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Topic: Poll Shows Most Palestinians Favor Violence Over Talks
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Young Pinhas
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posted 25 March 2008 04:18 PM
linkage quote: RAMALLAH, West Bank — A new poll shows that an overwhelming majority of Palestinians support the attack this month on a Jewish seminary in Jerusalem that killed eight young men, most of them teenagers, an indication of the alarming level of Israeli-Palestinian tension in recent weeks.The survey also shows unprecedented support for the shooting of rockets on Israeli towns from the Gaza Strip and for the end of the peace negotiations between Palestinian and Israeli leaders. The pollster, Khalil Shikaki, said he was shocked because the survey, taken last week, showed greater support for violence than any other he had conducted over the past 15 years in the Palestinian areas. Never before, he said, had a majority favored an end to negotiations or the shooting of rockets at Israel. “There is real reason to be concerned,” Mr. Shikaki said in an interview at his West Bank office. His Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, which conducts a survey every three months, is widely viewed as among the few independent and reliable gauges of Palestinian public opinion.
What to do about Gaza: The realistic scenario
quote: What is needed, instead, is an option based on reality, not wishful thinking: to push Hamas back. Israel's interest is to minimize attacks on its soil and citizens while limiting the cost of the response needed to achieve that goal. This can best be done by combining a more active version of current policy and the creation of a security zone in the northern Gaza Strip to push Hamas and its allies out of range. Such a zone could be made relatively secure because it would be on a narrow front, with flanks protected by the sea on the north and Israel proper on the south and east, with Israel controlling the airspace. This would be an interim policy until anti-rocket defenses could be implemented, in perhaps three years.
I'd have to agree. Building a security zone in northern Gaza would greatly reduce rocket attacks. Israel should implement this as soon as possible to help protect it's civilians.
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M. Spector
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posted 25 March 2008 04:52 PM
Do you suppose the majority of Israeli public opinion doesn’t support that country’s murderous air strikes on Gaza that have killed hundreds of civilians? They do? So why is it so shocking that most Gazans favour retaliation?As for that so-called “realistic scenario” for dealing with Gaza – i.e.: quote: This can best be done by combining a more active version of current policy and the creation of a security zone in the northern Gaza Strip to push Hamas and its allies out of range. Such a zone could be made relatively secure because it would be on a narrow front, with flanks protected by the sea on the north and Israel proper on the south and east, with Israel controlling the airspace.
A “more active” version of current policy? That would be a euphemism for a Bush-like “surge” of even more deadly attacks against Gaza.And this “security zone” would of course not be carved out of Israeli territory, but out of Gaza territory. It would involve forcibly depopulating a large area of Gaza, which in international law is a crime against humanity. This is a plan that has your blessing? Not a very auspicious start to your babble career, pal.
From: One millihelen: The amount of beauty required to launch one ship. | Registered: Feb 2005
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Young Pinhas
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posted 26 March 2008 03:44 AM
quote: Do you suppose the majority of Israeli public opinion doesn’t support that country’s murderous air strikes on Gaza that have killed hundreds of civilians? They do? So why is it so shocking that most Gazans favour retaliation?
The article states that the majority of palestinians support entering a school and shooting it's students, rocket attacks and the end of peace negotiations between the leaders of both peoples. quote: And this “security zone” would of course not be carved out of Israeli territory, but out of Gaza territory. It would involve forcibly depopulating a large area of Gaza, which in international law is a crime against humanity. This is a plan that has your blessing?
The 'temporary area' would be carved out of Gaza because the rockets are not being launched from Israel. The area does not have to be a large one. quote: Not a very auspicious start to your babble career, pal.
I'd ask you to please not refer to me as 'pal', 'buddy' and/or 'chief'. Thanks
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oldgoat
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posted 26 March 2008 09:37 AM
quote: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Young Pinhas:I'd ask you to please not refer to me as 'pal', 'buddy' and/or 'chief'. Thanks -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I definitely had a couple of other words in mind.
I'm pretty sure what LTJ meant was something like "buster", or "amigo". But you never know. I've always said about LTJ, is that he's far too subtle and nuanced in his comments about other babblers. Maybe "snookums", but those advocating major escalations in occupying other's land and killing them, generally don't last long enough around here to graduate to that level of intimacy there, compadre.
From: The 10th circle | Registered: Jul 2001
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kropotkin1951
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posted 26 March 2008 10:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by Young Pinhas:
Thank you, KenS. Obviously, to have a healthy discussion, it's good to have opposing views. Wheteher you care or not, your actions have convinced me to stick around here a bit longer.
Fortunately on this board we seldom debate the merits of war crimes by any countries government. Your suggestion is obnoxious and reeks of racism. You seem to be hung up on a school being attacked. Are you in favour of the bombing of Taliban complexes where they teach Islamic fundamentalism? If you are then why is it wrong to bomb Jewish fundamentalist schools that teach that god chose them as its special people in preference to Palestians? I for one would like to see both sides agree to an immediate cease fire without conditions and then begin to talk about a permnanent peace. I am appalled at your suggestion that more Palestian land should be stolen. Peace will never come from beating people into the ground until they say Uncle Sam.
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