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Bärlüer
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posted 09 June 2008 09:10 PM      Profile for Bärlüer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio introduced on Monday articles of impeachment against George W. Bush—35 articles of impeachment, to be precise.

Of course, this is a major news story, so the American media is all over it...

... NOT.

BUT... CNN does have a very important story on its front page about the "Joy of being William Shatner" and MSNBC is informing us that Jessica Alba's "claims that she hasn't received any offers for her new baby's photos are untrue, and that talks are actually in progress", so I guess charges against the media that they are failing to fulfill their journalistic duties would be grossly unfair, on the whole.

Here's some info on the goings-on.

[ 09 June 2008: Message edited by: Bärlüer ]


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Sven
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posted 09 June 2008 10:18 PM      Profile for Sven     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Bärlüer:
Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio introduced on Monday articles of impeachment against George W. Bush—35 articles of impeachment, to be precise.

Of course, this is a major news story


Right.

This is about as much of a "major news story" as Kucinich announcing that he's going to fly, using only his arms, to the moon.


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Bärlüer
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posted 09 June 2008 11:02 PM      Profile for Bärlüer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, that Kucinich character is so kooky—I mean, who else would be so wacko to believe, like Kucinich proposes, that president Bush was involved in a propaganda campaign to manufacture a false case for war against Iraq? That's just craaaaaaaaaaaa-zzzzzy stuff!
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posted 10 June 2008 12:46 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I voted "Yes, immediately" for their impeachment survey. 87% in favour. Those jackals should swing for what they've done. A cement wall at dawn would be too good for the bastards
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posted 10 June 2008 04:15 AM      Profile for Scott Piatkowski   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, it's not like Bush cheated on his wife or anything.
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posted 10 June 2008 05:47 AM      Profile for remind     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
This all stems from the Phase 2 Intelligence Report on factors leading to the war in Iraq, that the world has been waiting for since 2005, which finally came out on June 5th.

Only 1 major news person in the USA covered it, and briefly at that.

The report stated outright that everything was fabricated.

And the silence is deafening about it south of the border, as we can see from Sven's commentary.

So clearly from this complicit silence, it is okay with US citizens that their country's leaders fabricated nonsense and invaded a country, and destroyed it, and the peoples in it.

Yet, as Scott pointed out, they tried to impeach a President because they were outraged at his getting a blowjob in the Whitehouse.

How fucked is that?


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Briguy
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posted 10 June 2008 05:57 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thus far, I've seen exactly 2 inches of MSM print dedicated to this story (on CBS's site). Nice job protecting the public interest, oh you great douchebags of media.

Sadly, this is only a symbolic move by Kucinich, and mostly against his own Democratic leaders. It's not like Pelosi and/or the owners of the Democratic Party will let this go anywhere.


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posted 10 June 2008 06:14 AM      Profile for Caissa     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Would there even be time to impeach Bush let alone hold a trial in the Senate?
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Sven
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posted 10 June 2008 06:15 AM      Profile for Sven     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Bärlüer:
Yeah, that Kucinich character is so kooky—I mean, who else would be so wacko to believe, like Kucinich proposes, that president Bush was involved in a propaganda campaign to manufacture a false case for war against Iraq? That's just craaaaaaaaaaaa-zzzzzy stuff!

Evidently, my post was not clear enough: The probability of Kucinich's action leading an actual impeachment of Bush is equal to the probability of Kuchinich flying to the moon by merely flapping his arms.

That would be zero.

I remember a few posters here frothing at the mouth in the delicious belief that Bush was to be imminently impeached nearly two years ago because the Dems took majority control of Congress at that time. I was certain it wasn't going to happen then (and said so) and am even more certain about that now, Kucinich notwithstanding.

Look, the Dems want to win the presidency. They are not going to get into a battle over an impeachment of Bush when he's not even going to be in office in about six months.

So, again, the probability of this leading to an impeachment = zero.

It's a non-story.


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Bärlüer
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posted 10 June 2008 06:45 AM      Profile for Bärlüer     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
We'll have to agree to disagree: whatever the chances are of this leading to impeachment (and I do recognize that they are close to nil), I believe that this warrants (at least some, geez...) media coverage.
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posted 10 June 2008 07:01 AM      Profile for Sven     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Bärlüer:
We'll have to agree to disagree: whatever the chances are of this leading to impeachment (and I do recognize that they are close to nil), I believe that this warrants (at least some, geez...) media coverage.

I don’t think we disagree to the extent that Kucinich’s action warrants “some” news coverage. I simply disagreed with your original characterization that this is a “major” news story.


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posted 10 June 2008 09:40 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Like Scott said, the Lizard people will catch him having human sex. Then he'll be famous.
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posted 10 June 2008 08:10 PM      Profile for blogbart   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Arizona State Senator Karen Johnson Honors Blair Gadsby & Brings 9/11 Truth to the Arizona State Senate - June 10, 2008.
Blair Gadsby | Hungry for Truth | Senator Karen Johnson

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3lgEpaLVjgo

"...in particular, I would like to introduce to you a very courageous man named Blair Gadsby. I'm going to ask the folks with Blair to help him stand, as I tell you just a little bit about him. Blair is very weak, because he has been fasting for more than two weeks to try to bring attention to the cause of 9/11 Truth. This is the 16th day that Blair has gone without food, and spent his day outside the office of U.S. Senator John McCain, pleading with the Senator to take a look at new evidence of the 9/11 crimes.

