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shinkutat
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posted 01 June 2005 06:40 PM      Profile for shinkutat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Does anyone have any recommendations on an insurer who would insure me (cheaply) ?

I am 21, male, will have my G very soon, have completed the driver training course, but I've never been on anyone's policy.

So far the only place which looks promising is
http://www.insurancehotline.com/scripts/newquote.pl?affiliate=google.ca

All the places I've called or visited have all been complete ripoffs... all asking $3500/yr which is way too much. Some places won't insure me (I have a completely clean record)... some only insure young drivers who have several convictions (so they can rake in the $$$)... the insurance business seems to be rather crooked. I'm beginning to wonder if it's even wortwhile.


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kuri
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posted 01 June 2005 06:57 PM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by shinkutat:
the insurance business seems to be rather crooked.

Understatement alert!

I can sympathize, shinkutat. When I added my (male and 27 y.o.) partner to my auto insurance it jumped to BC prices. You can at least take comfort in the fact that you're not living in Toronto (where you'd almost certainly pay far more). My advice (although I'm not an expert - only a customer) is to go to a broker. They can usually sort through the various companies and find the best deal for you. And then: don't get any speeding tickets!


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Tommy_Paine
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posted 01 June 2005 07:16 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I heard a blurb on CBC radio a while back that it pays to do your own shopping around, that a broker isn't always the sure way to lower rates.

As a side note, funny how rates have gone through the roof since public auto insurance became a political non starter in this province.


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shinkutat
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posted 01 June 2005 08:18 PM      Profile for shinkutat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah I've been to a couple brokers... they only search a couple insurers... that website I posted gave good rates, I just hope that they turn out to be real. It was one of the top results in my google search so it should be legit.

Yeah, public insurance would be nice indeed. Which provinces have that?


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Tommy_Paine
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posted 01 June 2005 08:29 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Ones that had an NDP government not headed by Bob Rae.
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abnormal
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posted 01 June 2005 08:52 PM      Profile for abnormal   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don't go to a broker, go to several. While a broker legally acts on your behalf he doesn't have access to every insurance company in the province. Consequently he can only give you the best deal among those companies he deals with. If for some reason he's not anxious to place your business he can just as easily put you with Facility.
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ouroboros
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posted 02 June 2005 08:59 PM      Profile for ouroboros     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kurichina:

I can sympathize, shinkutat. When I added my (male and 27 y.o.) partner to my auto insurance it jumped to BC prices.


BC prices? As in British Colombia? You mean cheap? I was paying $850 a year in BC, in Ontario I'm at $2500. No tickets of any kind.

For young people, males more so, BC is much better.


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shinkutat
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posted 03 June 2005 12:57 PM      Profile for shinkutat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, I have been thinking about BC for grad school or teachers' college (haven't decided yet). However, I'm also wondering whether or not the savings in insurance would compare to cost-of-living differences (I hear rent in Vancouver is pretty high!)...
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HeywoodFloyd
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posted 03 June 2005 01:04 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Try finding a broker that works with ING insurance. They have excellent rates for younger drivers. ING bought out the Canadian division of Zurich insurance, which was the only company I could afford when I was younger.
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kuri
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posted 03 June 2005 01:05 PM      Profile for kuri   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by ouroboros:
BC prices? As in British Colombia?

Yes, as in $2000/yr in Vancouver versus $1400/yr in Ottawa. Then with, my partner added, back to $2200. Compared with only $800 or so in Alberta.

I don't know where you were living in BC, but if you were in the lower mainland, I'd like to know who you bribed.

Public auto insurance can be a good thing. ICBC is not it. There needs to be some major reforms to that organization, IMHO.


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HeywoodFloyd
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posted 03 June 2005 01:08 PM      Profile for HeywoodFloyd     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
SGI does public insurance well. I prefer Saskatchewans method of vehicle registration and insurance over Albertas.
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jockomoriarty
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posted 03 June 2005 08:09 PM      Profile for jockomoriarty     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Insurance brokers should have an eye patch as part of their uniform.

The pirate I dealt with for years could not explain why my rates were higher than my peers.\

It was only when I got remarried and put on my wife's policy that I found out that they felt I had been at fault in several accidents.

I asked my broker how this could be and he said there was nothing he could do.

After contacting the insurer directly I showed them that I was definately not at fault...after investigation I got back two years of over payments and I now have a letter of appology from the insurance company.
I fired my broker and changed companies for a much lower rate.

visit this site for insurance tips


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ouroboros
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posted 06 June 2005 12:04 AM      Profile for ouroboros     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by kurichina:

I don't know where you were living in BC, but if you were in the lower mainland, I'd like to know who you bribed.

I lived in Victoria and the lower mainland. Victoria just before I moved to Ottawa and Vancouver (New West) about a year and a half or two before that. I didn't bribe anyone. And you can't really compare Ottawa to Vancouver for insurance rates. Vancouver is quite a bit bigger and has one of the highest auto thief rates in North America..


Public auto insurance can be a good thing. ICBC is not it. There needs to be some major reforms to that organization, IMHO.


I'll give you that ICBC has to be looked at.


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Reverend Blair
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posted 06 June 2005 12:59 AM      Profile for Reverend Blair   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
SGI does public insurance well. I prefer Saskatchewans method of vehicle registration and insurance over Albertas.

The same with Manitoba's insurance. The service is good and the rates are reasonable. It also isn't biased by age or gender, so kids can actually afford to drive.

My big problem with Manitoba is the motorcycle rates...very expensive because of the payouts. You'd think that with government insurance they could subsidize low-polluting modes of transportation a bit though.


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shinkutat
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posted 10 June 2005 10:28 PM      Profile for shinkutat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, success! I found that Dinan Insurance, a Sudbury broker, will insure me, and gave me a quote of $2549/yr for a 1997 Nissan Altima GXE. That is about $1000 less than any other company would insure me on any vehicle.

Thanks for all the suggestions BTW.


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Tommy_Paine
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posted 10 June 2005 10:38 PM      Profile for Tommy_Paine     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So it does indeed pay to do some shopping around.

Good for you.


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