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CMOT Dibbler
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posted 31 May 2008 07:27 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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I CANNOT say that I ever liked Ehud Olmert. But now I almost feel sorry for him.

When the Kettle Calls the Pot Black


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posted 01 June 2008 04:11 AM      Profile for B.L. Zeebub LLD     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
CMOT, I'd like to give a genteel "Pip-pip" to your efforts to keep these threads going. Hurrah.
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Yeah, I second that motion, well done CMOT.
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posted 01 June 2008 07:16 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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The IDF's Central Command has opened an internal probe into what so far seems to have been an illegal effort to evict some 120 Palestinian families from the caves they inhabit near Hebron.


From the vault: IDF to probe efforts to evict cave dwellers


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posted 01 June 2008 08:11 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The IDF is going to investigate itself? How useful will that be?
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Originally posted by N.Beltov:
The IDF is going to investigate itself? How useful will that be?

You relize that the article is seven years old, right?


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posted 01 June 2008 09:38 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Whoops. I missed your reference to "the vault".

So, plenty of time has passed. How's the IDF investigation of itself going, anyway?


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No need to investigate old evictions - it's time to BUILD!!!

Israel plans more settler homes

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The Israeli government has announced plans to build nearly 900 new housing units in a part of East Jerusalem that is considered occupied territory.

The contentious move comes amid the ongoing political battle swirling around Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who is accused of corruption. ...

The Palestinian Authority has condemned the news of more settlement building on occupied territory.

The Israeli government insists that any final peace deal will see these districts redrawn inside the Israeli border.


I don't understand why these Palestinians whine so much. It's not Israel's fault - it's their new map-drawing software. The Palestinians should complain to Micro$oft.


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posted 01 June 2008 10:46 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Well, another 20 km north of Hebron is Bethlehem. If the IDF decides to evict Palestinians from caves around that city as well, I would suggest that they watch out for a couple answering to the names of Joseph and Mary. The eviction may result in some powerful blowback.
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The Israeli government insists that any final peace deal will see these districts redrawn inside the Israeli border.

Don't these bozos realize where they are? A final peace deal? What, like the one negotiated between Thutmose and the Matanni?


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posted 06 June 2008 04:39 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Israeli Committee Against House Demolition-This clip is from a 28 minute educational DVD of a presentation in April 2005 by Jeff Halper of the work and purpose of the Israeli Committee Against House Demoliton. Jeff is the organization's Director and Coordinator
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AFTER MONTHS of a tough and bitter race, a merciless struggle, Barack Obama has defeated his formidable opponent, Hillary Clinton. He has wrought a miracle: for the first time in history a black person has become a credible candidate for the presidency of the most powerful country in the world.

No, I Can't!

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posted 08 June 2008 08:28 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Israelis Against House Demolitions & George Galloway Pt1
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THIS WEEK, the Prime Minister of Canada made a dramatic statement in Parliament: he apologized to the indigenous peoples of his country for the injustices done to them for generations by successive Canadian governments.

An Apology

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Jewish settlers beat palestinian shepherds
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AND SUDDENLY: quiet. No Qassams. No mortar shells. The tanks are not rolling. The aircraft are not bombing.

All Quiet on the Gaza Front


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posted 21 June 2008 05:51 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
ICAHD delivers House Demolition debris(this video is in Hebrew)
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posted 21 June 2008 06:02 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Anti-Occupation Activist in Jerusalem Speaks on Lebanon
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posted 28 June 2008 04:21 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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WHAT EXCITED the Israelis this week? What glued them to the TV and radio sets? What made them rush to buy newspapers at the kiosks?

Ole - Ole, Ole, Ole

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posted 29 June 2008 08:11 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
bump!
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Israeli human rights group condemns occupiers for depriving Palestinians of water:

Grave water shortage in West Bank: B'Tselem

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Average per capita consumption throughout the West Bank is 66 liters, two-thirds of the minimal amount needed according to the WHO. These figures include water for livestock, meaning that the water consumed for personal use is even less.

In comparison, average daily water consumption in Israeli cities is 235 liters, and 214 liters in local councils, 3.5 times higher than Palestinian consumption in the West Bank. ...

Israel holds complete control of the water sources shared by Israel and the Palestinians, primarily the Mountain Aquifer, and prohibits by army order any Palestinian drilling of wells without a permit. At the same time, Israel draws from the West Bank, primarily from the Jordan Valley, some 44 mcm, five million more than it supplies to the Palestinian Authority. Israel allocates to Palestinians only 20 percent of the water from the Mountain Aquifer, and prevents the PWA to develop additional water sources to enable greater water supply for Palestinians in the West Bank.



