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maestro
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posted 24 July 2005 07:10 PM
The immediate effect would be that Cuba could sell sugar to the US. This would make a huge difference to the Cuban economy. It would also mean US tourists could travel to Cuba, which would be a further influx of dollars. At least at first glance, it seems an end of the embargo would allow Cuba to pursue improvements in the standard of living for the citizens. If Cuba was a capitalist economy, that would not necessarily be the case (witness other Caribbean and Central American countries).
From: Vancouver | Registered: Jan 2005
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arborman
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posted 25 July 2005 08:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Scott Piatkowski: ... Cuba would suddenly become less desirable as a tourist destination.
quote: originally posted by CMOT Dibbler: HOw do you figure that?
It would be overrun with US tourists, in part because it is so close to Florida. At present, it's the only major Caribbean destination where it's possible to avoid the Disneyfication effect. Prices would also skyrocket with the influx of dollars and US tourists. All that said, it's effect on our travels is basically irrelevant. What is important is any effects on the Cuban people, and that I can't predict.
From: I'm a solipsist - isn't everyone? | Registered: Aug 2003
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Fidel
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posted 25 July 2005 08:21 PM
Perhaps GlaxoSmithKline would be allowed to sell Cuba's meningitis b vaccine in the States and save the lives of an estimated 200 to 300 American children each year.Cuban's could provide even more poor American students, and who cannot access mainly white medical colleges, with six years of free medical training in Cuba. Canada could use just a few more doctors, too. Perhaps the New York Yankees ball club would save a few thousand dollars in fines when they do business in Cuba as do a few dozen other American companies who already flout the dated cold war mentality of senators Helms and Burton by doing business in Cuba. What would happy of El Salvador or Nicragua or Guatemala ever received socialized medicine, freely accessable higher education and some basic infrastructure which the condoms, er contras and mercenaries bombed and torched in the 1970's and 80's ?. Perhaps there is a typical Washington reason for Cuba to remain isolated. Killing an idea costs money and votes, eventually. [ 26 July 2005: Message edited by: Fidel ]
From: Viva La Revolución | Registered: Apr 2004
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Scott Piatkowski
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posted 25 July 2005 08:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by CMOT Dibbler: HOw do you figure that?
It's the only warm place you can visit today without having to worry about a) being overrun by American tourists b) being mistaken for American tourists Nuff said.
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Fidel
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posted 26 July 2005 04:36 PM
Well, the EU has no trade embargo on Canada, and yet we(foreign based corporations in Canada) ship the bulk of Canada's natural wealth to the States. Our conservative politicians have always stated that trade in Canada is North-South more than it is east-west. The States should be a natural trading partner with Cuba as it is with Mexico, state of Puerto Rico, Domincan Republic and Haiti, the freest trading nation in the Caribbean, according to Washington. Canadian companies are doing business with Cuba along the lines of mining, import-exports to a degree and biotechnology.In the past, the Yanks have been known to divert oil tankers from the Middle East and Russia that were bound for Cuba. The oil tankers were typically offered US dollars over and above what the Cuban's could afford to pay. The same thing has happened with aid groups in the States wanting to ship humanitarian aid to Cuba. Things like insulin needles and certain drugs just aren't manufactured in Cuba, and the feds down there have made it a gauntlet of red tape and legal nightmare for church groups to deliver aid to Cuba. The blocking of humanitarian aid to Cuba and N. korea is illegal, says the UN. Multi-national corporations based in the US and around the world wield more influence with respect to who does business in Cuba. Those same corporations do business on a regular basis with Vietnam and China, still considered communist countries by Washington standards. The US trade embargo on Cuba has been vindictive, to say the least.
From: Viva La Revolución | Registered: Apr 2004
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Fidel
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posted 29 July 2005 03:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aristotleded24:
What about policies implemented in the late 19th to early 20th century that made it difficult for western farmers to buy farm equipment from the US where it would have been cheaper and forcing them to have to buy from Ontario?
How about the fact that Yanks can buy gasoline , and which originated in Canada, cheaper than you and I can ?. Why should prices for sheets of plywood and two-by-fours shoot up here when the Yanks go on a building spree ?. Why are we sending British Columbia's old growth trees to the States while they ship it back to us as arse wipe ?. Why does big oil handover more in oil royalties to socialist Norway, or Alaska, or even Saskatchewan than our Ralph "what's under the table?" Klein has the business savvy to demand for our own oil, which is less expensive to drill for ?. And why did socialist Norway become a net creditor nation well before Alberta cleaned out its Heritage fund to make Ralph Klein look as if he were actually fit to manage a lemonade stand ?. How come Canadian's depend on buying Swedish and American chainsaws when we have way more lumber than either of them ?. Why are we in this handbasket, and where are we going under weak liberal and conservative rule in this corporate colony, a vast repository of natural wealth being used up by foreign-based multinationals ?. The unemployed, underemployed and working poor in Canada pay a heavy price when farmers and $40 thousand dollar a year wannabe capitalists in Canada vote for weak and ineffective governments in this Puerto Rico du Nord. [ 29 July 2005: Message edited by: Fidel ]
From: Viva La Revolución | Registered: Apr 2004
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