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Topic: Birth Control by Decree in Uzbekistan
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skdadl
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posted 04 May 2005 12:05 PM
This is just revolting to read. Important to think about, though. I am trying to locate the politics of these outrages. Obviously, there is old-time Stalinist reductionism dictating the behaviour of the medical and public-health authorities, as well as of the government economic thinkers and planners. But Uzbekistan is now run by a bizarre tyrant, Islam Karimov, and worse, Karimov is now considered a valuable ally by the U.S. (Gee: how could that be?) So I think there are two separate problems to think about: How does the world help people, any and all people, tyrannized to this extent by a regime like this? But also: How do we make contact with the women of developing nations like this, who need to be supported, not raped by their doctors, but given greater choices and more hope than resides merely in the stark choice between sterilization or endless child-bearing? The one thing about this report that made me hopeful was the report itself. It is inspiring to me that those three activists and researchers are there, on the ground in Uzbekistan, and producing work of this detail and value. I should think that they are in some danger, and I salute them. [ 04 May 2005: Message edited by: skdadl ]
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skdadl
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posted 04 May 2005 12:15 PM
The U.S., alas, allows knowledge of Uzbekistan only to very high-placed cynics and greedmasters who know all about the politics of oil. Christian fundamentalists don't qualify on that score, so nobody is telling the USian fundies about Uzbekistan. It is that simple, Mr M. Condi Rice runs Uzbekistan, or at least she allows Karimov to play whatever sadistic games he likes with people's lives, as long as he plays ball with U.S. plans for the Middle East and Central Asia.
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Mr. Magoo
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posted 04 May 2005 12:18 PM
Okay, but can we drop a few hundred fundamentalists out the back of a cargo plane anyway? I mean, it never hurts to try, right?And of course I was being facetious. It just occurred to me that birth control can be used to oppress women in two different ways, and how versatile that is!
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skdadl
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posted 04 May 2005 12:26 PM
Gosh, Mr M. For once, I agree with you, and I agree with you twice. This is a hard topic for feminists because most of us have noticed the raw stats: teach women to read = women have fewer babies = rising standard of living generally. Now, that is very raw. Stalinist, almost. But women's fecundity is definitely a political issue. Women's intelligence, women's agency, women's freedom -- those are political issues too, and like most feminists, I hope and believe, I want to see all those issues in play if and as we try to reach out to traumatized populations like the people of Uzbekistan. That's the problem, though. I know the theory. I just don't know what we could do that would be of immediate, practical help.
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kuri
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posted 22 May 2005 03:57 PM
I read A Mother's Ordeal during the course of researching an essay where the one-child policy was used as a case study to assess how the international refugee law regime treats women. (From a legal anthropology persepctive.) It was Chi An Wei, the subject of that biography, who was the first person to make a successful claim in the US based on persecution of the one-child policy, but her story is mirrored in cases around the UK and Commonwealth as well. It was indeed a difficult read (although not as bad as the literature from the Medical Foundation for the Care of the Victims of Torture - that was by far the most emotionally challenging thing I've ever read in my life). The details about the coercive measures taken to force women into late-term abortions, the lack of medical treatment for those who defied the state and disadvantages faced by "black children" (unauthorized children) were particularly appalling. Sterilization without consent, indeed any medical procedure carried out through coercion, can be properly thought of as mutilation.I wasn't aware that this was taking place in Uzbekistan. What we are seeing, I believe, is the opposite of the same coin as what we saw in Romania when lots of children were demanded. Or what we saw in the former Yugoslavia when rape was used as a war crime in order to dilute the enemy nation. Whether the goal is to increase births or decrease them, what we are seeing is political coercion written collectively on the bodies of women. It is a willful attempt to mould female bodies to serve the state. Such types of inscription can only be successful if violent. It is absurd that all women will make the same choices without being forced to. Which leads me to believe that the solution all coercive forms of reproductive control is to empower women to make choices for themselves. My roommates from China tell me that only country women want to have more than one child anyway, so I can't help but think that that has something to do with the extreme poverty in China's rural areas which would make extra children an economic imperative despite the sanctions the state puts upon them. I can't imagine it would be much different for the water supply of Uzbekistan mentioned in the article. As Chi An Wei concludes at the end of A Mother's Ordeal, China "doesn't have a population problem, so much as a development problem."
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beluga2
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posted 22 May 2005 04:58 PM
Sounds like Uzbekistan is taking some lessons from another pampered and coddled US client state, Indonesia, which apparently inflicted a program of forced sterilization on women in occupied East Timor. The purpose there was a bit different, though; rather than simply attempting to decrease the birth rate, as in China or Uzbekistan, it was specifically targeted towards the birth rate of a particular group, ethnic Timorese. Attempted genocide, in other words.Uzbekistan is a pretty amazing example, though: a Saddam-style dictatorship that recently massacred unarmed civilians, as well as imposing social policies the Repugnicans would normally denounce as evil and sinful. skdadl's right: amazing how the "culture of life" evaporates into vapour when confronted with the cynical needs of realpolitik, huh?
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