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A Palestinian father-of-two has been named as the driver of a bulldozer that careered through Jerusalem today, crushing cars and repeatedly ramming a public bus.

Three people were killed, including the mother of a young baby, when Hossam Dawiath commandeered the bulldozer from the construction site in west Jerusalem, where he worked, and careered the wrong way up the busy Jaffa road.

Times Online


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You should really move that article.
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Why? He was avenging the murder and genocide committed on the Palestinians by the settler scum in the only way that gets attention and results. He's a true martyr and more should emulate him. If every noble Palestinian killed 3 settler scum the injustice would be over in a week.

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Originally posted by Milagro:
Why? He was avenging the murder and genocide committed on the Palestinians by the settler scum in the only way that gets attention and results. He's a true martyr and more should emulate him. If every noble Palestinian killed 3 settler scum the injustice would be over in a week.

You sound like a Mossad agent. Blowing your cover after 2 posts - that's pretty pathetic. I guess "intelligence" is just your job, not your middle name, eh?


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IT WAS just a passing conversation, but it has stuck in my memory.
Satan's Counsel

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Israel Army still allowing abuse of handcuffed Palestinians - Jerusalem Post

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In the West Bank, Israeli forces have invaded and shut down offices of Tadamun - a Hamas-"linked" charity - as well as a girls' school, a sports club, and a medical centre:

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Palestinian officials say troops broke doors and overturned cabinets before sealing off the building.

Hamas says charitable organisations which it supports provide legitimate social services and have nothing to do with its armed struggle against Israel.

BBC Jerusalem correspondent Tim Franks says the Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas and the Israeli government are concerned about Hamas gaining further support and strength across the West Bank.


BBC News.


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IF YOU want to understand the policy of a country, look at the map - as Napoleon recommended.
Anyone who wants to guess whether Israel and/or the United States are going to attack Iran should look at the map of the Strait of Hormuz between Iran and the Arabian Peninsula.


Why Not?

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I SPENT the whole day flipping between the Israeli channels and Aljazeera.

It was an eerie experience: in a fraction of a second I could switch between two worlds, but all the channels reported on exactly the same occasion. In one section of the breaking news, the events happened at a distance of a few dozen meters from each other, but they could just as well have happened on two different planets.


Different Planets

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That commentary from Uri Avnery has an interesting metaphor for the world that Israelis, and particularly their leaders, live in:

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Avnery: The deadly mixture of arrogance and ignorance that is typical of all Israeli dealings with the Arab world is also responsible for what happened on Wednesday. It would be wonderful if this taught our leaders some modesty and consideration for the feelings of others, as well as the ability to read the map of reality, instead of living in a bubble of national autism. But I am afraid that the opposite will happen: a strengthening of the feelings of anger, insult, sanctimoniousness and hatred.

"A bubble of national autism" describes an entire society impaired in its social interactions, stuck in repetitive behaviors, and unable to move on. What are prospects for peace with such a neighbor?


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Heart patient dies after soldiers prevent her evacuation to Hospital
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Ilan Pappé Speaks on Anniversary of al Nakba
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posted 20 July 2008 11:58 AM      Profile for N.Beltov   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Pappé's remarks are simply outstanding: they bring an icy clarity to the horrors of the occupation and the Zionist ideology behind it, and he has an almost giddy enthusiasm for exposing and disentangling the appalling propaganda used to justify these ongoing crimes. He's particularly brilliant at walloping the calculated conflation of cause and effect that passes for news and reporting and shows how these are typically exchanged for each other.

The link from CMOT, for example, has Pappé outlining the key decisions made by the Israeli political elites right at the time of the beginning of the occupation in June 1967. These decisions are in flat contradiction to the narrative of "a debate" between hawks and doves taking place over a number of years after 1967.

Firstly, that they could not, as they did in 1948 (an admission that Pappé finds useful in confirming his view that those very same elites knew that what happened in 1948 was a deliberate and diabolical ethnic cleansing) carry out a complete ethnic cleansing; secondly, that both the Gaze Strip and the West Bank were to be viewed as permanent and God-given property of the State of Israel forever; and thirdly, that since these territories were not to be completely ethnically cleansed of Palestinians, (though many thousands were "cleansed", of course) therefore it became necessary to develop the monstrous idea of turning an entire territory into a mega-prison (a gift to the world of Zionist ideology, says Pappé).

