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M. Spector
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posted 10 August 2008 05:36 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It was inevitable that the fascist right would mount a campaign of racist attacks against Obama. But these attacks now include death threats.
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American law enforcement agencies fear Barack Obama will be the target of a violent attack by white supremacists at the Democratic convention in Denver this month.

Ever since the Senator for Illinois emerged as the likely Democratic presidential candidate, neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan and similar groups have been making racist threats.

In an interview on Fox News, Railton Loy, Grand Wizard of the National Knights of the Ku Klux Klan International, said of Obama's presidential campaign: "I'm not going to have to worry about him, because somebody else down south is going to take him out... If that man is elected president, he'll be shot sure as hell. The hate would be so deep down south."

Meanwhile, websites and blogs have been buzzing with racist posts....

On Thursday, Raymond Hunter Geisel, 22, appeared in court in Miami after allegedly threatening to assassinate Obama. He was in a training class when he allegedly referred to Obama with a racial epithet before adding: "If (Obama] gets elected, I'll assassinate him myself."

According to court documents, Geisel said in an interview with a Secret Service agent, that "if he wanted to kill Senator Obama he simply would shoot him with a sniper rifle, but then he claimed that he was just joking".

A search of Geisel's car and hotel room in Miami uncovered a loaded 9mm handgun, knives, dozens of rounds of ammunition including armour-piercing types, body armour, military-style fatigues and a machete. - Source


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M. Spector
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Given the country’s painful recent past, race is an issue around which Americans do their best to dance. Instead, it is being aired in surrogate language as questions are raised about patriotism and “American values”. And in the background, a virulent internet campaign promotes the stubborn fallacy that the youthful senator is a Muslim (substituting religion for race, with much the same effect).

“Race is the elephant in the living room here in America. Nobody wants to talk about it, but it’s a factor,” says Dr Young at his home in Jackson. “Racism is not as overt and obvious as it once was. We keep hearing that America wants a change – but does it want change enough to vote for a black man? We’ll learn that on election day. If he wins, I will die a happy man.”

Across the Pearl River, in predominantly white and rural Rankin County, there is anxiety rather than excitement about Mr Obama’s prospects. Among the hunters and anglers shopping for guns, crossbows, fishing rods and camouflage gear at the cavernous Bass Pro superstore, his race and religion are viewed with scepticism.

In opinion polls, about 10 per cent of Americans consistently believe that Senator Obama is a Muslim, because his father and stepfather were Muslim, his middle name is Hussein and he went to school for four years in Islamic Indonesia – even though he has attended a Chicago church for nearly two decades. Such views were easy to find at Bass Pro last week. “I’m afraid that if he wins, he will go back to his Muslim upbringing and change the country to reflect that,” says John McKellar, a 22-year-old gardener.


Are critics targeting his race?

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posted 19 September 2008 08:48 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Deciphering their racist code words
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While McCain and the other Neanderthals in the Republican Party can't get away with calling Obama a criminal or a welfare cheat, they're using new terms to get the point across--he's Black, he's urban, and he's out of step with the "rest of us." And the us, of course, are "hard-working white Americans," as Hillary Clinton put it toward the end of her failed bid to win the Democratic presidential nomination.

Last month's Republican National Convention was a cesspool of thinly veiled racist invective aimed at Obama. Sarah Palin, the Republicans' vice presidential candidate, sneered about Obama's history as a community organizer. Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani likewise derided Obama for his work "on the South Side of Chicago."

A few hours before McCain gave his acceptance speech, Republican bigot Lynn Westmoreland, a member of Congress from the former slave state of Georgia, referred to Michelle and Barack Obama as "uppity," saying, "Just from what little I've seen of her and Mr. Obama, Sen. Obama, they're a member of an elitist-class individual that thinks that they're uppity." Given an opportunity to clarify, Westmoreland said, "Yeah, uppity."

"As a native of the South," said political commentator David Gergen, "I can tell you, when you see this Charlton Heston ad, 'The One,' that's code for, 'He's uppity, he ought to stay in his place.' Everybody gets that who is from a Southern background."…

The use of racism in American politics isn't new, by any means, but the methods for invoking it have changed.

In the 1968 election for president, Republican Richard Nixon crafted the so-called "Southern Strategy" of making coded racist appeals to win white votes.

The Southern Strategy was an acknowledgement that open anti-Black racism would no longer be tolerated, now that African Americans' right to vote was firmly established. But with the Democratic Party falling apart because of its inability to contain the contradictions of being both the formal party of civil rights in the North and the party of Jim Crow in the South, the Southern Strategy was, above all, about winning the rural, white Southern vote into the Republican sphere….

In the 1980s, Ronald Reagan picked up Nixon's mantle by campaigning across the South--he launched his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Miss., where three civil rights workers were murdered in 1964. In office, Reagan regularly invoked fictitious characters like "welfare queens" to justify his program of cutting back on social programs.

Reagan and his successor, George H.W. Bush, declared a war on drugs--which, in reality, meant a war on young Black men. Bush used an unapologetically racist ad--about Willie Horton, a Black man who was accused of a killing a white woman while free on a prison work-release program--against opponent Michael Dukakis, but the first politician to raise Horton was fellow Democrat and future vice president Al Gore.

When he ran for president in 1992, Bill Clinton made fighting crime and ending welfare big aspects of his campaign--both of which were used to convey a message that he was not beholden to Black "special interests." The most outrageous example of this was his public admonition of a Black female rap artist--a strange target for a presidential candidate….

That said, racism remains an effective tool of division and distraction in the hands of politicians who have no answers for the growing and profound crises gripping the U.S.

Clinton's campaign did help narrow Obama's lead in the waning months of the Democratic primaries. Clinton was able to prey on the anxieties, cynicism and despair among many white workers who are frustrated and angry about declining living standards and, in some cases, quick to blame immigrants and Blacks.

