Moral and ethical codes govern our freedoms. Plainly stated, decorum and good taste is expected from anyone in the course of expressing their opinion. With that in mind, imagine my (lack of) surprise when my 12 year old daughter brought in the flyer that was sticking out of our mailbox this past Sunday morning.....

http://www.themoderateseparatist.com/2008/01/bill-whatcott-and-uncontrollable.html

[Title edited by moderator as a sop to both group consensus and good taste, two things which admittedly very seldom converge!]

[Title edited again as I like to keep everyone happy]

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Originally posted by Erik Redburn:
I think he's questioning the "taste" of idiots like Whatcott himself. And maybe how far is far enough RE handing out hate-pamplets to kids.

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[ 13 January 2008: Message edited by: Erik Redburn ]

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Originally posted by Erik Redburn:
Ya, I briefly wondered about that too but since I've been waiting ages for signs of conservatives themselves publically rejecting their extremist wing (for real) I just shrugged it off. Maybe I was wrong to assume it was just outrage.

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Well, you are going to have to wait ages longer for rejection and outrage at their extremist wings actions. IMV, they all see it that way, some are just smart enough not to say it, and use the others to say it for them.

You see, it is a matter of ideology, the right wing believes that people are born bad, and become good, through punishment, the threat of punishment and through adherence to what they believe The Bible says.

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Originally posted by Leigh Patrick:
Plainly stated, decorum and good taste is expected from anyone in the course of expressing their opinion.

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Personally, I prefer hate speech that isn't in good taste to the more polite, socially acceptable kind.

What? You weren't aware that babble won the "Liberal of the Month" award for September 2006?

Read all about it here.

Many quotable quotes, like:

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Appealing only to those who are so far to the political left that they make Trudeau look like Margaret Thatcher, rabble spins fables of the great American beast. NDP leader (and Canadian Pussy #1) Jack Layton is held up as a hero for wanting to pull our troops out of Afghanistan. Only the real socialistic idiot would read these posts and agree with the opinions within.

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Well put, Leigh! I'd like to agree with your posts, but that would make me a "real socialistic idiot"...

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What? You weren't aware that babble won the "Liberal of the Month" award for September 2006?

Read all about it here.

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Oh yes, I was so proud! I was flown out to Turner Valley for the presentation ceremonies, and there was a wonderful gala afterward somewhere in downtown Millarville. (glad I rented that tux!) Come by sometime and see the award on my mantle. It gets shared among the staff.

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In one of the few threads I participated in, I learned that I am a knuckle-dragging, uneducated, oil-money loving, pro-Iraq war, Neanderthal hick.

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Originally posted by Draco:
Personally, I prefer hate speech that isn't in good taste to the more polite, socially acceptable kind.

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I too would like to suggest that the thread title be changed; let's not go adopting Whatcott's tactics now.

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[ 14 January 2008: Message edited by: remind ]

Leigh, being a) pro-SSM and b) pro-legalizing marijuana doesn't make you a lefty, it makes you on the sane side of an argument that a) is over and b) is only a matter of time. The righties may hate you for it, but their tiny minds are narrow. You should know, you're one of them. I mean, a link to Ann Coulter's page on your blog? Dude!

By your own words you find rabble all commie 'n socialist 'n stuff. So what the hell are you doing here? You might get some red paint on ya if you hang around us long enough.

And your thread title is really in bad taste, not matter what kind of fuckwad Bill Whatcott is. Maybe you think you're pro-gay so you can write anything you want about men's butts, disease and farting. Guess what? You're wrong.

[ 14 January 2008: Message edited by: bigcitygal ]

Well, we don't have a real defined policy here which speaks to matters of taste, and god knows I have little enough myself, so absent that my first instinct was to leave it alone.

However, we do have a policy about naming babblers in titles, banned or not, and in discussing banned babblers. Our friend Bill is a banned babbler. Believe it or not, he was actually here for quite a while, but that was back in more innocent times.

As well, it's not like this thread was of any redeeming value. There are discussions going on here about free speech which are a lot more productive and intelligent than this.

Therefore I'm going to use my magic modwand to make the thread title more tasteful.

I have no doubt the original poster will feel hard done by, but to be honest I don't really take him all that seriously, and he does have a lovely little vanity site to rail against me all he wants.

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And your thread title is really in bad taste, not matter what kind of fuckwad Bill Whatcott is. Maybe you think you're pro-gay so you can write anything you want about men's butts, disease and farting. Guess what? You're wrong.