Pappé points out, however, that British law was critical in helping the Israelis on how to run human mega-prisons of that size. British law was, for example, the source for the technique of demolishing houses. For house to house demolition. For shooting without warning and for arrest without trial. All of these were used in 1936-39 by the British against Palestinian resistance and the Israeli elites were excellent students of the British.

How Pappé ends his remarks in the 30 minute video is not simply an outstanding historian elaborating the facts as he understands them. No, in the best tradition of scientists who refuse to adopt an evil social neutrality about that which they are expert on, Pappé challenges all of his listeners out of the slumber of indifference ...

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Ilan Pappé: Everyone is an accomplice in this crime - from the British Government and the American administration in 1967 to the British Government of 2008 and the American administration in 2008. But because we are talking about two democracies, I'm not sure it is only the political elites which are accomplices in the crimes. It is also the people who vote them in and vote them out and do not make the distiction between their policies in Palestine and elsewhere and who don't understand the connection between these policies and allow these politicians to be elected again and again ... and the Palestinians are paying the price.

So I hope that we can, at least, highlight what has now become a known secret, that is the Israeli direct ... how does the Zionist idelogy produce the policies of the mega-prison of Palestine and how we are all accomplices unless we do our best to demolish the prison walls and liberate the people of Palestine.



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Meanwhile, prof. proves Israel is both dangerously paranoid and racist.

New York Times


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And then there is this:

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A human rights group has released a video showing an Israeli soldier shooting at an arrested Palestinian in a West Bank village.

The footage released by B'Tselem on Sunday shows a 27 year Palestinian handcuffed and blindfolded as an army officer holds him by the arm and another soldier shots rubber bullets at his leg.



The whole, ugly truth

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posted 24 July 2008 03:29 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Lesson of journalism from Amira Hass
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posted 24 July 2008 03:50 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm confused. Pappe says that there wasn't really a debate about what to do with the territories and then later on in the clip he says there was. Which is it?
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I think Pappé, at least in the clip I watched, made reference to a fake debate, between "hawks" and "doves", in which some people (some of the "doves") were more serious about the "debate" than others, whose result was irrelevant to "the facts on the ground" in any case. But it was a useful "exercise" giving, as it did, the appearance of vigorous discussion and debate prior to what was a "reasoned" decision about the occupation.

This sort of thing happens in Canada. Gigantic reports, sometimes called Royal Commissions, are produced in which vigorous "debates" are outlined. The Reports then take their place, alongside numerous other, similar reports, as a means of collecting dust. First Nations people in Canada are very familiar with such "debates", and their results, over the years.

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IN ONE of the most beautiful songs in the Bible, the poet vows: "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, / Let my right hand forget her cunning. / If I do not remember thee, / Let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth; / If I prefer not Jerusalem above my chief joy!" (Psalms 137:5)
"If I Forget Thee, Umm Touba…"

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Israel, Palestine, and the US Congress: Realities and Opportunities, Part 2
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NEW YORK - Right at the door, before extending his one hand (the left) in greeting, Albie Sachs sternly informs me that he has no more than one hour for the interview. That's understandable: The man is 73, a justice on his country's highest court, he has authored four fascinating and beautifully written autobiographies, as well as a number of texts about law and society (including one on sexism and British law) - and now, as he hastens to point out, he's busy writing two more books, simultaneously. At this moment, he's probably thinking to himself: "Oy, oy, oy. Why did I ever consent to be interviewed?"


The constant battle of Albie Sachs


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EHUD OLMERT'S resignation speech reached us on our way back from a demonstration.

We were protesting the death of Ahmad Moussa, aged 10, who was murdered during a demonstration against the Separation Fence at Na'ilin village - the fence that robs the village of most of its land in order to give it to the nearby settlement. A soldier aimed and shot the child with live ammunition at close range.


Hollow Time

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Israeli produce marketing company Otzar Ha'aretz (treasure of the earth) announced on Monday that it will not market produce grown by Arab farmers, and will from now on only sell only Jewish-grown products.

Economic apartheid, too.


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A video clip that dramatically portrays the meeting of Israeli solders and Palestinians at controversial West Bank security checkpoints. This clip is the second of a series taken from "Land of the Settlers", the acclaimed documentary developed by Chaim Yavin, Israel's premier news anchor.


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God bless Chaim Yavin. The truth is so powerful when one has the courage to speak it.
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I don't think Yavin's criticism of the wall was strident enough.

He is critical of the wall, not because it's a wall and a symbol of Zionist racism, but because it goes in the wrong direction.