McCain and the Republicans are set on using the same strategy. Thus, opinion polls show that efforts at demonizing Obama as urban, elitist and "out of touch" have had some success in convincing some white voters, who under other circumstances would vote Democratic, to consider McCain. Plus, there's also a small group of former Clinton supporters who refuse to vote for Obama and threaten to join the McCain camp….

Since Obama's historic and effective speech on race last spring, his campaign has been quiet--unless it was to attack Black men on Father's Day or denounce Rev. Jeremiah Wright. By remaining silent, Obama both legitimizes media silence on these issues and simultaneously allows the right to continue with the same garbage.

Obama is no doubt concerned that if he were to speak out against the different expressions of racism from the Clintons or McCain and Palin, the media would focus on this alone and bury anything else about his campaign. He is frightened of being labeled by the media as an "angry Black man," running a campaign like Rev. Al Sharpton--in other words, one that isn't to be taken seriously.

It is certainly true that the media have a long record of trivializing and dismissing Black candidates and discussions of race in election campaigns. But there are consequences to the course Obama has chosen….

Obama's silence means the smears will continue because there is no political price to pay for those who make them. If the Republicans didn't fear being seen as racist, then they would forgo the symbolism and code words and go for outright slurs.


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Hmmm, and here I was thinking "elitist" has become the new "uppity".
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Poll: Racial Misgivings of Whites is Obama Problem
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By RON FOURNIER and TREVOR TOMPSON, Associated Press Writers Sat Sep 20, 1:11 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks — many calling them "lazy," "violent" or responsible for their own troubles.
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The poll, conducted with Stanford University, suggests that the percentage of voters who may turn away from Obama because of his race could easily be larger than the final difference between the candidates in 2004 — about 2.5 percentage points.

Certainly, Republican John McCain has his own obstacles: He's an ally of an unpopular president and would be the nation's oldest first-term president. But Obama faces this: 40 percent of all white Americans hold at least a partly negative view toward blacks, and that includes many Democrats and independents.



Article on why the above article on this poll is bunk.

Ron Fournier: Racial Arsonist and Unethical Journalist

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[quote]Deep-seated racial misgivings could cost Barack Obama the White House if the election is close, according to an AP-Yahoo News poll that found one-third of white Democrats harbor negative views toward blacks - many calling them "lazy," "violent" or responsible for their own troubles.

- Ron Fournier, Associated Press, September 20, 2008

Theorem: The amount of time conservatives spend talking about the Bradley Effect is inversely proportional to the fortunes of their candidate.



- Nate Silver, September 19, 2008


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Today's AP story wasn't exactly about the so-called "Bradley Effect" or "Wilder Effect," a popular theory in the 1980s and 1990s that posited that some white Americans lie to pollsters claiming they will support African-American candidates but vote then against them in the secrecy of the ballot box.

The theory - if it was true back then - has been very thoroughly disproved in recent years, and today we'll walk you through all the documentation you need to debunk it when asked about it by others.

But with the McCain-Palin ticket sinking in the polls, and the financial crisis sucking the oxygen out of the culture war "issues" on all sides, with the economy now front and center as the dominant campaign issue, we're hearing increasing mention of the so-called "Bradley Effect," the so-called "Wilder Effect," the so-called "Bradley-Wilder Effect" (all names for the same 20th century theory).

And now, the Associated Press and its unethical reporter Ron Fournier are transparently attempting to turn the November election (and, if their attempted arson is successful, its aftermath for years to come) into a wedge to divide, polarize and set back race relations in the United States of America more than four decades.
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martin dufresne
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posted 21 September 2008 03:18 PM      Profile for martin dufresne   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
"What Privileges Do McCain and Palin Receive Because They're White?", by Tim Wise, September 18, BuzzFlash/AlterNet
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13 ways McCain and Palin have enjoyed preferential treatment in the presidential race.

For those who still can't grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are constantly looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help.

White privilege is when you can get pregnant at 17 like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because "every family has challenges," even as black and Latino families with similar "challenges" are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.

White privilege is when you can call yourself a "fuckin' redneck," like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll "kick their fuckin' ass," and talk about how you like to "shoot shit" for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.

White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.

White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-size colleges, and then governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don't all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. senator, two-term state senator and constitutional law scholar means you're "untested."

White privilege is being able to say that you support the words "under God" in the pledge of allegiance because "if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it's good enough for me," and not be immediately disqualified from holding office -- since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the "under God" part wasn't added until the 1950s -- while believing that reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school, requires it), is a dangerous and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.(...)



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M. Spector
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posted 21 September 2008 03:41 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Thanks for posting that article here, Martin.

It was the subject of a separate thread, but I never understood the need for such proliferation.


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posted 21 September 2008 08:25 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Push to "Otherize" Obama
by Nicholas D. Kristof
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Here’s a sad monument to the sleaziness of this presidential campaign: Almost one-third of voters “know” that Barack Obama is a Muslim or believe that he could be.

In short, the political campaign to transform Mr. Obama into a Muslim is succeeding. The real loser as that happens isn’t just Mr. Obama, but our entire political process.

A Pew Research Center survey released a few days ago found that only half of Americans correctly know that Mr. Obama is a Christian. Meanwhile, 13 percent of registered voters say that he is a Muslim, compared with 12 percent in June and 10 percent in March.

More ominously, a rising share — now 16 percent — say they aren’t sure about his religion because they’ve heard “different things” about it.

When I’ve traveled around the country, particularly to my childhood home in rural Oregon, I’ve been struck by the number of people who ask something like: That Obama — is he really a Christian? Isn’t he a Muslim or something? Didn’t he take his oath of office on the Koran?

