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majorvictory
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posted 04 August 2003 10:23 PM      Profile for majorvictory     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Community Head: France No More Antisemitic Than U.S.

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By MARC PERELMAN
FORWARD STAFF
The message is crystal-clear.

Point one: French society is not more antisemitic than American society. Yes, there is anti-Jewish violence in France, but nearly all of it comes from socially estranged Arab youths, inflamed by the intifada. And in France, unlike America, no Jews have been killed or seriously wounded.

Point two: American Jewish groups should mind their own business and stop casting doubts on the ability of French Jewish leaders to be forceful and efficient advocates for Jews and for Israel.

Roger Cukierman, the senior leader of the French Jewish community, is a little irritated these days. He hears some of his American counterparts complaining that the communal umbrella group he has chaired since May 2001, the Representative Council of Jewish Institutions in France, or CRIF, is not vehement enough when it comes to taking on the French authorities over antisemitism and Israel.

The criticism is ironic, Cukierman told the Forward in a wide-ranging briefing in New York last week. "When people criticize me in France, it is because I am doing too much, not because I do too little, as some here are suggesting," he said. "American Jewish organizations come to France and some interfere, and I don't think they should."

"If they want to help, they should go through us," he said.



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pity sing
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posted 04 August 2003 10:31 PM      Profile for pity sing        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
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Michelle
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posted 04 August 2003 10:39 PM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Keep it on topic, pity sing.
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lagatta
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posted 04 August 2003 11:33 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
J'en ai MARRE du racisme antifrancophone de pity sing. Le racisme n'est pas acceptable sur babble!
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lagatta
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posted 04 August 2003 11:52 PM      Profile for lagatta     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Just noticed - why on earth is this topic in "The Middle East" - it is about anti-semitism in France and the USA.
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pity sing
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posted 05 August 2003 12:05 AM      Profile for pity sing        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
racism? Lagatta: can you translate your comments?

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Michelle
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posted 05 August 2003 08:08 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Don't play innocent, pity sing. I think you know exactly what the problem is. If you want to make rude, stereotypical comments about French people, do it on some other board.
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Michelle
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posted 05 August 2003 08:24 AM      Profile for Michelle   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
And actually, lagatta is right. Just because it's about anti-Semitism doesn't mean it belongs in the Middle East forum. This is about anti-Semitism in France. I think I'll put this in the "rest of the world" forum.
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skdadl
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posted 05 August 2003 08:58 AM      Profile for skdadl     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
People might be interested in the related discussion on this thread.

See especially the long excerpt from an article by Tony Judt (scroll down to my last post), in which he also compares anti-Semitism in France with anti-Semitic incidents in the U.S., using mainly figures compiled by the U.S. Anti-Defamation League (who have been leading critics of France in the U.S.).

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