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OH DEAR, what has happened to the knight on the white horse?

This week, many of Barack Obama's admirers were shocked. Up to now, it had been believed that the huge sums of money flowing into the coffers of his campaign came from anonymous citizens, each sending a check for 100 or 200 dollars.

Now, alas, it has been disclosed that a large part of those millions actually came from big donors - the very same huge corporations, their CEOs and lobbyists, who have corrupted the democratic process in previous contests. They spread their largesse generously and simultaneously among all the candidates from left to right, so as to be on the winning side whatever happens.


A Knight on a Gray Horse


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Israeli Soldiers Refuse To Serve In Palestine: Part 1(this is a vidio clip of a program from CBS...I'm sorry...)

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posted 11 August 2008 04:39 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Powerful forces have tried to erase the crime against the Palestinians from the world's public memory. But the Palestinian people have survived, and their resistance continues, with the sympathy of peoples around the world. The truth about the crime against the Palestinians cannot be silenced.

The Zionists misuse the memory of the holocaust to breed and justify new wars in the Middle East. This is a crime against the memory of my family and other Jewish victims under Hitler.

The Zionists act with strong support from the United States, which has its own criminal reasons to see the Palestinians defeated. The Zionists want their exclusively Jewish state, and they want it to expand and dominate the region. The United States, with Ottawa's support, wants the oil and other resources; it wants to control all of the Middle East. That's why they conduct war in Iraq and Afghanistan and are menacing Iran.

To be against the government of Israel is not anti-Semitic. We must stand up for justice and for humanity. We oppose the system of Zionism that oppresses one people — the Palestinians — and endangers another — the Israeli Jews — while condemning them to the hatred of the world.

If the crime against the Palestinians prevails, it would mean that Hitler's spirit had triumphed. To be true to the memory of the victims of the Jewish Holocaust and of all Hitler's victims, we must defend the Palestinians.

We must join their resistance struggle to win back their homeland. We can do this here in Canada.


The Siege of Gaza: Israel Uses Hitler’s Methods Against Palestinians

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May the name, the work, and the struggle of Mahmoud Darwish always inspire the people's movement for freedom from occupation, aggression, apartheid, and war:

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The West Bank city of Ramallah is expected to come to a standstill for the funeral of poet and author Mahmoud Darwish who has died at the age of 67.

Tens of thousands of Palestinians are due to attend commemorations for one of the most influential cultural figures in recent Arab history.

It is due to be the biggest funeral in the West Bank since that of Yasser Arafat in 2004.


More...

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ONE OF the wisest pronouncements I have heard in my life was that of an Egyptian general, a few days after Anwar Sadat's historic visit to Jerusalem.

We were the first Israelis to come to Cairo, and one of the things we were very curious about was: how did you manage to surprise us at the beginning of the October 1973 war?


The Anger, the Longing, the Hope


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I WAS shocked when I read the headline in Haaretz. It quoted Sari Nusseibeh as saying "There is no Room for Two", meaning two states between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan.

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posted 24 August 2008 08:08 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
A website with video clips featuring a bunch of Israeli peacenicks
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posted 26 August 2008 01:36 PM      Profile for M. Spector   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
West Bank settlement construction nearly doubled this year
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"Israel is erasing the Green Line through intensive construction intended to create territorial continuity between settlement blocs and isolated settlements in the heart of the West Bank, with this construction approaching Palestinian cities such as Bethlehem and Ramallah."

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posted 31 August 2008 06:57 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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"If he steals my cow, that is bad. If I steal his cow, that is good" - this moral rule was attributed by European racists to the Hottentots, an ancient tribe in Southern Africa.


Hottentot Morality

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posted 31 August 2008 08:43 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From The Devils' Hoof:

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WITH ALL due respect and friendship for Nusseibeh, I believe that this tactic of his is unwise. Very unwise.

In his eyes, and in the eyes of some intellectuals on both sides, there are only two possibilities: the "Two-State Solution" or the "One-State Solution". A Palestinian state alongside Israel or a bi-national State, where equality between all the citizens, Jews and Arabs, is assured.

That is a dangerous misconception.

The "One-State Solution" is an oxymoron, a contradiction in terms. The One-State idea is not a solution, but an anti-solution. It is a recipe for an ongoing bloody conflict. Not a dream, but a nightmare.

There is no chance at all that the Jewish public will agree, in this generation or the next, to live as a minority in a state dominated by an Arab majority. 99.99% of the Jewish population will fight against this tooth and nail.


