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posted 02 December 2003 12:08 PM      Profile for Shenanigans   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm just curious to see what the thoughts are of the thirdwave.

There seems to be a lot of fear and hostility in the feminism climate towards younger feminists with different ideals. However moreso it seems that the thirdwave has already been labelled by some feminists as the anti-feminism and undoing all the previous work done.

The weird thing is, that since the thirdwave is really in it's infancy, there is no one direction it's heading in as of yet. Although I do think that some of it's challenges will be:

Dealing with the backlash and defending rights and freedoms won for North American women. ie. Anti-abortion movements, father's rights.

Starting (with the help of the Internet) to think and act more globally on women's issues.

Expanding the ideals of what is a women's issue (ie AIDS, War, global economics).

How to survive (finacially) in a time where gov'ts and organisations are (even!!!) less willing to give donations to "feminist" organisations, without losing the message.

Tackling racism, homophobia, classism, ableism WITHIN feminism. (which is going to be HARD-this needs to be tackled within the entire left wing)

Tackling the above issues as feminists.

Bringing feminism to more women, not just in women's centres, shelters or universities, but to rural areas, inner city communities. Making it applicable for the many wonderful ways we show our strength and not just at marches, with policies and shows.

Ooops, forgot something.

And sexuality, female self expression (for lack of a better term). For many feminists, wearing lipstick and heels would be admitting defeat. For others while they understand the patriarchal roots, still chose to engage in wearing lipstick, heels (guilty!). There seems to be a chasm opening up here.

I think also the labels of "good feminist" as opposed to "bad feminist", "less committed feminist", "safe feminist". Am I a bad feminist because I'm married, wear heels, wear lipstick. Despite the fact that the majority of my time is donated to feminist causes at a grassroots and policy level?

Any thoughts on what the thirdwave means to you?

[ 02 December 2003: Message edited by: Shenanigans ]

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Lima Bean
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posted 02 December 2003 02:16 PM      Profile for Lima Bean   Author's Homepage        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I guess maybe this thread isn't getting much of a response because we've had a couple similar discussions just recently?

I'll take the bait, though. It's always nice to have a couple active feminism threads going at a time.


Since graduating university, I haven't done a lot of reading on feminist theory or the like. I have, though, encountered more 'real life' feminist education just being an adult woman in the workworld and living in a vibrant, interesting city where there's always lots going on.

I'm not totally sure I even know what 'third-wave' refers to. I always assume that the term is used to describe the 'movement' of younger women taking more active ownership of society's expectations for them. Things like dressing way over the top sexy-cute in order to be ironic about sexiness and femininity, or practicing cat-calling right back at lewd jerks in the street, maybe. I also tend to chunk groups like the radical cheerleaders, and campus pro-choice and anti-violence groups etc. into the third-wave.

Is this the kind of thing you're thinking of, Shenanigans?

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audra trower williams
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posted 02 December 2003 04:49 PM      Profile for audra trower williams   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There was a really good thread about this, but when I tried to move it here, out of the 'activism' folder, it got deleted. I'm so sorry.
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