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aka Mycroft
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posted 03 May 2007 04:34 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

I'd vote for the Solidarity party if I were in Scotland but this ad is bloody brilliant nevertheless.


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aka Mycroft
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posted 03 May 2007 04:47 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 

This one's brilliant too.

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Boarsbreath
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posted 03 May 2007 08:06 PM      Profile for Boarsbreath   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Man. Nothing's as brilliant as that.
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Steppenwolf Allende
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posted 03 May 2007 10:23 PM      Profile for Steppenwolf Allende     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Excellent! Both are informative and entertaining (that lady sure bakes a lot).

The only thing they come up short on is going only as far as taxing the rich.

The Socialist Party in neighboring England talks more about democratizing the economy via investing in worker-run businesses, co-ops, community economic development, etc.--all the Historic economic fundamentals of the socialist movement going back hundreds of years.


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Ken Burch
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posted 04 May 2007 04:56 AM      Profile for Ken Burch     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Unfortunately, it's looking as though the SSP is going to be wiped out, with former SSP leader Tommy Sheridan's rival Solidarity movement taking most of their vote(Sheridan lost his list seat as well, which the bastard deserved for destroying the left's chances by doing the split.)
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ceti
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posted 04 May 2007 05:43 AM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, it's looking bad. SNP gobbled up 15 more seats at the expense of others, including the Socialists, Greens, and Solidarity who lost all but one seat. Labour only lost five seats, and they are still the largest party.

In fact, the election turned around in the last week, so Blair should actually be happy with these results.

But it is a missed opportunity -- even in MMP, splitting of the left vote is extremely costly.


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posted 04 May 2007 06:20 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That second one, about public transit, is excellent! I posted it on my blog, which I haven't posted to in over a month. Thanks for the inspiration, Mycroft!
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Connolly
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posted 04 May 2007 09:33 AM      Profile for Connolly     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by ceti:
Yeah, it's looking bad. SNP gobbled up 15 more seats at the expense of others, including the Socialists, Greens, and Solidarity who lost all but one seat. [...]
But it is a missed opportunity -- even in MMP, splitting of the left vote is extremely costly.

It looks like the SSP and Solidarity have both been shut out of the Scottish parliament this time. Pretty depressing result, with even the BNP beating the SSP vote.

I suspect a lot of past SSP voters were put off by all the infighting and scandal on the far left and voted SNP instead. Even the Greens went down in seats though, so it may be that a lot of people with left-nationalist politics voted tactically around the issue of independance. In addition, it didn't help that the ballots were confusing, with options to vote for the "Scottish Socialist Party," or the "Scottish Socialist LABOUR party" (Arthur Scargill's group, who actually got quite a few votes despite being largely inactive in Scotland).

Anyhow, I was active in the SSP and it's precursor the Scottish Socialist Alliance while living over there back in the 90s, and I really hope the Scottish left can get itself together again. The SSP was a real source of inspiration for a lot of people, so it's been really really depressing to watch it unravel over the last year or so.


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aka Mycroft
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posted 04 May 2007 09:56 AM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Steppenwolf Allende:
Excellent! Both are informative and entertaining (that lady sure bakes a lot).

The only thing they come up short on is going only as far as taxing the rich.

The Socialist Party in neighboring England talks more about democratizing the economy via investing in worker-run businesses, co-ops, community economic development, etc.--all the Historic economic fundamentals of the socialist movement going back hundreds of years.



Yes, my sympathies are actually with the Socialist Party in England and Solidarity in Scotland but I still love the SSP ads - miles ahead of anything the NDP does either programmatically or promotionally.


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ceti
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posted 04 May 2007 11:32 AM      Profile for ceti     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Latest news is that SNP tops Labour by one seat. It'll be interesting what they do as their natural allies (and rivals) have been almost wiped out.
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Erik Redburn
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posted 04 May 2007 01:07 PM      Profile for Erik Redburn     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Interesting too how they might effect Labour in general elections, particularly their leftwing.
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janfromthebruce
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posted 07 May 2007 05:05 AM      Profile for janfromthebruce     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Did anybody send these to the provincial and federal Ndp? Just checking. They were brilliant.
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posted 07 May 2007 12:57 PM      Profile for Doug   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by janfromthebruce:
Did anybody send these to the provincial and federal Ndp? Just checking. They were brilliant.

But not too terribly relevant to a Canadian campaign where the longest an ad is going to be is 60 seconds.


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aka Mycroft
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posted 07 May 2007 08:03 PM      Profile for aka Mycroft     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Doug:

But not too terribly relevant to a Canadian campaign where the longest an ad is going to be is 60 seconds.


Ads for the Canadian campaign on YouTube can be much longer


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