We have one man here, who is sacrificing his own personal needs and desires, to stand boldly, pleading for the world to take notice, to question, to research, and not place their lives in the hands of media sound bites. To think for themselves, consciously and critically.

Blair is an educator, and to me this is what great educators do. Thousands of people all over the country, and actually, around the world have been watching on the internet as this hunger strike progresses here in Phoenix. I want Blair to know that I am one of his biggest fans, and that good people everywhere admire him for his courage and determination.

Please give a warm welcome to Blair Gadsby and the 9/11 Truth movement."

- Senator Karen Johnson, June 10, 2008.


http://www.911blogger.com/node/16055


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posted 10 June 2008 08:12 PM      Profile for blogbart   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
PETITION FOR CANADIAN 9/11 INVESTIGATION TO BE READ INTO PARLIAMENT TUESDAY JUNE 10th, 2008

A few months ago various 9/11 Truth activists across Canada got together to compose a Parliamentary Petition demanding an investigation into 9/11. The first 500 signatures were submitted last week, verified, and accepted.


This petition will be read into Parliament on Tuesday June the 10th, at approx 10 am EST, by East Vancouver member of Parliament Libby Davies.

Petition can be found here

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posted 11 June 2008 03:18 PM      Profile for Sven     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's the latest on the Kucinich proposal.

Today, the House voted 251 to 166 to kick Kucinich’s proposal “into committee” (i.e., procedurally, it’s DOA).

Interestingly, the vote was on party lines, but exactly opposite of what one might at first expect. The votes to move it to committee can from Kucinich’s own party (225 Democrats and 26 Republicans voted to move it to committee). All 166 “No” votes came from Republicans because, politically, the Republicans would like little better than to see the Dems fight for an impeachment of Bush right before the November election. But, as Pelosi said, an impeachment process would unlikely to succeed and would be divisive.


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posted 11 June 2008 08:39 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Sven:
[QB But, as Pelosi said, an impeachment process would unlikely to succeed and would be divisive.[/QB]

Our own Liberals in Ottawa suffer the same credibility gap when rubber-stamping the U.S.-friendly rightist agenda here.


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posted 12 June 2008 04:55 AM      Profile for Briguy     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
As I suspected, Kucinich did this more to damage (rightfully) the position of the Stoogeocrats on Iraq (and on Bush's leadership) than the Republicans.
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Briguy
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The full articles of impeachment are here (warning! large PDF file!)

Also, I should warn Sven that reading the articles might lead him to respect Kucinich a small amount. Probably not, but a warning anywho.


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Sven
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posted 12 June 2008 12:59 PM      Profile for Sven     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Jack Cafferty (of CNN) questioning why Dems unwilling to examine impeachmnet of Bush. He raises good questions...
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posted 19 June 2008 08:00 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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You'd be excused if you didn't know this happened. There was almost no reporting on the event that day or the next, which took several hours to accomplish, along with several hours Tuesday for to be read into the Congressional Record. Kucinich's address to the House was broadcast live on C-Span. But it was not announced in advance or highlighted on the C-Span website, and there were not many news reports on the historically significant fact that articles of impeachment had been filed against the president during subsequent days.

A week later, it has still not been reported in the New York Times, the nation’s self-described “newspaper of record,” even though the Times had just days before Rep. Kucinich’s action, editorialized about the enormity of the president’s lies in tricking the country into invading Iraq—one of the crimes leading Rep. Kucinich’s long list.

A number of papers did editorialize against impeachment, including the Philadelphia Inquirer and the Florida Sun Sentinel—but it says something that these publications thought it more important to attack Rep. Kucinich’s action than to actually report on it as a news item.

Even the Washington Post’s news report was an example more of the sclerotic state of American journalism than of genuine reporting. It began:

“Having failed in efforts to impeach Vice President Cheney, Rep. Dennis J. Kucinich (D-Ohio) escalated his battle against the administration this week by introducing 35 articles of impeachment against President Bush, using a parliamentary maneuver that will probably force a vote today.”

Any journalism student who wrote a lede like Post staff writer Ben Pershing’s in a classroom exercise would have gotten a “D” or an “F” for it. Talk about backing into a story! First of all, Kucinich hasn’t “failed” in his effort to impeach Cheney. Congress has failed to impeach our criminal vice president and regent. Technically, Kucinich’s Cheney impeachment bill is still lodged in the House Judiciary Committee, where it is now joined in political limbo by the Ohio congressman’s new Bush impeachment measure.

The unwillingness of the nation’s news media to seriously consider the need for Congress to respond to and challenge the president’s clear abuses of power—even as they themselves condemn of those abuses of power—is a blot on the journalistic profession perhaps worse, and of more lasting consequence, than their failure to act as watchdogs and critics during the run-up to the Iraq War, when they acted more as patriotic cheerleaders than as news organizations.

As impeachment advocates, including Rep. Kucinich, have pointed out, unless this president and vice president are impeached by the current Congress, any—and probably every—future president will feel empowered by unchallenged precedent to ignore laws passed by the Congress, to go to war without Congressional approval, to spy on Americans in violation of the law, to ignore court orders, to abrogate international treaties, and to lie to Congress and the American people. Unless Congress asserts its rights under Article I, it will no longer even be a co-equal branch of government, but instead will have been reduced to nothing more than a debating society.


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