[ May 07, 2002: Message edited by: agent007 ]

I think you are crossing the line, here. You are denigrating a religion and spreading hatred.

No intelligent, cultured, educated or simply polite and well bred person would stoop to such low.

Have you read anyone on this forum attacking a religion as a whole, be it Judaism, Christianity, Islam or any faith ?

Any other pro-Israel babbler attacked Islam ? No, except you and you represent only yourself, your level, your upbringing.

Any babbler attacked Islam or Judaism, or Christianity ? No, except you and you represent only yourself....

If you are uneducated, please at least watch others and follow in their footsteps. You will learn something for sure. We all learn... except that your learning is at the very basic.

[ May 06, 2002: Message edited by: Riffraff ]

SamL, take the time to finish your education.

It's their view.

If any of you have a problem, address it to them.

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Meanwhile, agent007, you might tell us something of your purpose in posting this link.

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Why not just rebut what this woman has written, which the above-named signatories obviously approve.

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[ May 06, 2002: Message edited by: agent007 ]

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We also note that, whereas women in many countries have largely succeeded in improving their lot, their sisters in the Islamic world, and even within Islamic communities in the West, have been unable to rise above the inferior position imposed upon them by centuries of Islamic custom and law.

We have watched as official Islamisation programs in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Iran, the Sudan, and Afghanistan, among others, have led to serious violations of the human rights of women. Muslim conservatives in all Muslim countries, and even in nominally secular India, have refused to recognize women as full, equal human beings deserving of the same rights and freedoms as men.

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Why not just rebut what this woman has written, which the above-named signatories obviously approve.

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How could I rebut it? I don't have the writer's experience or knowledge. And why would I try? My original suspicions as to its authenticity have been put to rest.

I don't know that website, but it seems to me that, Hinduism is just as valid a religion as any other.

What peaked my interest in that particular article is that it sounded like an honest cry for help.

No Canadian woman would tolerate that kind of nonsense. I put it up, in the Feminism board, because I felt that if there is anything to it, then it would be of interest to all the women here and any other progressive thinker.

[Edited to remove one too many 'particulars'].

[ May 06, 2002: Message edited by: 'lance ]

"Riffraff, you are, once again, living up to your pseudonym. You're shooting the messenger."

I did certainly chose my pseudo, buddy

Com'on Agent007, one can't for instance bring a page from Ernest Zundel's crap and then "you are shooting the messenger".

Bringing up Zundel would be stupid. Everyone knows the bastard.

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If you are the man you want me to believe you are, rebut what the woman said (it's hard to defend the indefensible, isn't it?).
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Who told you I am a man ? Is being a man better than being a woman ? Are you a phallusist ?
Oh! 'Cause you read in my "data" that I am a man ?
But I also wrote as my "profession" that I sell wind to sailors ! You must have believed that too

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It may be representative of Muslims in that part of the world, but not Muslims period.

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Not to put to fine a point on it but I would like to see someone post an opinion that is representative of all Muslims. It won't happen because everyone who is a Muslim or any other demographic concerning people are made up of different people with different ideas.

So if there is no defining position of any specific groups of people what is wrong with a link to opinions of some people within a group of people to discuss? Maybe you feel that any given opinion is wrong and speak to it. Maybe not. But at least you are thinking and that the point isn't it? I mean there are plenty of opinions posted here each day. Some I can get along with some I can't but I don't see why it is bad to post them.

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I think we can put a more defining line down between posts that are posted to promote discussion and those posted to troll here.

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Again, this is the feminist forum.

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peaked my interest

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...hmmm, as in "tow the line?"

According to the hallowed pages of the OED:

"When you peeked, your excitement peaked and yer curiosity was piqued."

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And the black flies, the little black flies
Always the black fly no matter where you go
I'll die with the black fly a-pickin' on my bones
In North Ontario, i-o, in North Ontario.

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