In conservative Christian circles and on Christian radio stations, there are even widespread theories that Mr. Obama just may be the Antichrist. Seriously.

John Green, of the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, says that about 10 percent of Americans believe we may be in the Book of Revelation’s “end times” and are on the lookout for the Antichrist. A constant barrage of e-mail and broadcasts suggest that Mr. Obama just may be it....

What is happening, I think, is this: religious prejudice is becoming a proxy for racial prejudice. In public at least, it’s not acceptable to express reservations about a candidate’s skin color, so discomfort about race is sublimated into concerns about whether Mr. Obama is sufficiently Christian.

The result is this campaign to “otherize” Mr. Obama. Nobody needs to point out that he is black, but there’s a persistent effort to exaggerate other differences, to de-Americanize him.

Raising doubts about a candidate based on the religion of his grandfather is toxic and profoundly un-American, cracking the melting pot we emerged from. Someday people will look back at the innuendoes about Mr. Obama with the same disgust with which we regard the smears of Al Smith as a Catholic candidate in 1928.

I’m writing in part out of a sense of personal responsibility. Those who suggest that Mr. Obama is a Muslim — as if that in itself were wrong — regularly cite my own columns, especially an interview last year in which I asked him about Islam and his boyhood in Indonesia. In that interview, Mr. Obama praised the Arabic call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset,” and he repeated the opening of it.

This should surprise no one: the call to prayer blasts from mosque loudspeakers five times a day, and Mr. Obama would have had to have been deaf not to learn the words as a child. But critics, like Jerome Corsi, whose book denouncing Mr. Obama, “The Obama Nation,” is No. 2 on the New York Times best-seller list, quote from that column to argue that Mr. Obama has mysterious ties to Islam. I feel a particular obligation not to let my own writing be twisted so as to inflame bigotry and xenophobia.

Journalists need to do more than call the play-by-play this election cycle. We also need to blow the whistle on such egregious fouls calculated to undermine the political process and magnify the ugliest prejudices that our nation has done so much to overcome.


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posted 24 September 2008 05:57 AM      Profile for ElizaQ     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Language 'uppity' and it's historical context

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Today's NY Times has an opinion piece by Brent Staples: Barack Obama, John McCain and the Language of Race

The article pulls no punches and makes it clear that "Uppity" when used in reference to African Americans is shorthand for "Uppity Niggers". But even more important is a reference to Greenwood, a town known historically as "The Black Wall Street", and its burning, an illustration of the violent reaction of racist whites to affluent blacks. I'd like to discuss some of that history here, and applaud the writer, Brent Staples for tellin' it like it is.


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NJ town blanketed with racist anti-Obama fliers
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Residents in one New Jersey town are disturbed after receiving fliers over the weekend that question Barack Obama's candidacy on racial grounds.

Roxbury resident Elizabeth Corsetto says a flier was left in her driveway asking, "Do You Want A Black President?" and showing a doctored photo of Obama with a long beard and turban.



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ElizaQ
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I have the feeling that things are going to delve even more into this nasty realm. Over the past weeks I've been paying close attention to how the internet has been playing in the election. Doing a bit of a personal project on it.

Obama has been slowly creeping higher in the polls and there at least two states now that were thought to be solid red where he's neck and neck, with some indicating that he's even higher.

In things like comment sections of news articles and some liberal leaning discussion boards the more the polls climb and the worse press the MCCain camp gets (which there has been so much it's hard to keep track of) it's almost like you can see the racial attacks slowly increasing. The 'he's a muslim thing' has been around since the beginning but seems to be increasing. Today for the first time I've have come across blatant outright and angry race comments and threats on mainstream sites rather then the regular more subtle innuendo ones. Five of the more liberal leaning discussion boards I've been following as well as a couple of moderately conservative ones have had trolls literally screaming about no 'mutha f*ing N**** in the white house' and similar comments as well as threats like 'We're not going to let that happen"

It hasn't been like that at all in the past weeks.


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Obama effigy found hanging from tree at Christian college

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NEWBERG, Ore. - Officials of a small Christian university say a life-size cardboard effigy of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was hung from a campus tree, suspended from a branch with fishing line around the neck.

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Apparently Rush Limbaugh couldn't wait to prove how much of a Big Fat Idiot(TM Al Franken) he is.

I have no words aside from the above.


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Unwelcome Visitors at the Ole Miss Debate: KKK

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University's Daily Mississippian newspaper reported on Sept. 12, the audience of thousands right outside the debate hall watching by simulcast includes some unwelcome guests: the Mississippi White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. The Klansmen won't be wearing robes or hoods or making "a big hoopla," says Imperial Wizard Richard Greene, 46, who refuses to divulge how many members the Mississippi chapter has. Nor will they take advantage of the designated protest zone outside the debate theater to stage one of their typical demonstrations — which include fiery speeches and a cross burning — for fear of causing riots. "We don't want anybody to get hurt," says Greene, who insists physical violence is no longer part of the Klan way of doing things. But Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Project, which studies hate groups and extremism in America, disagrees: "That's hogwash," he says, citing a lawsuit under way against a different Klan branch, the Imperial Klans of America, for allegedly assaulting a teenager at a county fair in Kentucky.

The Klan will, however, have pamphlets and membership applications on hand for any audience members who happen to share the Klansmen's views. Some examples of those views: Obama's election "could be the destruction of America," says Greene, who states categorically that he would not vote for a black candidate. Says the Emperor of the Mississippi White Knights (the group's ritual leader), who asked not to be identified: "Locally, every place that has come under black rule has declined, and has declined sharply." He cited Jackson, Miss., and Washington, D.C., as examples. "Not all black people are particularly bad people," the emperor adds. But leadership, he asserts, "is just not in their character ... it's just not in their ability." The Obama campaign did not return requests for comment.



