very top down and local leaders "question" the formulaic approach at their own peril. I was sent to "coventry" a few years ago for suggesting that certain campaign tactics which might be effective in a smaller community would not be the best approach in the big city.

However, there are still some good debates at convention and important and interesting issues brought to the floor through the resolutions process. In some respects, OPSEU has matured in that respect since I first started attending the convention. Implementation is another matter.

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