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Arch Stanton
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posted 06 November 2002 11:17 AM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been meaning to start a thread on this topic ever since the recent food fights over McDonalds. Today I saw this article:

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"Quality food cannot exist without respect for the environment, for species of animals and plants, for the workers who produce the food and the consumers who eat it. Slow Food is about much more than food itself."

http://www.slowfood.com/


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posted 06 November 2002 11:25 AM      Profile for 'lance     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Glad this is being revived. skdadl started a discussion on this.... Lord, back when the mountains were cooling, it seems.
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Arch Stanton
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posted 06 November 2002 11:33 AM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Immediate thread drift. R&R asked:

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Shouldn't there be a forum where Beethoven is at home?

This has been bugging me for a long time. There is a "Pop Culture" section, but no "Kultur" section on babble. Where does one discuss Erik Satie around here?


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posted 06 November 2002 11:39 AM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Arch, so you do have some human features after all.

There's always an option of posting Kultur topics under Pop Culture, Media, or Body and Soul. I was going to start a thread on the Early Music, esp. after I learned that Oldgoat has some knowledge of the department; it will happen in one of those three sub-sections eventually.


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posted 06 November 2002 11:42 AM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
On "Ideas", which used to be "Books and Ideas".

I wish there were an Ecology forum...


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posted 06 November 2002 11:56 AM      Profile for Trespasser   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The ecology topics could go under Activism or Politics or Ideas or Earning and Spending sometimes, no?
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posted 06 November 2002 12:09 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So anyhow, back to slow food...

I remember when the other thread was active, I was thinking, "This is a fantastic idea!" Then I realized that there are no chapters near the Kingston area. Then I realized that if I wanted to belong to a chapter I would have to start one. Then I realized that if I wanted to start one, I would probably have to know how to cook.

But you know, lately I brought my little one over to a good friend's place, and my friend and I cooked supper together while the kids played. It was wonderful. Such a great experience, hanging around the kitchen together, cooking supper, talking about food and recipes and cooking, and not only that but learning a new recipe from her!

It was so nice.

So maybe the way to start a "chapter" is by doing it informally - getting a couple of friends together on a regular basis (once a week? bi-weekly? monthly?) and just cooking a nice meal, whether we cook it together or host the others.

The cool thing was, my son, normally very picky about eating anything "mushy" or with sauce, actually ate a portion of casserole made with cream of mushroom soup base (unbelievable), because I told him that if he didn't eat it, we would have to leave and go home. He ate it and liked it!

Yes, more time to eat with friends and family would be wonderful. I should invite my mom over more often for supper. Or go there and help her cook supper. The world is too atomized.

I know I was provocative on the McDonald's thread, but the truth is, I really DON'T like McDonald's culture even though I contribute to it by going there occasionally with the little one. I've really been enjoying the Middle Eastern Food thread, and I'm almost feeling inspired to start cooking.

Oh, that reminds me, in passing. I've got an absolutely HUGE container of mushrooms in my fridge that my mother gave me - she bought too many for my grandparents' 60th anniversary party, and she was going away for a week, so she wanted me to take them and see if I could use them. It's a HUGE container. Any recipe suggestions (besides cream of mushroom soup) for getting rid of a LARGE quantity of mushrooms? I'm talking a gigantic package here. There just at the point where they absolutely must be used either today or tomorrow.


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posted 06 November 2002 12:22 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, you could stuff pierogis with them, but I'm sure you've got better things to do with your time, like study and talk to your son.

How about a mushroom lasagna? Chop the mushrooms fine (no way around that task) and saute in a little bit of butter or olive oil. You can add a bit of wine or the leftover lemony juice from your salad, which will make the mushrooms release some juices so that it takes less fat. Then layer with lasagna, cheese, maybe some tomato sauce or bechamel (white sauce) and whatever else you like to put in lasagna. I wouldn't put any meat in this, the cheese provides plenty of protein, and mushrooms do provide a bit.


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posted 06 November 2002 12:28 PM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
One fast solution, for breakfast, Michelle:

Wipe your mushrooms, trim any long stems, and set them all cap-side-down on an oiled cookie sheet. Sprinkle them with olive oil (if you don't have a dribbler stopper for your oil bottle, then just use a finger to control the flow), a bit of salt and pepper, and whatever nice herbs you have about -- maybe a bit of basil, or chives, or parsley.

You will have preheated your oven to about 375. Bake the mushies for about ten minutes -- maybe longer -- you'll see them turn colour a bit.

Meanwhile, scramble a lot of eggs. There are lots of good things to do with scrambled eggs. After you've got them half-cooked, you can add some cream, and/or crumble in some feta cheese, eg, as well as more of the nice herbs.