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Wow.

Bobby Lee May, McCain Campaign Buchanan County Chair writes a 'humor' column for a Virginia newspaper on Obama's 'platform'.

PDF of actual column
Blog about it.
NotsoLarrySabto

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You need to read this column to believe it. In "humor" he accuses Obama of wanting to paint the White House black, supporting reparations, changing the national anthem to the "black national anthem", teaching "black liberation theology in all churches", and replacing the flag with a "star and crescent logo".

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Sarah Palin was on the verge of inciting a race riot in northern Florida yesterday. At her rallies, the Republican faithful hurled a racial epithet at a black sound man, and screamed "kill him" and "treason!" at Barack Obama.

"Boy, you guys just get it!" Palin responded. This reaction, presumably, was what Palin had in mind when she urged John McCain to "take the gloves off."

The McCain campaign initially took her advice, sending out three emails about Obama and Bill Ayers yesterday and pushing the angle hard on the news media. But by the time McCain got to debating, he made no mention of Ayers or Jeremiah Wright or Tony Rezko. For once, McCain knew better. His campaign looked supremely silly the day before, ranting about domestic terrorists from the 1960s when the Dow was plunging 800 points. - Source



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Sarah Palin was on the verge of inciting a race riot in northern Florida yesterday. At her rallies, the Republican faithful hurled a racial epithet at a black sound man, and screamed "kill him" and "treason!" at Barack Obama.

"Boy, you guys just get it!" Palin responded. This reaction, presumably, was what Palin had in mind when she urged John McCain to "take the gloves off."


Hate speech, wonderful, just what the USA needs in a national leader!

Stated elsewhere a few days back that she would provoke race riots, or assination attempts. Her ugly slithering mean spirit, like that of her neo-con fundamentalist brethern, will not tolerate being beaten by a POC.

It will get worse if Obama continues to lead, and the prospects of what will happen,if something happens to Obama, is nasty.


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Biden alin Should Condemn Supporters Remarks

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Joe Biden lashed out at Sarah Palin on Wednesday, calling her recent rhetoric "ugly" and "mildly dangerous," and expressing shock that the Alaska Governor did not interrupt recent rallies when supporters shouted hateful attacks about Barack Obama, including "treason!" and "kill him!"

"I watched the news and I heard a couple people hollering from the audience semi-vile things about 'terrorists,' things like that," Biden said on NBC's Today show. "The idea that a leading American politician who might be vice president of the United States would not just stop mid-sentence and turn and condemn that -- it's just a slippery slope, it's a place that we shouldn't be going."



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Over the past weeks, 28 million copies of the anti-Muslim propaganda film Obsession: Radical Islam's War Against the West have been delivered to the doors of newspaper subscribers in swing states. The 2006 documentary, which has been a mainstay of David Horowitz's "Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week," describes "radical Islam" as a menace comparable to Adolf Hitler that, according to the film's website, "is threatening, with all the means at its disposal, to bow Western civilization under the yoke of its values."

For the groups behind the film's distribution, the goal seems pretty clear: Scare the holy hell out of millions of voters in swing states about a possible Muslim takeover of the U.S. It's hard to see the targeting of electoral battlegrounds as anything other than an attempt to help John McCain get elected--perhaps by capitalizing on the widespread whispering campaign that Obama is a "secret Muslim."

And one has to admit that the Obsession campaign's marketing plan has been quite slick. After all, what better way to disseminate hate propaganda than under the unassuming guise of a documentary film delivered in Americans' daily newspapers? A plan that, sadly, many newspapers were all too happy to go along with for the sake of corporate profits. While a handful of newspapers--the Greensboro, N.C., News & Record, the Detroit Free Press, the Cleveland Plain Dealer and the St. Louis Post-Dispatch--have taken the ethical stance of refusing to carry the DVD (the News & Record called it "fear-mongering and divisive"), some 70 papers, including the New York Times, have delivered it to their subscribers as a paid advertising supplement.


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jas
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Puts that little typo in a bit more perspective.

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I am indeed mildly surprised at the reaction folks are having about racism rearing its ugly head in the American elections.
HEY! Wake up!! This is the US you are talking about.
OF COURSE they are going to crawl into the gutter, the kooks are gonna come out, hoods will be dusted off, hardware stores will be doing a roaring business and Jerry Springer will become popular again as his former guests hit the national stage.
How many other countries in the world can claim such high falutin' morals and values, yet be sooo racist and morally degenerate at the same time? OK...OK... but let Hezbollah deal with that for now!!

Never forget, this is the only country in human history to have used weapons of mass destruction.
A country whose leaders popularity shoots up when he bombs and kills innocent non-whites in huts and tents in some underdeveloped country.
Just as in our own election the rightwing, seeing their long cherished policies meltdown in the all powerful financial sectors, have nothing else to offer. Hence the personal attacks and racism.


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Never forget, this is the only country in human history to have used weapons of mass destruction.

Except for the ones who have dabbled in the use of chemical weapons, there's quite a few of those on record.


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There are, but that list would also include the US.
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Poor John McCain.

He let the Bush-Cheney operatives who took over his Republican presidential campaign late in the summer talk him into running a scorched-earth campaign attacking Barack Obama.

But, now that the campaign is fully operational, McCain is shocked and unsettled by what he is hearing from his own supporters.

"I don't trust Obama," a woman at a town hall meeting in Minnesota told McCain. "I have read about him. He's an Arab."

McCain silenced her and said, "No, ma'am. He's a decent, family man, a citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues..."

The crowd booed the Arizona senator's attempt to quiet the hate speech that has become such a major feature of events at which he and his over-the-top running mate, ethically-challenged Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, have appeared in recent days.

When a man in the crowd suggested that he was scared about raising his child in an America led by a President Barack Obama, McCain countered him.

