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Topic: The Iranian Nine
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jeff house
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posted 22 July 2008 10:54 AM
quote: TEHRAN, Iran - Iran has sentenced eight women and one man convicted of adultery to death by stoning, activists said Sunday. A lawyer and women's rights activist, Shadi Sadr, said the nine, who are between 27 and 50 years old, were convicted of adultery in separate cases in different Iranian cities. Trial protocol was not applied properly in the cases, she said.
Six of the nine were convicted based solely on judges' decisions with no witnesses or the presence of their lawyers during their confessions, said Sadr, who has been leading a campaign in Iran against stoning deaths.
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/iran_stoning_sentences [ 22 July 2008: Message edited by: jeff house ]
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M. Spector
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posted 22 July 2008 01:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Stargazer: Oh, I see
No, you don't see at all.House was trolling for a reaction. The one you gave was not the one he wanted to elicit. Cueball provided that. [ 22 July 2008: Message edited by: M. Spector ]
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Cueball
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posted 22 July 2008 01:29 PM
Will do. Watch the bouncing ball. quote: Originally posted by Pogo:
I have.
You mean like Shadi Sadr is pursuing a campaign against the punishment of stoning, and defending persons accused of adultery on technicalities, without risking his life? This is what Jeff was implying was at stake. As we can see Sadr is operating within the limits of sanctioned legal activity within the state of Iran, without facing such a risk. Sadr's legal opposition, is not at all unlike the legal movement to prevent US war resisters from being returned to the US. Both are good things, to be sure. In most societies there is a margin of allowable opposition, that does not qualify as dissent. But Jeff poses this equation as if any opposition or disagreement to the manner in which justice is performed is an automatic death sentence. However, Jeff poses that he (or anyone of us, apparently) would be put to death for engaging even in marginal opposition to the state. This is a politcized distortion. Clearly he is wrong in this case, apparently lawyers in Iran can engage in similar kinds of civil opposition, as Jedd engages in Canada, within clearly prescribed boundaries, without fear of capital punishment. [ 22 July 2008: Message edited by: Cueball ]
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unionist
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posted 22 July 2008 02:21 PM
Stoning's too good for them.Waste of good stones. Long live the Islamic Theocratic Stone-Age Republic of Iran! That's what the Communistic Party told me to say. How am I doing, on a scale of 1 to 10?
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unionist
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posted 22 July 2008 02:27 PM
By the way, all those Western White Christian Crusaders who are Oh So Morally Superior to the Iranian Fanatics should take note of the fact that stoning comes straight from the friggin' Bible, and those who do NOT use stoning as the punishment for various prescribed offences will burn in friggin' Hell forever.So, here it is - get your stones ready, folks, cuz here's where the Bible requires stoning as a punishment: quote:
1. For touching Mount Sinai Exodus 19:13 2. For taking "accursed things" Joshua 7:1-26 3. For cursing or blaspheming Leviticus 24:16 4. For adultery (including urban rape victims who fail to scream loud enough) Deuteronomy 22:23-24 5. For animals (like an ox that gores a human) Exodus 21:28 6. For a woman who is not a virgin on her wedding night Deuteronomy 22:13-21 7. For worshipping other gods Deuteronomy 17:2-5 8. For preaching the wrong religion Deuteronomy 13:5-10 9. For disobeying parents Deuteronomy 21:18-21 10. For witches and wizards Leviticus 20:27 11. For giving your children to Molech Leviticus 20:2 12. For breaking the Sabbath Numbers 15:32-56 13. For cursing the king 1 Kings 21:10
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HeywoodFloyd
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posted 22 July 2008 03:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by unionist: By the way, all those Western White Christian Crusaders who are Oh So Morally Superior to the Iranian Fanatics should take note of the fact that stoning comes straight from the friggin' Bible, and those who do NOT use stoning as the punishment for various prescribed offences will burn in friggin' Hell forever.So, here it is - get your stones ready, folks, cuz here's where the Bible requires stoning as a punishment:
I suppose I'll start to see an equivalence when I turn on CBC and see a stoning for adultery by Christians at BMO Field in TO.
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unionist
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posted 22 July 2008 03:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd:
I suppose I'll start to see an equivalence when I turn on CBC and see a stoning for adultery by Christians at BMO Field in TO.
We don't need to. We prop up savage governments elsewhere - Saudi Arabia somersaults to mind. Until they get uppity. Then we call in U.S. air strikes to murder civilians. Let's face it, we're just superior folk. We call ourselves Christians/Jews, but we see it all as a metaphor. These pathetic inferior types take it literally. That gives us the latitude to either prop them up or murder them, as convenience dictates. God, do I ever love us!
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unionist
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posted 22 July 2008 03:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by HeywoodFloyd: Good idea. We didn't need all those employed easterners anyways.
Unemployment is definitely preferable to tar sands. We are in agreement. ETA: The year is 2050. "Gramma, how come we have no jobs and the climate has changed?" "Well, when we lost our jobs in the auto industry, Grampa and I had to move west to Fort Mac. The rest is history." "Thanks for the legacy." "No problem" [ 22 July 2008: Message edited by: unionist ]
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oldgoat
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posted 22 July 2008 04:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by jeff house: So would we all.
What Jeff appears to be saying is that he has been adulterous, and speculates that most of us here have also. Personally, I think that too many people here have never gotten any and are unlikely to until they get offline lives. All that notwithstanding, this is currently the dumbest thread going. [ 22 July 2008: Message edited by: oldgoat ]
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