At the same time, toss up a nice spicey tomato salsa. Cheat and just warm up some prepared salsa. Or chop up some tomatoes and stew them with some sliced onions, adding some honey, balsamic vinegar, and a few crushed chilies. Just keep tasting it until it's both sweet and spicey.

And then layer the three. This is fun to do if you've got some great big -- what do we call those mushrooms that are big as plates? But a layer of wee buttons will do just as well.


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Michelle
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posted 06 November 2002 02:41 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Those are awesome suggestions. Thanks!
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vickyinottawa
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posted 06 November 2002 02:59 PM      Profile for vickyinottawa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's a good mushroom moussaka recipe in the Moosewood cookbook, if I recall correctly.

you could saute them up with some onions or other veggies and stick 'em in crepes....or baked potatoes...or toss with pasta and cheese...or in quiche/omelettes/frittata....or make a big tomato-mushroom pasta sauce....


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posted 06 November 2002 03:14 PM      Profile for Trinitty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
OOH! Use them in Lasangna!

Here's my six cheese recipe, you can pretty much omit everything except the noodles, sauce and some cheese, if need be. You can also use some frozen brocolli instead of spinnach if you have it on hand.

8 no-boil lasagne noodles.
1 jar of spaghetti sauce
1 package of frozen spinach (thaw it in the micro)
3 (or more) cups of chopped mushrooms
2 egg whites (or one whole egg)
3 cups of mozzarella cheese
1/3 cup of cheddar cheese
1 tub of cottage cheese (the middle-sized one)
1 tub of ricotta cheese
¼ cup of parmesan cheese
A bit of feta cheese
As much garlic as you can handle.
1 small onion, whatever colour you want.

1)Wash your hands.

2)Shred all of your cheese. Chop your garlic and onions. Set aside.

3)Preheat oven. I usually aim for about 325, or 350. Whatever.

4)Squish all of the excess water out of spinach.

5)Put spinach in a skillet on med-high, about sevenish. Bit of olive oil is good.

6)Wash and chop mushrooms.

7)Cook mushrooms with the spinach, lower temperature and stir them sometimes.

8)In a bowl, combine egg whites, parmesan, ricotta & cottage cheese.

9)Pour spaghetti sauce out of jar, into baking pan, leaving about a quarter of the sauce. Stir garlic and onion into it. Lay four noodles across the sauce and stuff.

10)Spread cottage cheese goop over noodles. Dump and arrange the mushrooms and spinach on top of the goop. Sprinkle the cheddar over it, leaving a teeny bit left over.

11)Lay the last four noodles over the mushrooms and spinach.

12)Pour the rest of the sauce over the noodles.

13)Crumble the feta over the sauce. Spread mozza evenly, and top it off with the bit o’ cheddar you have left over, for colour.

14)Bake until it looks done.


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Michelle
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posted 06 November 2002 03:18 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Okay, YUM.
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Trinitty
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posted 06 November 2002 03:45 PM      Profile for Trinitty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It's SO GOOD.... and it's one of the 4 things I make. LOL
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posted 06 November 2002 04:04 PM      Profile for Mandos   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Chicken in garlic/dill sauce with mushrooms. For the whole family, maybe for multiple days.

(I don't actually ever measure anything except maybe butter)
A buncha mushrooms, washed and quartered (I'm thinking 20 or so)
2 portobello mushrooms (optional)
A buncha chicken, diced (maybe a kilo or something?)
A buncha fresh dill (actually quite a bit)
An entire garlic, minced
A bit of fresh ginger, minced
Half an onion, minced
One red and one green pepper, diced
Lots of parmesan cheese
Oregano (a few pinches)
Basil (a few pinches)
Olive oil
3/4ths cup Flour
3/4ths cup Butter or margarine
6 cups Milk (I think!)
A buncha fettuchine

1. Heat a little bit of oil in a non-stick wok.
2. Fry the ginger, garlic, and onion and let them turn fragrant.
3. Slowly add oregano, basil, and some of the dill.
4. Add the mushrooms (all of them) and let them sautee in this mixture.
5. Add the chicken, and some more dill. You can start adding parmesan. Let it all cook until the chicken is done. YOu can add some more olive oil, if you like (you probably should, it needs to soak).
6. Add the peppers, don't let them get too soggy.
7. Remove from heat.
8. In a large pot, melt the butter. Slowly stir in the flour. Let it bubble a bit but don't let it turn brown.
9. Then add the milk. Let it come to a boil.
10. Dump a tonne of parmesan into it.
11. Dump the chicken mixture into it and stir.
12. Let stand a bit so that it thickens.
13. Boil and drain the fettuchine.
14. Serve. Refrigerate the leftovers. Keep some crushed peppers and some more parmesan around.