Speaking of Obama, the Republican presidential nominee said: "I have to tell you, he is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States."

That may seem rich coming from the man who has "approved this message" of smearing Obama at every turn.

It certainly did not go over well with his backers.

McCain's description of Obama as "decent" drew loud booing from the crowd that had come to hear trash talking -- not the truth.

"If you want a fight, we will fight," McCain continued, trying to calm, his feverish backers. "But we will be respectful. I admire Sen. Obama and his accomplishments."

At that, the mob booed even more loudly. - Source



Watch the video

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Originally posted by M. Spector:

youtube video

I have to say I think McCain deserves some credit here.


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What, for letting a gang of morons run his campaign? He knew what he was getting into. He knows there's a huge festering pool of racism in the USA pumped full of anecdotal "proofs" that black people get put ahead of white people for jobs when the cultural mythos is that "every man is exactly equal", and pumped full of "proofs" that every black man is a criminal because that's what they see on TV.

He also knows that the American population has been uniquely schooled into this level of ignorance because of policies he helped support, giving tax money away to rich people while starving the public education system, which would have promoted the critical thinking skills needed for people to walk away from coded approval of racist commentary.


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Originally posted by RosaL:

I have to say I think McCain deserves some credit here.


I actually agree, and I actually do give him (some) credit too. It takes some degree of gonads to stand up to your own strongest backers.

Of course, he is ultimately responsible for running the election into this muddy ditch in the first place...


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He's only sorry because it got out of control and he got caught. Don't kid yourself. Republicans love riding tigers they think they can control, ranging from the Religious Right's ability to marshal foot soldiers and money, to coded racist and sexist commentary designed to activate their voter base who can be relied on to act emotionally not logically.
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Of course I have no way of knowing what's in McCain's mind. But just as a general principle it seems to me to be a mistake to suppose that people one opposes ideologically and on a class basis must be utterly evil as individuals.

I'm not saying that anyone has said or implied that McCain is utterly evil on a personal level. I'm just making a general point.


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I think he deserves some credit for speaking like that though in my opinion the motivations are somewhat suspect. He did this after the flack started rolling in, bad press about it as well as some significant admonishment from his own party members including several prominent figures. I want to believe he is sincere and 'saw a bit of the light' so to speak but any sincerity that he spoke at that rally is mitigated by the fact that he is still running some pretty slanderous ads that counter those words he spoke. In fact the very day he spoke those words a new ad came out that connected Obamas wife Michelle with the whole Ayers, terrorist meme and the propaganda arm of the party a la Fox and talk radio has stepped things up in the past couple of days.

The stump speeches have changed somewhat but on all the other fronts nothing has changed. People are reporting that all of that crap are still in the 'talking points' of on the ground campaigning as well, so I guess the message hasn't reached there yet.

I can't help but feel rather cynical that it was more just a media thing to counter all the negative press. On that day his spokesperson came out with their official response which basically said they can't be responsible for what their supporters say or do, which is true to a point. I can't help but feel that his words were more about setting up a situation of plausible deniability and basically a typical strategy of talking out of both sides of their mouths.


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A revealing survey was conducted by Stanford University with the Associated Press and Yahoo! in September. It showed that Obama would be at least 6 percentage points higher in every poll if he were white. What is known as the “Bradley effect” (referring to the African-American Democratic candidate, Tom Bradley, for governor of California in 1982 who lost even though he was up by more than 10 points in many polls) is why few assume that the economic crisis and other indicators assure that Barack Obama will win the November 4 election.

The steelworkers’ union in Pennsylvania is going door to door in working class neighbourhoods to win support for Obama. They’ve heard comments from white co-workers about not voting for “that boy”, some saying outright they will never vote for a Black man — and these statements are only from those who are open about stating their views. These are workers who have lost their jobs or and are angry about the Wall Street bailout.

Phillip Goff, a social psychologist at UCLA who focuses his research on “racism without racists”, notes, “When we fixate on the racist individuals, we’ve focused on the least interesting way that race works. Most of the way race functions is without the need for racial animus.”

In other words, he explains, the problem is those whites and others who believe in racial equality and have no objection to electing a Black person as president, yet who discriminate unconsciously. This is particularly true for older Americans. The younger generations who grew up after the victory of the civil rights movements in the 1960s tend to be less concerned about race and voting for a Black president. - Source



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The response to the worldwide economic meltdown that was engineered by wealthy and powerful white people is now being blamed on black Americans. As the new talking point goes, undeserving black people caused worldwide financial markets to crash when they defaulted on home mortgages. It is a supreme irony that a black man is on the verge of becoming president, while the rest of black America is caught in the familiar role of scapegoat for the nation's troubles.

Obama is truly admired, even loved, by many white people. His appeals to hope and change are indeed potent. The consultants who marketed those phrases certainly knew the power behind them. Obama's refusal to directly address the needs of black people is also appealing to white people. They can support him without having to change the bigoted attitudes they still hold against other black people.

"Many white people, including some who claim to support Obama, continue to hold very negative opinions about black people."

However, it has to be pointed out that lofty campaign talking points can't placate people who are proudly and openly racist. They still don't to see a black person in the position of ultimate political authority, not even an eloquent, biracial, photogenic politician who never addresses black people's needs and who even has a white grand mother to trot out at convenient times. The very idea that a black man will be president makes these people very, very angry....

Obama appeals to many white people precisely because of his own denunciation of black demands for justice, or even the memory of past injustice. Rev. Jeremiah Wright knows that all too well.

The racist attacks directed at Obama pose a terrible dilemma. The primary one being that he doesn't acknowledge that racism exists. It has disappeared, bringing black people "90% of the way" towards equality.


Margaret Kimberley

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How pathetic can they get? This pathetic.

