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glasswares
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posted 25 June 2007 09:10 PM      Profile for glasswares     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Posted with out comment

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/2007/06/25/north-women.html


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SavageInTheCity
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posted 11 July 2007 03:47 PM      Profile for SavageInTheCity     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
O.K. Ill go first....

1) Doesnt self-government/autonomy kinds of cut you off from these "hand-outs" that are given to "funded" reserves

I mean, as a Quebec FN member, we arent at the point where we can form a self-government (i think we can but....)

If WE were a self-government, with a self-imposed, agreed upon finicial situation, we wouldnt be allowed to "fight" for these funds.

You guys decided you wanted to be on your own, formed your own government, and decided to be a self-sufficient Nation.

2) The experience I have had with Northern FN is that its got a lot less factors that lead to violence to begin with. Alcohol and drugs are not as accesible as down here. Damn, If i lived up north, and a guy touched my sister, Id take the F@%)er fishing, and hed never be seen again. I dunno....family ties are closer the more remote you go.

Anyways, thats me.....correct me if im an idiot......


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Trudeau
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posted 20 July 2007 08:36 PM      Profile for Trudeau     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The North needs alot of help.

It suffer, at least in Nunavut from a suicide rate 9 times the Canadian average.

Life expectancy is 10 years less.

It leads the nation in tobacco use, STDs, HPV, sexual assaults, illiteracy, unemployment, incarceration rate, cost of living, small birth rate babies, lowest levels of education and many of its colonial masters will not even agree to give it any access to the royalties that the feds are pulling out of the ground such as diamonds, oil and gold.

This was not the vision that people had when they worked so hard to convince the federal government to grant them this new Territory.

Through chronic underfunding from a right wing goverment in Ottawa that cares nothing about northerners they have seen so many programs cancelled, funding capped, their land claim not honoured and a mean-spirited Prime Minister who only goes north to make photo op announcements about things HE is interested in and they do not happen to be on his list.

We want to protect our sovereignty and our northwest passage but don't seem to give a darn about the Canadians that life up there. Ironic isn't it?


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Bernard
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posted 15 August 2007 07:58 PM      Profile for Bernard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
It is time for the three territories to be made provinces and given control over their lands. There is enough natural resource wealth in the north for the three territories to be financially ok.

It also end the colonial way Ottawa deals with the North


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1234567
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posted 16 August 2007 07:51 AM      Profile for 1234567     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Canadian government won't allow that. There's too much money to be made off of the diamonds and oil found in the territories.
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N.Beltov
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posted 16 August 2007 08:04 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
1234567: The Canadian government won't allow that. There's too much money to be made off of the diamonds and oil found in the territories.

You forgot to add, "... by white people."


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Bernard
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posted 16 August 2007 11:54 AM      Profile for Bernard   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
and you are forgetting, making them provinces would mean the southerns could no longer say "Oh, look at all the money we pay to allow you to live in the north."
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Michelle
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posted 18 August 2007 05:32 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They'd still say it. Unfortunately.
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1234567
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posted 18 August 2007 07:30 AM      Profile for 1234567     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And southern Canada is so proud of the fact that the Inuit & FN rangers patrol the north protecting Canada's sovereignty.
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fellowtraveller
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posted 23 September 2007 10:34 AM      Profile for fellowtraveller     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The number one industry in all 3 territories is unquestionably: government. For example, Yukon with a population of only 32,000 people has many distinct layers of govt: federal, territorial, First Nations and local/municipal.
Essentially, all are funded by federal taxes. First Nations governments (there are several)are a growth industry, taking over some of the functions of the Territory and feds.
The place is a wholly dependent economic basket case.

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