Be warned, this also takes a while to make

Oh, and, garnish it with a few more brushes of fresh dill. Stir it in exactly at point of serving. You can also sprinkle some more oregano and basil.

[ November 06, 2002: Message edited by: Mandos ]


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posted 06 November 2002 06:49 PM      Profile for clersal     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Drool, drool.
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posted 06 November 2002 07:55 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's a nice pro-garlic, onion and shallot story about a survey about the Alliums and prostate cancer: http://cbc.ca/cgi-bin/templates/print.cgi?/2002/11/06/Consumers/shallotsprostate_021106
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Arch Stanton
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posted 16 November 2002 06:38 PM      Profile for Arch Stanton     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I originally had the idea for this thread while making seitan. I was thinking how long it was taking me to make it, and that such a process was the opposite of "fast food." The results are worth the time, in my view.

I haven't come across many good recipes on the internet, although there are a few good cookbooks out there that include seitan recipes.

Other slow foods that I make on special occasions only are perogies and fresh pasta. My "Hunky Bill" perogie maker ( I got mine in the 80s - I saw one for sale today for $25!!!) helps, although mixing and rolling the shells, and making the filling, are fairly involved endeavours.

As with perogies, making fresh noodles involves a lot of preparation. Like home-made perogies and seitan, though, the results are worth the effort.

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posted 18 November 2002 02:18 AM      Profile for nonsuch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I just saw this.
A bit late for Michelle's mushrooms, but just in case that happens again - or someone else buys a large batch of mushrooms on sale:
Clean them (the same day!), slice or quarter, sautee in a little oil, about 10 minutes. This will considerably reduce their volume. Let cool and freeze in a zip-bag. Whenever you need mushrooms for a soup, chili or casserole, thaw for few minutes, take out as much as you want and return the rest to the freezer.

Of course, you could slice and dry them, but it takes a long time without a dehydrator; unless conditions are perfect, they'll go bad. By the way, if you ever buy dried mushrooms in a supermarket, look them over very carefully for bits hanging by invisibly fine threads, black stuff like coffee-grounds in the bag, or movement. Those horrid little moths get in sometimes.
(I don't know how!! I just discovered that they got into my closed cookie tins and destroyed half the summer's dried produce. There isn't any food slower than what you pick, wash, prepare and dry from June to September. I'm having a nice long deep purple sulk.)


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posted 18 November 2002 01:38 PM      Profile for Rebecca West     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
There's a good mushroom moussaka recipe in the Moosewood cookbook, if I recall correctly.
I absolutely love the Moosewood cookbook, and wish I had a copy of the original one. I steal recipes from it whenever I visit my goilfriend in Kingston...she has, like, three Moosewoods.

I love shrooms - thanks for posting the recipes.


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posted 18 November 2002 02:33 PM      Profile for vickyinottawa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
speaking of slow food....I made risotto last night. Added leeks, zucchini, peppers and broccoli, a bit of goat cheese with the usual parmesan. Takes ages and requires constant attention but risotto is sooooooooo worth it. Then I made a Spicy Cajun Shrimp recipe from one of the Moosewood Cookbooks.... even without the sweet paprika it called for it was DAMN GOOD!

If I do say so myself


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One of the Moosewoods has a West African Yam and Peanut soup that's positively orgasmic. I haven't made it since the seal went on my blender. I need to get one of those hand-held electric blender/food processors.
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I liked the Moosewoods cream of Cauliflower soup. So simple, so delicious.
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posted 18 November 2002 04:44 PM      Profile for vickyinottawa   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
oh yeah, that peanut soup is amazing....and if anyone has the recipe I'd dearly love a copy
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Michelle
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posted 28 October 2003 05:11 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I am getting SO hungry re-reading this thread.

Anyhow, in Dufferin Grove Park the weekend before last, there was an organic food fair held there, sponsored by Slow Food Toronto. It was neat. I enjoyed myself at it, and it inspired me to go out and get a bunch of veggies. I think I'll make a nice spaghetti sauce tonight.


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posted 28 October 2003 05:29 PM      Profile for Lima Bean   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm pretty sure that there's a farmer's market kinda thing every Thursday at Dufferin Grove Park. Fresh veggies and meats and other stuffs, and bread out of the big park fireplaceoven (can't remember what the real name of it is). I haven't ever been because it's during the day, but it sounds scrumptious, and relatively accessible on the transit routes etc.
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