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A California Republican group's latest newsletter shows Barack Obama on a $10 food stamp. The picture shows Obama eating fried chicken, watermelon and ribs, an image that harks back to old derogatory stereotypes about African-Americans.

Diane Fedele, the president of the responsible organization, Chaffey Community Republican Women, Federated, says the image was distributed without any racist intent. "I never connected," she told a local newspaper. "It was just food to me. It didn't mean anything else."


Um....yeah, right lady!


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The Republicans are on a roll:

link


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In a statement Wednesday, Sacramento County GOP Chairman Craig MacGlashan, an attorney, said, "Let's face it, I screwed up.

"When asked about the site by a reporter, my first thought was not to beat up on this volunteer, when I should have thought first about doing the right thing - taking it down and condemning the material," said MacGlashan. "At first, I did not realize how offensive the material was, and in the rush to move past it, I didn't take it seriously enough."


Oh, please.

They're squealing with delight behind closed doors in the Republican party, even if they pro forma had to hang someone out to dry for this.

They managed to slip a nasty piece of work into the American political consciousness and do so effectively.

Those Americans who believe that it's fine to dehumanize anyone who isn't white will get a visceral thrill out of the "waterboard Obama" sticker, because it reinforces their basic idea that anyone who isn't white isn't really an American.

And as for the Obama-Osama thing, only an idiot would actually believe it's anything but BS (as in really BS, as in Bull Hockey), but nonetheless there are enough idiots in the US who'll go OMG HE'S A TERIST I KNEW IT and vote for that asshat McCain and his vicious sidekick Palin. (If you don't think she isn't vicious, look at the way she tried hounding that sheriff guy out of his job, and how she's been all too happy to say "you guys just GET IT!" when inciting a crowd to make defamatory and hateful remarks about Barack Obama)

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Video taken by Al-Jazeera with candid comments by Republican supporters.
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We'll never see that on CNN, eh, DC?
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I just have add a bit of humour to an otherwise horrible U.S truth.... Behold the Onion.


Portrayal Of Obama As Elitist Hailed As Step Forward For African Americans


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Casual Expressions of Racism
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*sigh*

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The make-shift ghost hangs from a noose above an"McCain-Palin" sign. A Barack Obama sign attached upside down. Obama's middle name: "Hussein" spray painted and misspelled above.

Mike Lunsford hung the ghost in his yard. He spoke to us off-camera, saying his views could hurt his employers business ... but he says make no mistake: He doesn't want an African American running the country.

Lunsford says he believes Barack Obama is not a "full blooded American." And he says the United States is a white, Christian nation - and only with white Christians should be in power. With Lunsford not willing to share his views on-camera:



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When seeing these ugly things and people in the bare cold light, I have to confess to a certain degree of trepidation and resignation regarding the thought that at some point in the future, a clash of ideologies will be bought upon socially minded groups of people, and not just at the political level. The danger from regressive constituencies has always existed, but it seems the more they feel under threat of being moved further to the fringe, the more they are prone to lash out in a physical sense at those who believe in a different society. This reality is not lost even on the likes of McCain, whose support is largely derived from this sort of ignorance, as he feebly tried to reign in some of the hatred during his campaign stops, even if the attempt was made solely for the camera's sake. At some point, those who count on such support will be unable to control the Frankenstein they helped to create. The fear is that one-day, a politician may come along who will see some benefit in stoking these hatreds for maximum effect, even beyond that which already exists. After seeing the pervasiveness of how these abhorrent views holds sway over North American society, I’m uncertain if the potential arising from this kind of clash might not bring about something better in the long run.

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Wishing for destruction to bring about change is not, IMO, a helpful thing. Yes, the violence that will result may convince many that racism really is not the answer, but in the process there will be many injuries and most likely deaths. This is not humane.

It took World War 2 to make people realize the extremes to which fascist ideologies coupled with dehumanization of an "other" can lead to horrible ends. Yet I would have well preferred there to be no war needed for people to have their minds changed.

Just as I now prefer that there be a peaceful changing of the minds, for all human beings should be able to co-exist without rancor or hate.


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It's not all bad

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14707.html


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quote:
Originally posted by DrConway:
Wishing for destruction to bring about change is not, IMO, a helpful thing.

Well, not wishing at all, hence the trepidation and uncertainty. Some may have learned lessons from a study of WWII, or by living through it, but those would not be the people we're discussing here. But really, what does one do when it comes upon you or the people that matter to you?


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Wow - some conservative is REALLY being a sore loser.

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A 74-year-old woman and a 46-year-old man with Obama signs in their front yards near the 600 block of South Villa Avenue received similar letters that had a Villa Park Village Hall return address. "Get the Obama signs off your property—now," the letter reads. "Failure to obey this order will result in the immediate death of all family members." Both residents said they will not remove their signs, though the man, who had voted Republican for 25 years before switching parties this year, said his wife is worried about letting their 7-year-old son play alone outside.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-villa_park_signoct17,0,1501910.story


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from the story:

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"it's unacceptable"

Indeed.

ETA: a major understatement - that's my point. Just in case I was being too subtle

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quote:
Originally posted by Doug:
Wow - some conservative is REALLY being a sore loser.

Looks like others here as well
Tires Slashed outside Obama Rally

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Someone slashed the tires of at least 30 vehicles parked outside the Crown Coliseum on Sunday during a rally for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, authorities said.

Sheriff’s deputies are investigating. The tires were cut while people were inside the Crown Coliseum listening to speeches, said Maj. E. Wright of the Cumberland County Sheriff’s Office.


There's even helpful sites on the net now that gives ideas on how to protect your lawn signs. There's at least 3 webcams set up to watch over signs that have been vandalized numerous times.
I've come across news stories of at least five alledged assaults and the reports of cars being keyed, sprayed or windows broken that are to numerous to list.