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While on the topic of taste, the frequent
peppering of the f-word in your narratives does not lend strength to your arguments.

Oldgoat's re-titling, with the original now not evident, also tended to get you, as a language police-person, off the hook.

Men's butts? As I recall, the butts, or rectums, in the title were not attributed gender.

oldgoat,

Your humor is appreciated, but I think a thread originator, no matter how detested, deserves better.

What has Farting to do with Rectal Dysfunction?

Farts happen, with or without Rectal Dysfunction.

Ever farted through piles?

The thread title was problamatic for any number of reasons as well as it's substantial "ick" factor.

Also, this thread went pretty much down the tube from the get-go, and I'm not really wasting a lot of gravitas on the original poster. I afforded myself a bit of whimsey. not every day you get whimsey out of farting and anal gonnoreha. or Bill Whatcott for that matter.

HOWEVER, maybe you have a point. Going from Bill whatcott; uncontrollable flatulence and rampant rectal gonnoreha", or whatever it was to "Raindrops on Roses,...Whiskers on Kittens..." was self indulgent of me, and rendered the title uselsess for anyone trying to find it.

It may be difficult to make the original title actually 'tasteful' in a Miss Manners sense and retain the original point, but lemme work with it a bit here. Warning, this still may involve a slightly juvenile humour.

(btw, it is Mr. Whatcott's contention that anal sex damages the rectum to the point where flatulance cannot be kept in by the flatulee, hence uncontrollable)

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Originally posted by bliter:
It's a small thing and I mention it, perhaps, because you seem to have enjoyed targeting me, BCG:

And your thread title is really in bad taste, not matter what kind of fuckwad Bill Whatcott is. Maybe you think you're pro-gay so you can write anything you want about men's butts, disease and farting. Guess what? You're wrong.

While on the topic of taste, the frequent
peppering of the f-word in your narratives does not lend strength to your arguments.

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Where did BCG target you in this thread? The only person targeted is the originator of the thread and the thread title. Or are you saying you are leigh patrick too? Or are you bringing stuff into this thread topic from another?

You cannot compare f bombs to homophobic hate mongering trash sorry.

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Oldgoat's re-titling, with the original now not evident, also tended to get you, as a language police-person, off the hook.

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oldgoat,

I think a thread originator, no matter how detested, deserves better.

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[ 14 January 2008: Message edited by: remind ]

I changed it again.

remind,

While on the topic of taste, the frequent
peppering of the f-word in your narratives does not lend strength to your arguments."

Actually in this case I think it does. Fuck can mean a great many things in modern parlance, good as well as bad. It has great natural range and power, though when I was young it was often just used as a c0mmom adjective or adverb. Fuckwads like Whatcott though....well, reference to his prosterior probably has less innocent intent here. I see I may have been too trusting about that now.

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Originally posted by remind:

Well, you are going to have to wait ages longer for rejection and outrage at their extremist wings actions. IMV, they all see it that way, some are just smart enough not to say it, and use the others to say it for them.

You see, it is a matter of ideology, the right wing believes that people are born bad, and become good, through punishment, the threat of punishment and through adherence to what they believe The Bible says. ....

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And that is true too, socons are Calvinist to the core and so are neoliberals when it comes to economics. Also have a universal resistance to the idea of universal equality. Unless it serves some defensive rhetorical purpose or helps "open" some "market". I do remember a somewhat less angy sort though, I don't think that's merely my own projections. Some understanding that some social contract has to be respected, some common standards recognised, not this radical attack-whoever gets in their way.

[ 15 January 2008: Message edited by: Erik Redburn ]

People, the original point of the posting was to call attention to another one of Bill Whatcott's publicity stunt - one that is beyond bad taste even for him.

The title was a play on the original title of his flyer. Thought that one was obvious - there was no ill-intent towards any group, gay or otherwise. Only oversensitive people looking to stir the s*^t would believe differently.

Finally, the fact that my political pov is more to the right than the usual babble reader should make little difference to the posting. Questioning my blog's link to Ann Coulter? Welcome to free speech, folks. It doesn't mean I agree with her rants - but it does mean I read a wide range of opinion. That's called keeping an open mind.

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So, how about that freaky Whatcott guy, eh...?

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That's what you're sitting around wondering about on a Sunday afternoon? It's official, Whatcott has a more interesting life than you do. How tragic.