Perhaps the Jewish public should leave the 19th century and look around.

When France and Germany, the two countries the most responsible for our current ideas about ethnic nationalism, can move toward accepting multiculturalism, what's keeping the self-professed "light unto nations" from doing so?


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posted 31 August 2008 09:13 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They've moved towards accepting multiculturalism? Are you sure you want to make that statement?
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posted 31 August 2008 09:31 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I've been over there. Yes they are moving in that direction, and no, there is not universal acceptance of the idea.

My own brother-in-law won't ride on public transport, for instance, because of what he calls "l'experience multiculturel," and my belle mere once did an about-face when we entered the Algerian section of the open air market in town, so I am somewhat familiar with reactions against immigrants in Europe.


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posted 31 August 2008 09:53 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Meron Benvenisti in an excellent article mentions the "success of the propaganda campaign known as 'negotiations with the Palestinians,' which convinces many that the status quo is temporary." There's indeed no better way to describe the ongoing talks between the two politicians living on borrowed time – Ehud Olmert and Mahmoud Abbas – than as a pastime orchestrated by the Bush administration. In the past, peace talks were supposed to lead to a peace agreement, which would in turn lead to peace; now, not even that little is assumed. What the negotiations are expected to yield is at best a "shelf agreement" to be implemented at some vague point in the future, or not. No one believes such an agreement can be reached, as agreed, by the end of this year, but even the shelf doesn't really care.


Occupation by Another Name


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posted 31 August 2008 02:44 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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When France and Germany, the two countries the most responsible for our current ideas about ethnic nationalism, can move toward accepting multiculturalism, what's keeping the self-professed "light unto nations" from doing so?


American politicians say the same sorts of things about the arab nations and Iran.

It also has to be said that Israel for all it pretends to be European(in much the same way that Lebanon does) it is not France or Germany.

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posted 31 August 2008 03:37 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So you're saying that the current majority in the Middle East's Only Democracy® are so stunted politically that ethnic cleansing is the best option they can come up with when faced with the possiblility of becoming a minority?
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posted 31 August 2008 04:11 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Originally posted by al-Qa'bong:
So you're saying that the current majority in the Middle East's Only Democracy® are so stunted politically that ethnic cleansing is the best option they can come up with when faced with the possiblility of becoming a minority?

Well, I don't think they'll be successful in ethnically clensing the Palestinians, but there will be a large amount of bloodshed before all is said and done. The Palistinians will win eventually, whether there will be a substantial Jewish population in Palestine after the conflict is over, is anyone's guess. I hope there will be.
According to Jeff Halper Israel's young people don't put much stock in the Zionist dream anymore so maybe the final push against Israel's establishment won't be as violent as I believe it will be.

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posted 31 August 2008 08:22 PM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Well, I don't think they'll be successful in ethnically clensing the Palestinians, but there will be a large amount of bloodshed before all is said and done.

That isn't what I asked. My question is more like, "Is this the best they can come up with; don't they have any better ideas?"


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posted 01 September 2008 06:58 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The Prisoners' children

Youtube doth rock!


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posted 01 September 2008 08:38 AM      Profile for al-Qa'bong   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I suppose walking away from the issue completely is safer than trying to dodge it.
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posted 01 September 2008 11:29 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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That isn't what I asked. My question is more like, "Is this the best they can come up with; don't they have any better ideas?"


It would appear so. But then again, we are outsiders looking at the Israeli political system from afar, so there may be all kinds of one staters in Israel that we know nothing about, since our view Israel is to often shaped by people in the U.S., Canada and Israel who are desperate to make a one state solution seem politically impossible.

Jeff Halper is not a Zionist and believes in one state(although he's wary of Bi national states.) and Cueball has said that he does not think Avnery is a zionist.

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AT THE funeral of Abie Nathan, I said to myself: the Israel-as-it-is takes its leave from the Israel-as-it-could-have-been.

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posted 07 September 2008 06:47 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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One man gives another man an improvised notebook of a child's drawings (A3-sized pages, stapled together).

Man No. 1: a schoolteacher, Mohammed Amira

Man No. 2: David Reeb


The place: The village of Na'alin



About a boy

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To rightwing fellow Israelis, Abie Nathan, who has died aged 81, was a figure of fun, or, worse, a traitor. Nathan did seem an unlikely warrior for peace in the Middle East, but he invariably had the last laugh. When, in 1968, he mooted the idea for an offshore pirate radio station that would spread regional goodwill, sceptics predicted that it would sink, metaphorically if not literally. Instead, the Voice of Peace blasted out pop, political commentaries and celebrity interviews for 21 years.