To be fair there are reports of Repubs signs being vandalized as well as a few other incidents of confrontation and vandalism including a Republican office, though I think a Dem office was messed up as well in Colorado.

I suppose to get an idea of which 'side' is worse one would have to gather all of these reports up, confirm them and compare. There does seem to be a lean towards the Dem side though and I can't help but feel just by the number I'm coming across that it's been picking up in the last week.


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Here comes Reverend Wright again

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/20/rick-davis-were-rethinkin_n_136173.html

Will Obama give another huge speech on race, will he play some of the sermons which are soo great, or will he just say "Hey, I already disavowed him".

This is the one thing that could really fuck him up. This is why I wished he'd called out Hannity's bullshit from the beginning.


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quote:
Originally posted by djelimon:
Here comes Reverend Wright again

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/20/rick-davis-were-rethinkin_n_136173.html

Will Obama give another huge speech on race, will he play some of the sermons which are soo great, or will he just say "Hey, I already disavowed him".

This is the one thing that could really fuck him up. This is why I wished he'd called out Hannity's bullshit from the beginning.


I don't think he'll say much of anything and follow the same strategy as they have with the whole Ayers thing. It hasn't worked and poll after poll has shown that beyond the GOP base people just don't care and are actually turned off by these sorts of attacks.
The surrogates may bring up Palin's pastor and perhaps we'll get to hear about Hagee the Nazi sympathizer and McCain again.

Then if it gets bad some 527 will blast the airwaves with the video of Palin and her nutty pastor who speaks about Christian's taking over government for God, the problem with "Israelites" and her getting exorcised and blessed against witchcraft and Wright, except for the Christian base that actually believes in that sort of thing won't seem half as bad. Palin's pastor problem is way more damning for the people they're trying to get votes from.

Frankly with all of that waiting in the wings, plus that fact that 'Wright affair' has already been done ad nauseum during the primaries, I think it speaks of the desperation or idiocy of the McCain campaign. 'Wright' could backfire huge.


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On the other hand, there's this:

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A pickup truck of early 1990s era was in the carpark, and scrawled across the side of it in big, carefully-lettered permanent marker were the words "Southern White Hard-Working Beer-Drinking Gun-Owning White Man In His 50s FOR OBAMA!", with the last two words drawn about eighteen inches high.

Strange things afoot in North Carolina

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Dead Bear Cub found dumped at WCU campus with Obama signs

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CULLOWHEE – A dead bear was found dumped this morning on the Western Carolina University campus, draped with a pair of Obama campaign signs, university police said.

Maintenance workers reported about 7:45 a.m. finding a 75-pound bear cub dumped at the roundabout near the Catamount statute at the entrance to campus, said Tom Johnson, chief of university police.

“It looked like it had been shot in the head as best we can tell. A couple of Obama campaign signs had been stapled together and stuck over its head,” Johnson said.


I have no idea whether this is a racist thing. Regardless it's f*ed up.


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quote:
Originally posted by ElizaQ:

I have no idea whether this is a racist thing. Regardless it's f*ed up.

It was a black bear cub. Granted, there's no other kind of bear readily available in North Carolina, but one has to wonder.


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Early voters in North Carolina, most of whom were black, were heckled and mocked by McCain supporters as they their cast their ballots Sunday. According to Washington Times reporter Christina Bellatoni primarily white McCain supporters shouted "terrorist" and complained that "Sundays are for church not voting"


Some NC Obama supporters also had their tires slashed


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While Obama has been the victim of a racist smear campaign, he made it worse by refusing on principle to condemn the racism of the Republicans. That gave the GOP the opening to escalate their rhetoric — to the extent that McCain-Palin rallies attract racists who denounce Obama as a “terrorist.”

The mainstream media have finally started to expose the McCain campaign for stoking anti-Obama hatred and racism. But there is another angle to this question that completely ignored.

The almost exclusive focus on what whites will and won’t do in the election has obscured the historic impact that African American voters hope to have. Black communities across the country are barely able to contain their pride, hope and exhilaration in an Obama presidency.

Typically, the most apolitical four hours of any day can be found on Black radio during comedic morning shows. But for months, these shows have been imploring people to register to vote — and they’ve now shifted to get-out-the-vote campaigns. There are daily reports on the state of the campaign and constant mocking of the McCain-Palin ticket.

There are other signs of a massive Black turnout on November 4. In Georgia, of the 150,000 people who have already cast ballots early, almost 40 percent were African American. The long primary season resulted in millions more voters being registered, and many of them are Black. Moreover, African Americans feel as if they have a stake in the election, which in turn will create even more community pressure to get everyone out to vote.

This is why the McCain-Palin campaign has turned to a focus on suppressing the vote by raising questions about the community organization ACORN and its voter registration drive.

In all likelihood, none of these desperate measures will work. In many ways, the upcoming election is a referendum on race and racism in the U.S. The likely victory of Barack Obama won’t end racism in America. That will be the job of ordinary people — Black, Brown and white — organizing in struggle to press for their demands.

But an Obama victory will certainly indicate how much ideas and consciousness of regular Americans — the vast majority of working-class people — have changed in the last 40 years.


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Michelle
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posted 25 October 2008 11:41 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Has anyone been following this race-baiting hoax that the McCain campaign latched onto and played for all it was worth?

Daily Kos posts on the Ashley Todd hoax

A young, white, female McCain supporter and volunteer claimed that she was mugged at an ATM by a 6'4" black man, and that when he saw the McCain bumper sticker on her car, he beat her up and carved a "B" on her face for "Barack".

Turns out it was all a lie. But McCain and Palin milked it for all it was worth, and the McCain campaign even embellished the story themselves.


