Guess I'm not.

Last election, the party talked about ideas but I don't think any actual NDP ideas stayed with the public, except legalising marijuana and inheritence taxes. Made a good impression but a vauge one.

Then Jack showed that the NDP can get things done. A big shift in the minds of most Canadians to see the NDP as a can-do party, and our trustworthiness is highly rated, but the question for the public remains "where would the NDP lead us?". You may think that question is easy to answer, but most Canadians, not being policy wonks, just hear a lot of double-talk when you start spouting policies. They believe that our intentions are good, and they're starting to think we're competent enough to lead, but do they want to go where we'd be taking them? The NDP's biggest challenge is messaging the vision in a way that people can answer that question with a big "yes!"

A party has to inspire people relative to the risk they feel they'd be taking in voting for them. They have to feel that following this path is worth the risk. That's why the Liberals, who are thoroughly uninspiring, are still in the lead, because there is no risk perceived in voting Liberal. You get more of the same. The CP has to inspire a bit but it coasts a lot on being the default option for Liberal haters, just as the Bloc do in Quebec. More than any other the NDP has to inspire its new voters, because they know they take a big risk in casting an NDP vote for the first time. They don't quite know what they're voting for.

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Originally posted by Kevin_Laddle:
We are getting results for people.

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As opposed to getting results from people?

Getting results by people?

Getting results in people?

Getting results up people?

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Originally posted by pebbles:

As opposed to getting results from people?

Getting results by people?

Getting results in people?

Getting results up people?

Getting results between people?

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What are you trying to do? Those are all idiotic in that they don't accuratley describe what the NDP is doing. So

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Originally posted by Kevin_Laddle:
What are you trying to do?

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Figure out why the emphasis was placed on the "for".

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Those are all idiotic in that they don't accuratley describe what the NDP is doing. So FUCK OFF!

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Originally posted by Euhemeros:
(it's so bad now, we've got a Shoppers Drug Mart in the new Dentistry building

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How is that "bad"?

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Not so much that as that large portions of the university endowment are being turned into condos and townhomes for sale on the market. It's supposed to be land that's going to be available for the university to expand into in the future instead of being turned into 800,000$ townhomes.

NDP, angering do-nothing Grits and redneck Tories since 1961

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NDP, atleast we arn't the Liberals

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NDP, you know the ones you shoulda voted for last time...

If you are addicted to CPAC like many of us, it can soun d repetitive to hear Jack recite the slogan over and over - but the vast majority of people will only hear it once or twice - if we are lucky.

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Originally posted by Kaitlin Stocks:
But the worst ever was Kim Campbell with the Tina Turner song "Simply the Best"... hehe...

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At the leadership convention where she was elected, Campbell used INXS's "New Sensation". I suspect that they wanted people to key on the lyrics referring to "a perfect moment". For some reason, all I could hear was: "And you will find out in the end that there really is no difference."

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Originally posted by Stockholm:
I find the Conservative slogan a real laugh - "Standing Up for Canada" when they are known to be the most pro-American party!

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Yes, but maybe they are trying to fix a perceived weakness. After they splash their million of dollar advertising budget drumming that slogan into our heads, some voters will forget what a sell-out party they are.

On that basis, we should have a slogan that counters our weaknesses in the eyes of the voters:

ie;

Finally relevant after all these years.

Bob Rae (Glen Clark) was really a Liberal

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Originally posted by Hawkins:
In Carleton Aramark foods has exclusive rights for the campus, and given there is no commercial area directly around campus it makes it hard for people to get a good selection of food.

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That's why smart people go to U of O!

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Originally posted by Jacob Two-Two:
The NDP's biggest challenge is messaging the vision in a way that people can answer that question with a big "yes!"

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Originally posted by Stockholm:
Do you realize that the average person probably only watched 15 minutes out of a two hour debate?

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Put Canada back on track - Nationalize Canadian National Railway!

"Getting Results for Canadians, from the Yukon to Atlantic Canada"

or just plain old

"So

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Originally posted by pebbles:
Sean Fine, 8:19 p.m. I'm still trying to figure out why Layton stresses getting results for PEOPLE. Are the rest of them working for plants and animals?

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Actually, two of them are:

Marijuana Party

"Getting results for Lafleur Advertising!"

The problem is, as has already been stated, if everyone's a person, it's meaningless. And as a consequence of that, the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear it is "who doesn't count as a person?" That is to say, where is the NDP's emphasis, and what gradation of personhood am I allocated? Who's more a person than me and who's less?

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Originally posted by Loretta:
Maybe the emphasis is on "people" since the other parties seem to try to get results for corporations.

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Originally posted by pebbles:

Moderatrix!

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I'm with Laddle on this one.

The "Moderatrix" is likely to be setting her cross-hairs on you, Pebbles. Bam! Bam!!

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Originally posted by Red Albertan:

It is too generic and too 'third person'. When Layton uses it, it feels like he is talking about someone else other than 'me'. What would have been wrong with a more personal 'Getting results for you', or 'Working to better your life' or something like that?

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Originally posted by Robert James:
Jack might do better to say "getting RESULTS for people."

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