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Doug
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posted 15 January 2008 05:16 AM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well well, New Labour might just nationalize a bank. How delightfully ironic.

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The board of embattled Northern Rock PLC faced shareholders Tuesday amid growing speculation that Britain's biggest casualty of the global credit crisis will be nationalized.

Hundreds of investors attended a meeting to vote on proposals by two key shareholders that would restrict the power of the board to reach a private sale -- proposals that analysts say could simply speed up the move toward nationalization.

That fear was reflected in a share sell-off in trading ahead of the meeting, pushing Northern Rock's already battered stock 11 percent lower.

While the government continues to say it would prefer a private buyer for Northern Rock, it has already lined up a former Lloyd's of London senior executive to run the bank in the event it is taken under state control.


http://edition.cnn.com/2008/BUSINESS/01/15/northernrock.meeting.ap/index.html

It looks as though no private buyers want it, it's out of capital, so there's no other option if they want to keep it a going concern.


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Ken Burch
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posted 15 January 2008 09:55 AM      Profile for Ken Burch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Geez...so THAT's what it takes for "New Labour" to actually carry out a LABOUR policy?
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Frustrated Mess
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posted 15 January 2008 11:24 AM      Profile for Frustrated Mess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just to add to the irony, the CEO of the bank is an honest-to-God, Friedmam-ite, neo-con.

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Dr Ridley, who has a D Phil in zoology, is no stranger to good science, and his explorations of our evolutionary history, which are often fascinating and provoking, are based on papers published in peer-reviewed journals. But whenever a conflict arose between his scientific training and the interests of business, he would discard the science. Ignoring hundreds of scientific papers which came to the opposite conclusion, and drawing instead on material presented by a business lobby group called the Institute of Economic Affairs, he argued that global temperatures have scarcely increased, so we should stop worrying about climate change(4). He suggested that elephants should be hunted for their ivory(5), planning laws should be scrapped(6), recycling should be stopped(7), bosses should be free to choose whether or not their workers contract repetitive strain injury(8) and companies, rather than governments, should be allowed to decide whether or not the food they sell is safe.(9) He raged against taxes, subsidies, bail-outs and government regulation. Bureaucracy, he argued, is “a self-seeking flea on the backs of the more productive people of this world … governments do not run countries, they parasitise them.”(10)

Monbiot

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posted 15 January 2008 01:17 PM      Profile for Agent 204   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frustrated Mess:
Just to add to the irony, the CEO of the bank is an honest-to-God, Friedman-ite, neo-con.

Ah, so I suppose he won't go on the dole once he's tossed out of his job, right?


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Fidel
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posted 15 January 2008 02:20 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Ken Burch:
Geez...so THAT's what it takes for "New Labour" to actually carry out a LABOUR policy?

I think Labour is allowing neocon ideology to fail on its own over time. We've bailed out banks in Canada for their gambling losses a few times since the 1980's.

Economist: Relax Basel banking rules

Apparently bank auditors are risking malfeasance unless they change the rules. More bailouts

As Milton Friedman said, it's easier to implement sweeping changes after an initial "shock" and subsequent crises pave the way. The political right are not the only ones to exploit shock doctrine in the past. Sometimes the ideologues grab their own electrodes with both hands while standing in a puddle of a urine.


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Ken Burch
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posted 15 January 2008 11:00 PM      Profile for Ken Burch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Frustrated Mess:
Just to add to the irony, the CEO of the bank is an honest-to-God, Friedmam-ite, neo-con.

Even more irony: Why is a bank being run by a guy who was trained as a ZOOLOGIST?

[ 15 January 2008: Message edited by: Ken Burch ]


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Doug
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posted 16 January 2008 01:26 AM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's something else strange and wonderful:

William F. Buckley, Jr. says it's regulation time!

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Regulation in some form or other is almost everywhere licensed and, generally, applauded. If competitors run taxi companies, regulation denies to any one of them an exclusive franchise: Do not seek to eliminate the competition. And there is regulation built into progressive taxation: The winner climbs into a higher tax bracket, and is thus burdened to the advantage (in the short term) of the competitor.

The mortgage crisis came on because our free society did not think to intervene at a juncture where it could have limited the effects of cosmic thoughtlessness and insouciant greed.



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Fidel
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posted 16 January 2008 01:35 AM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That is freaky-deaky. Buckley was so far right that he must have met himself on the way back.
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B.L. Zeebub LLD
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posted 16 January 2008 03:40 AM      Profile for B.L. Zeebub LLD     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, Buckley's long considered himself a fan - if not a descendant of - Adam Smith, who was into limited, not entirely absent government.
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jester
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posted 16 January 2008 06:03 AM      Profile for jester        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The old saw about propaganda back in the day,rings true for the UK. The Soviets said that both sides used propaganda but that the Soviet people knew the difference.

Northern Rock is no different from Citigroup or the many other banks facing bankruptcy except that the reality is faced in dear old blighty while their chums across the pond prefer to spin a rosy picture whilst the banks are dismantled behind the scenes.

The profitable bits of these huge entities will be sold off (to friends of the family,no doubt)while the shareholder and taxpayer are stuck with the bill for the remainder.

Look to the revolving door between the US Treasury etc and the financial houses. Perhaps the Brits are not as incestuous.


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Frustrated Mess
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posted 16 January 2008 11:38 AM      Profile for Frustrated Mess   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes, but corporate and bank bailouts aren't social spending, are they?
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Fidel
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posted 16 January 2008 01:36 PM      Profile for Fidel     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
British Labour is still quite a bit further to the left than either of our own Liberal or Conservative parties here.
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