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quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Daily Kos posts on the Ashley Todd hoax
Here's a better link
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More on this story


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Attack ad's darkened images prompt questions
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A Republican attack ad invites viewers to "meet the real Ashwin Madia," but the still photos featured in the spot present a noticeably darker version of the 3rd District DFL congressional candidate.

"At least three of the photos of Madia were obviously darkened, using one method or another," public affairs and media consultant Dean Alger told KARE 11.



"Before and after" pics are at the link.

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quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:

A young, white, female McCain supporter and volunteer claimed that she was mugged at an ATM by a 6'4" black man, and that when he saw the McCain bumper sticker on her car, he beat her up and carved a "B" on her face for "Barack".

The best part, for those who missed it, was that the B was backwards.


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Those who attempt to discredit the Bradley Effect are, in reality, seeking to declare racism in America a non-issue, unworthy of further attention. They have seized on Barack Obama's campaign as proof that Black agitation is outdated and even harmful to the national interest.
Glen Ford

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The long lines of early voters at the Temple Terrace Library have caused concern for the Republican Headquarters a block away. It has also caused a major storm in local politics.

The head of the Hillsborough GOP, David Storck, distributed an email from a Republican Party volunteer saying the voters are a threat.

That's because, as the volunteer says in the email, he sees "car loads of black Obama supporters coming from the inner city to cast their votes for Obama."


The horror!


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I just found something that makes the assassination plot against Barack Obama much much weirder.

quote:
Brian A. Weaks, an ATF special agent and a lead investigator in the case, said in a court affidavit unsealed Monday that the two men had hoped to carry out the assassination -- by driving their vehicle at top speed and firing high-powered rifles at Obama from their car windows -- in a grand style.

"Both individuals stated that they would dress in all-white tuxedos and wear top hats during the assassination attempt," Weaks said. "


Assassination musical theatre-style


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quote:
Originally posted by Doug:
I just found something that makes the assassination plot against Barack Obama much much weirder.

Yeah, after reading about those two clowns, I've come to the conclusion that their chances of succeeding, had they not been caught, would have been about nil.

The way the president of the U.S. is protected nowadays, an assassination plan would have to be meticulously developed by skilled and intelligent plotters. From the sound of it, these two jokers would have a difficult time robbing a convenience store.


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I have done some work in the anti-racism world. The number 8 and 14 have important meanings to neo-nazis.

So when I read that in the assasination plot they planned to kill 102 people
which is 88 plus 14
8 when looked at as the eighth letter of the alphabet is H
so HH or heil hitler
14 refers to the 14 word oath,
"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

The arrested are sicko fucks but what is worse they are neo nazi scum as well


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Microtargeting?
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Interesting anecdote and probably a testament to ground organization. I have no idea what this means. Friday night (which happens to be the start of our Sabbath) my wife answered the phone to hear a man stating he was from the McCain-Palin campaign. He asked who she was supporting. She replied that we will vote for Obama. He replied with "but he's a f-----g n---er!".
...
My wife and I are Black.

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quote:
Originally posted by Michelle:
Has anyone been following this race-baiting hoax that the McCain campaign latched onto and played for all it was worth?

Daily Kos posts on the Ashley Todd hoax


Apologies for the long quote, but a friend of mine from Pittsburgh sent me this moving Open Letter from some women in the area where the hoax attack was alleged to have occurred and I couldn't find it posted anywhere on the Internets.

quote:

An Open Letter to Ashley Todd

Dear Ashley,

It sounds like you've had a helluva week. Sorry that you had such an unwelcoming introduction to Pittsburgh. Following your interrogation, the police reported that you were "upset with the media" for turning this hoax into a "political firestorm." As some of the ladies of Bloomfield, we'd like to take this opportunity to step up and tell you how the "political firestorm" you instigated directly affected the community we live and work in.

Many of us are low-income, but our neighborhood is hardly the "wrong side" of Pittsburgh. This might be hard for you to recognize, coming from an exclusive Texas University, but we are a strong working-class community full of families, students and seniors who work hard and take care of one another. If you don't believe us, just come out to Nico's Recovery Room on game day sometime and see for yourself.

We've worked hard to respond to racism, violence and poverty in our neighborhood. Bloomfield is a diverse community and the fear that you created by concocting a story of politically-motivated violence has made it harder for us to trust each other and see value in the differences around us. Word gets around fast when someone is hurt in our community and it's awfully scary to think that someone here could be targeted and attacked for their political beliefs.

Being poor and middle class women, most of us have also had our own experiences with sexual assault and violence. Having dealt with such a high-profile hoax, will our police officers be less likely to trust us now if we approach them about a sexual assault? Our police department has not had a sterling record when it comes to dealing with victims of sexual or domestic violence. (See, for example, the department's history of lax responses to officers accused of abusing their partners or spouses.) Your false accusations have made it more difficult for us to be heard and believed when we go to the police about abuse or assault.

Ashley, we hear that when you were in crisis, you did not seek any medical attention, even though you were just blocks away from two different hospitals. Maybe, like us, you don't have good health insurance. Many of us have struggled to get medical care. We've gone to collections agencies because we couldn't pay our medical bills. We've toughed it out through illnesses. We've ignored our own depression or trauma because we couldn't afford mental health treatment. We think that everyone in our neighborhood deserves quality medical care that addresses both their physical and mental health needs.

In conclusion, Ashley, you've done a lot of damage to our community and we just want to take an opportunity to speak our piece. We will not tolerate race or politically-based fear mongering in our neighborhoods. Let there be no violence against women in our community. May everyone get the health care that they need - yinz included.

In struggle,

Some Ladies in Bloomfield


[ 02 November 2008: Message edited by: Mick ]


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Wow. That letter is incredible. Thanks so much for posting it, Mick.
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