More on Mr. Nathan


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posted 11 September 2008 07:52 AM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
B'Tselem - 100 Palestinian Video Cameras (July 30, 2008)
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Palestinians whose registered address is in Gaza are now prohibited from living in the West Bank, regardless of how long ago they made the move eastwards. Thanks to Israel's flouting of the Oslo agreements, the process of updating Palestinians' addresses on the population registry has been indefinitely frozen, making criminals of everyone who falls foul of the rule. The effect has been to separate husbands from their wives and parents from their children, and to add yet another layer of hardship to the already gruelling circumstances in which the Palestinians live.

[URL=http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/12/israelandthepalestinians.middleeast
Read it and weep[/URL]

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Tony Blair's Sister-in-Law on Arrest of a Gaza Activist
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posted 13 September 2008 01:45 PM      Profile for CMOT Dibbler     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
2008 alternative memorial day- part 1(this series of videos is in Hebrew)
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Combatants for Peace - Israel/Palestine
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A SCOTTISH human rights activist has filmed the Israeli navy firing machine guns at unarmed Palestinian fishing boats in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of the Gaza Strip.

The footage, taken on September 6 by Andrew Muncie, who is from the Highlands, shows an Israeli gunboat engaging fishing boats while international observers hold their arms in the air and scream for them to stop firing.

No-one was injured in the incident, but Palestinian fishermen claim 14 colleagues have been murdered at sea by the Israeli navy since the onset of an economic blockade imposed after Hamas took control of the Gaza Strip in June 2007. Israel says patrolling these waters is a vital security measure to stop weapons being smuggled into Gaza.



Zionist racism goes to sea.

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AS AN ISRAELI, I am ashamed. An incumbent Prime Minister has been compelled to resign because of personal corruption. How awful!

As an Israeli, I am proud. An incumbent Prime Minister has been compelled to resign because of personal corruption. How wonderful!


Tzipi's Choice

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Settlers attack the Palestinian Village of Asira
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THE POLLS were wrong, as usual. And in a big way. As usual.

Instead of winning by a huge margin, as predicted until the very last moment by all the polls, she just squeaked through. Of the 72 thousand or so registered Kadima members, only 39,331 troubled themselves to go to the polls, and among these she defeated Shaul Mofaz by just 431 votes.


Fly, Tzipora, fly!


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Troops hurt in Jerusalem attack

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About a dozen soldiers have been wounded in an apparent attack in central Jerusalem, Israeli police say.

They say a man drove his car into the group at a busy intersection, before being shot and killed.

Police said the driver was a Palestinian and described the incident as a "terror attack".



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Seems the Israeli military murdered the 19-year-old for having a traffic accident. Nervous? Scared? Target practice?

Jerusalem crash 'not deliberate'

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Relatives of a Palestinian who was shot dead after his car ploughed into a group of Israelis at a bus stop have denied it was a deliberate attack.

Nineteen people, mostly soldiers, were treated for light or moderate wounds in the incident in central Jerusalem.

Off duty soldiers shot the 19-year-old driver, in what Israeli police have said was an attack.

"My son was murdered, they killed him. He did not carry out a terrorist attack" said the driver's father.

"This was a car accident. The car stopped after hitting a wall. Why did they kill him?" Mahmoud Mughrabi said at his home in Israeli-occupied East Jerusalem.


Of course, the family may just be lying in a selfish attempt to save their house from being blown up:

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Commenting on the latest incident, Defence Minister Ehud Barak said Israel must expedite the legal process leading to demolition of Palestinian attackers' homes.

"We need to take legal action in order to drastically expedite the process, so we can take action shortly after an attack happens and deter any future potential terrorists," he said.



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Back over in the United States, Joe Biden tries to avoid the Fourth Rail of US politics as is ritualistically required of US politicians because like don't you know that it's OMG anti-semitic if you even imply that Israel might actually be at fault for anything in the Middle East.
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Global/Canwest joins Barrick Gold, Branco and Rogers Communication in attempts to silence political critique through SLAPP lawsuits and other rough stuff. Here is something from BC's workingtv.com:

A look at the campaign in B.C. Supreme Court by Canwest Media, Canada's largest media conglomerate, to bully three Vancouver
activists who disagree with Canwest's pro-Israel media bias.

Adrienne Wong, from seriouslyfreespeech.ca explains it all on Youtube

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